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In Bungie era, humans are descendent of forunners right?


 
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They were supposed to in the narrative but the terminals (which were actually in Halo 3) directly contradicted and eventually ret-con'd that fact.


 
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They hold the requirements for the mantle


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They were supposed to in the narrative but the terminals (which were actually in Halo 3) directly contradicted and eventually ret-con'd that fact.

So basically the forunners that were mentioned in Halo 3 were never human to begin with.


 
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So basically the forunners that were mentioned in Halo 3 were never human to begin with.

No, they never were.


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They hold the requirements for the mantle

Just because the humans hold the mantel doesn't make them forunners, in fact the only reason why the humans were able to activate the halos was because of the librarian planting forunner imprints on humans.


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So basically the forunners that were mentioned in Halo 3 were never human to begin with.

No, they never were.

Alright, that explains it then, thanks.


 
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They hold the requirements for the mantle

Just because the humans hold the mantel doesn't make them forunners, in fact the only reason why the humans were able to activate the halos was because of the librarian planting forunner imprints on humans.
Humans are reclaimers. Why do you think this?

What do you think the Librarian and the Forunners wanted for them?


343 a shit, right?


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No. I think the issue arises with all the dialog that 343GS says during the original trilogy that implies that. What people seem to forget is that even in CE he's clearly insane.


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They hold the requirements for the mantle

Just because the humans hold the mantel doesn't make them forunners, in fact the only reason why the humans were able to activate the halos was because of the librarian planting forunner imprints on humans.
Humans are reclaimers. Why do you think this?

What do you think the Librarian and the Forunners wanted for them?

The humans were called reclaimers because of the forunner imprints they hold, hence the name "reclaimer". Did you really think that the forunners wanted humans to activate halo? They only cared about stoping the flood, why do you think they didn't think about letting humans help them because lets face it. In the forunner vs human war, the librarian wasn't sure what was going on, the rest of the forunners saw it as an attack, they didn't know that the humans were trying to stop the flood because the forunners didn't encounter them until now. The forunners didn't care about the humans but the librarian realize that the humans are innocent, so she planted a seed on the human DNA (forunner genes) for her plan (i forgot what the plan was). "You are a combination, of a thousands life time of planning" - Librarian

And what do you mean "343 a shit", guilty spark or the studio?
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No. I think the issue arises with all the dialog that 343GS says during the original trilogy that implies that. What people seem to forget is that even in CE he's clearly insane.
He says that in CE because Bungie originally planned to make Humans and Forerunners the same species. They scrapped it after CE.

Now 343GS' dialogue can be put down as him meaning that Humanity were chosen by the Forerunners to take their place as the keepers of the Mantle.


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1. I don't know why you are calling 343 guilty spark "shit" when he was clearly doing his job before he was a rampant AI

2. 343 studios aren't bad, they're trying there very best to listen to the fans


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1. I don't know why you are calling 343 guilty spark "shit" when he was clearly doing his job before he was a rampant AI

2. 343 studios aren't bad, they're trying there very best to listen to the fans
343GS has been rampant ever since you first see him.


 
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1. I don't know why you are calling 343 guilty spark "shit" when he was clearly doing his job before he was a rampant AI

2. 343 studios aren't bad, they're trying there very best to listen to the fans
343 cant tell stories



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1. I don't know why you are calling 343 guilty spark "shit" when he was clearly doing his job before he was a rampant AI

2. 343 studios aren't bad, they're trying there very best to listen to the fans
343GS has been rampant ever since you first see him.

Before Halo CE he wasn't, as time goes in for who knows how many years he started to get rampant (this is when he was in installation 04), after Halo CE yes he was clearly rampant.
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In Bungie's original vision Humans were Forerunners. Like in Halo 1 and 2

But that changed by Halo 3


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1. I don't know why you are calling 343 guilty spark "shit" when he was clearly doing his job before he was a rampant AI

2. 343 studios aren't bad, they're trying there very best to listen to the fans
343GS has been rampant ever since you first see him.

Before Halo CE he wasn't, as time goes in for who knows how many years he started to get rampant (this is when he was in installation 04), after Halo CE yes he was clearly rampant.
He was rampant before CE. He didn't suddenly become rampant over the course of 3 days


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1. I don't know why you are calling 343 guilty spark "shit" when he was clearly doing his job before he was a rampant AI

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1. They were fine until Brian Reed came in <_<

2. Joseph Staten is now working for Microsoft and is writing a novel called "Shadow of Intent" (I'm sure he's cooperation with 343i)


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1. I don't know why you are calling 343 guilty spark "shit" when he was clearly doing his job before he was a rampant AI

2. 343 studios aren't bad, they're trying there very best to listen to the fans
343GS has been rampant ever since you first see him.

Before Halo CE he wasn't, as time goes in for who knows how many years he started to get rampant (this is when he was in installation 04), after Halo CE yes he was clearly rampant.
He was rampant before CE. He didn't suddenly become rampant over the course of 3 days

So when did he start to turn rampant?


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1. I don't know why you are calling 343 guilty spark "shit" when he was clearly doing his job before he was a rampant AI

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343GS has been rampant ever since you first see him.

Before Halo CE he wasn't, as time goes in for who knows how many years he started to get rampant (this is when he was in installation 04), after Halo CE yes he was clearly rampant.
He was rampant before CE. He didn't suddenly become rampant over the course of 3 days

So when did he start to turn rampant?
Before CE.
What do you want, the exact second of the exact day?

Rampancy isn't just like a switch, you know.

He started to descend into rampancy before the events of CE. That's it.


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1. I don't know why you are calling 343 guilty spark "shit" when he was clearly doing his job before he was a rampant AI

2. 343 studios aren't bad, they're trying there very best to listen to the fans
343GS has been rampant ever since you first see him.

Before Halo CE he wasn't, as time goes in for who knows how many years he started to get rampant (this is when he was in installation 04), after Halo CE yes he was clearly rampant.
He was rampant before CE. He didn't suddenly become rampant over the course of 3 days

So when did he start to turn rampant?
Before CE.
What do you want, the exact second of the exact day?

Rampancy isn't just like a switch, you know.

He started to descend into rampancy before the events of CE. That's it.

When Chakases memory was planted on 343 guilty spark.

Actually never mind, this is a stupid question I had to ask.
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It was a concept that was considered for Halo CE but never stated as the intention. By Halo 3, they were separate species.

The Forerunner books fleshed out Forerunners and Humans as two separate species created by the Precursors, and have hints that both are descended from "Inheritors" (Of the mantle).

Make of that what you will.


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Originally yes, going by Halo CE.

Thankfully that was retcon'd out.


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It was a concept that was considered for Halo CE but never stated as the intention.
https://twitter.com/dr_abominable/status/466142437128159232


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Why did Bungie change their minds about the humans being Forunners after CE?