Quote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 07:03:01 PMif nothing else, this thread is evidence that most of the benefits pc players spew off is hype and bullshit. so i'm happy about that.to be FAIR, you and i are in a minority of people who just don't care about things like graphics or any superfluous "advantage" that a gaming pc has to offerlol fags
if nothing else, this thread is evidence that most of the benefits pc players spew off is hype and bullshit. so i'm happy about that.
to illustrate what i'm talking about with long run price savings i'll compare my steam and xbox one collection.i've got about 40 games on my xbox one and 116 on steam. about a third of my xbox one games were given to me for free so for to make things simple i'll say 30 of those 40 games i paid for. over the few years i've owned my xbox one i've paid about 1,800 USD for games and we're not counting any of the DLC or XBL i've bought over those years either. during the entire time i've owned my pc i've probably paid about 500 USD for 116 games which has saved about 1,300 USD in comparison.
yeah it was totally necessary to call her a different name
yeah but those things aren't worth caring about
Quote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 07:07:32 PMyeah but those things aren't worth caring aboutexactlywe're talking about people who can't even comprehend why someone would think this way thoughit's ultimately their loss—we can be satisfied with basically anything; they can only be satisfied if their fastidious demands are met
Quote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:14:01 PMQuote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 07:07:32 PMyeah but those things aren't worth caring aboutexactlywe're talking about people who can't even comprehend why someone would think this way thoughit's ultimately their loss—we can be satisfied with basically anything; they can only be satisfied if their fastidious demands are metdon't fall off that high horseyou can't even comprehend how high it is
Quote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:15:39 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:14:01 PMQuote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 07:07:32 PMyeah but those things aren't worth caring aboutexactlywe're talking about people who can't even comprehend why someone would think this way thoughit's ultimately their loss—we can be satisfied with basically anything; they can only be satisfied if their fastidious demands are metdon't fall off that high horseyou can't even comprehend how high it isthe irony of a pc gamer telling me this
Quote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:16:57 PMQuote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:15:39 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:14:01 PMQuote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 07:07:32 PMyeah but those things aren't worth caring aboutexactlywe're talking about people who can't even comprehend why someone would think this way thoughit's ultimately their loss—we can be satisfied with basically anything; they can only be satisfied if their fastidious demands are metdon't fall off that high horseyou can't even comprehend how high it isthe irony of a pc gamer telling me thisbut i'm on my PS3 right now
Quote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:20:58 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:16:57 PMQuote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:15:39 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:14:01 PMQuote from: Prehistoric on July 18, 2017, 07:07:32 PMyeah but those things aren't worth caring aboutexactlywe're talking about people who can't even comprehend why someone would think this way thoughit's ultimately their loss—we can be satisfied with basically anything; they can only be satisfied if their fastidious demands are metdon't fall off that high horseyou can't even comprehend how high it isthe irony of a pc gamer telling me thisbut i'm on my PS3 right now😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Quote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 07:06:10 PMto illustrate what i'm talking about with long run price savings i'll compare my steam and xbox one collection.i've got about 40 games on my xbox one and 116 on steam. about a third of my xbox one games were given to me for free so for to make things simple i'll say 30 of those 40 games i paid for. over the few years i've owned my xbox one i've paid about 1,800 USD for games and we're not counting any of the DLC or XBL i've bought over those years either. during the entire time i've owned my pc i've probably paid about 500 USD for 116 games which has saved about 1,300 USD in comparison.that's why you don't buy games new you silly fuckwhy are you buying 30 brand new games over the course of "a few years"
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Quote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:08:21 PMQuote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 07:06:10 PMto illustrate what i'm talking about with long run price savings i'll compare my steam and xbox one collection.i've got about 40 games on my xbox one and 116 on steam. about a third of my xbox one games were given to me for free so for to make things simple i'll say 30 of those 40 games i paid for. over the few years i've owned my xbox one i've paid about 1,800 USD for games and we're not counting any of the DLC or XBL i've bought over those years either. during the entire time i've owned my pc i've probably paid about 500 USD for 116 games which has saved about 1,300 USD in comparison.that's why you don't buy games new you silly fuckwhy are you buying 30 brand new games over the course of "a few years"i have the income to do that?
Quote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 07:23:24 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:08:21 PMQuote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 07:06:10 PMto illustrate what i'm talking about with long run price savings i'll compare my steam and xbox one collection.i've got about 40 games on my xbox one and 116 on steam. about a third of my xbox one games were given to me for free so for to make things simple i'll say 30 of those 40 games i paid for. over the few years i've owned my xbox one i've paid about 1,800 USD for games and we're not counting any of the DLC or XBL i've bought over those years either. during the entire time i've owned my pc i've probably paid about 500 USD for 116 games which has saved about 1,300 USD in comparison.that's why you don't buy games new you silly fuckwhy are you buying 30 brand new games over the course of "a few years"i have the income to do that?>willingly spending more money than you need to play a game on consolebut why
why not play it now i have the means to? if i don't have to wait 6 months for something to go down to 40 i won't. buying a new game is a non issue for me. Not sure why you're trying to start something over me supporting developers and publishers via legal means.
buying second hand does nothing for devs and publishers and is pretty much no different than a pirated copy for them.
Quote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 07:28:40 PMwhy not play it now i have the means to? if i don't have to wait 6 months for something to go down to 40 i won't. buying a new game is a non issue for me. Not sure why you're trying to start something over me supporting developers and publishers via legal means.if that was your original stated purpose for buying games new, then i would've respected thatbut in general, it's not hard to find used games cheaper than retail price less than a month within any given game's release
Quote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 07:28:40 PMbuying second hand does nothing for devs and publishers and is pretty much no different than a pirated copy for them.one copy of one game only needs to be paid for oncethe unauthorized reproduction of digital copies of games is in no way comparable to reselling one already-paid-for copy that hasn't been reproduced in any way, but cute attempt at a "gotcha"
due to them not having to take up physical shelf space
used games don't support the developer though as the only one who makes money from a used sale is the retailer.
not having to take up physical shelf space
you might even call it a triple win since devs and publishers actually get more money from a new pc sale than they do a console one.
you didn't pay the devs for their work though so it's really no different in their eyes. the retailer instead got to double dip on the same copy with the devs and publishers seeing nothing from it.
post proofs
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/18j3z1b9en48ajpg.jpgthis is the anatomy of a $60 retail purchase. Valve takes 30% of a sold game on steam which is slightly higher than your average physical retailer. however when you remove the cost of distribution, console platform royalties, and return (unsold inventory) that goes back tot he publisher/dev instead which grants them $42 of a $60 purchase instead of $27.
this is a negative
any game that's actually worth playing
yeah but what if making more money is a negative
Quote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:41:54 PMthis is a negativeNot for them making profits it's notthus, not a negativeyou only say it is because you like physical copies. What you prefer is subjective. What the developer gains via money and revenue is objective
Quote from: Luciana on July 18, 2017, 07:52:43 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 18, 2017, 07:41:54 PMthis is a negativeNot for them making profits it's notthus, not a negativeyou only say it is because you like physical copies. What you prefer is subjective. What the developer gains via money and revenue is objectiveand as it turns out, the only video games worth playing on this entire planet are the ones that are not available on steam
Quote from: LC on July 18, 2017, 07:47:31 PMhttps://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/18j3z1b9en48ajpg.jpgthis is the anatomy of a $60 retail purchase. Valve takes 30% of a sold game on steam which is slightly higher than your average physical retailer. however when you remove the cost of distribution, console platform royalties, and return (unsold inventory) that goes back tot he publisher/dev instead which grants them $42 of a $60 purchase instead of $27.greatandi'm sure you realizethat this doesn't apply for games that are not available on steame.g.any game that's actually worth playing