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I see you are just in time to throw mud on Halo and shine Big Boss's muddy combat boots.

If that's how you wanna take it, sure.


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I see you are just in time to throw mud on Halo and shine Big Boss's muddy combat boots.

If that's how you wanna take it, sure.
because it pretty much is


 
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because it pretty much is

I don't see how. Besides, even if it was, so what?

I just want Verb to play Metal Gear. It will be interesting to see what he thinks of the game.


 
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wait a sec why were you even on bungie.net if you didnt like halo

legit question not trying to be an ass
Came for the community, stayed for the community.


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this sucks this sucks this sucks this sucks this sucks

play this franchise instead because i poke my bumhole to it


 
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this sucks this sucks this sucks this sucks this sucks

It's true, though.

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play this franchise instead because i poke my bumhole to it

No. I want him to play a good game instead of wasting his time with CE.
Last Edit: September 28, 2015, 09:46:27 PM by Eliab


 
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Not. I want him to play a good game instead of wasting his time with CE.

Lovely thing about opinions is that one is not always right.

Let's not argue over it.


 
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Lovely thing about opinions is that one is not always right.

Let's not argue over it.

Exactly. Thank you.

I didn't even insinuate that "MGS>Halo" in my OP. People just got butthurt that I said Halo sucks.


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It's true, though.
before or after you muted me on bungie because i said prefect arour sucked?
the sequels only get better (excluding reach). and yes that includes 3.
2 has the best campaign in the original trilogy
3 is weaker than 2, but not as weak as ce
odst is fantastic
reacharound can fuck off
halo 4 is great
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Not. I want him to play a good game instead of wasting his time with CE.
he's already finished it


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Lovely thing about opinions is that one is not always right.

Let's not argue over it.

Exactly. Thank you.

I didn't even insinuate that "MGS>Halo" in my OP. People just got butthurt that I said Halo sucks.
I mean, it would be pretty annoying if I came to your MGS thread and said Metal Gear Solid was an okay game and everything else after it went downhill after it and began to put Halo on a pedestal as if it were the Super Kami Pope Prime....Guru.
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before or after you muted me on bungie because i said prefect arour sucked?

I've muted you for far less than that in the past. Back when muting was a viable solution to the problem.

Also, let's not pretend I haven't changed since B.net.

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odst is fantastic

The only one I can't verify. From what I've heard it's the most... thematic(?) game in the series.

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halo 4 is great

In what sense? Because the story was short and poorly executed, even with a substantial grasp of the extended universe. There were perhaps 3 or 4 scenes where I felt something.

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he's already finished it

Yeah.
Last Edit: September 28, 2015, 09:55:41 PM by Eliab


 
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I mean, it would be pretty annoying if I came to your MGS thread and said Metal Gear Solid was an okay game and everything else after it went downhill after it

Well, that's your prerogative. And that's an even less apt comparison than you may think, considering my opinion aligns closely with Verbatim's, and isn't that out-of-place.

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and began to put Halo on a pedestal as if it were the Super Kami Pope Prime....Guru.

Well at that point I wouldn't take you seriously, anyways.


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I mean, it would be pretty annoying if I came to your MGS thread and said Metal Gear Solid was an okay game and everything else after it went downhill after it

Well, that's your prerogative. And that's an even less apt comparison than you may think, considering my opinion aligns closely with Verbatim's, and isn't that out-of-place.

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and began to put Halo on a pedestal as if it were the Super Kami Pope Prime....Guru.

Well at that point I wouldn't take you seriously, anyways.
Except that Verbatim's rating is completely right by today's standards.

But you just implied that in this thread. You just told Verb to not give the next Halos a try because you believe they are worse, which Verb doesn't know because he has never really given the campaigns a chance before and then told him to try the "better game".


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Also, let's not pretend I haven't changed since B.net.
You're more emo and like MGS now?

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In what sense? Because the story was short and poorly executed, even with a substantial grasp of the extended universe. There was perhaps 3 or 4 scenes where I felt something.
Character development
An actual plot that makes sense
Chief isn't a meme-tier one line space dude
EU acknowledgement ("b-but i have to read books" fuck off, no you don't. pay attention to the game you're playing)
(that wasn't aimed at you)


 
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Except that Verbatim's rating is completely right by today's standards.

I don't understand what this means.

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But you just implied that in this thread.

Implied what?

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You just told Verb to not give the next Halos a try because you believe they are worse, which Verb doesn't know because he has never really given the campaigns a chance before and then told him to try the "better game".

It's not like Verb is exactly quiet about his dislike of the Halo games. If he didn't like CE, chances are, he won't like the future games.

And knowing Verb's stance on expectations, I put them in a spoiler tag. If he didn't want to set expectations for himself, he wouldn't have read them.


 
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You're more emo and like MGS now?

Lol, pretty much.

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Character development
An actual plot that makes sense

As a stand-alone game, Halo 4 fails by those standards. Only when comparing it to it's predecessors does it become "good."

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EU acknowledgement ("b-but i have to read books" fuck off, no you don't. pay attention to the game you're playing)

Let's be honest, though. If you didn't know why the Didact hated humanity or who he even was, you were pretty lost and he's a pretty shallow villain.

To deny that is just ridiculous.


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It's not like Verb is exactly quiet about his dislike of the Halo games. If he didn't like CE, chances are, he won't like the future games.
Because it's an FPS. He automatically hates them.
That has no relation to the quality of any of the games' aspects.

It's a barefaced lie to deny that the gameplay and story don't (significantly) improve even if you don't like Halo.


 
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Because it's an FPS. He automatically hates them.

What does that have to do with anything?

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It's a barefaced lie to deny that the gameplay and story don't (significantly) improve even if you don't like Halo.

The storytelling does get marginally better, I will admit.


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As a stand-alone game, Halo 4 fails by those standards. Only when comparing it to it's predecessors does it become "good."
It's a sequel to 3 other games, so there's really no point to this redundant part of your post.

"oh if you disregard the previous games it gets weaker as a standalone"
Well no fucking shit. It isn't designed as a standalone game, nor should it be.
Playing the previous games is basically a prerequisite.

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Let's be honest, though. If you didn't know why the Didact hated humanity or who he even was, you were pretty lost and he's a pretty shallow villain.
Well I guess it's a good fucking thing you're told by The Librarian then, aye?
She literally tells you that he hates Humanity because they were killing Forerunners.


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I too can underplay things

It's not like Halo 2 massively goes more in depth or shows so much of the Covenant and their intentions, cultures, politics, secrets and
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the unrest and betrayal of the Sangheili and why it happened
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Halo 2 is on a whole other level compared to CE.


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Look: Verb doesn't have a ton of experience with FPS games for reasons that he explained in the OP. It doesn't matter if Halo 2 is a 6/10 in his final judgement; the point of him playing through games that he "never really gave a chance" is to expand his horizons and allow him to understand where people are coming from when they talk about shit.

Before Half-Life 2, Verb's only possible response to anything related to FPS was "it sucks" because that's all he knew. By playing these games, he can be more accurate in why he thinks something sucks. Also he'll be able to acknowledge the good parts of things too, I guess.

So just saying "only play the good ones" is really missing the point. You can't just expose yourself to the best; seeing what it's like if a mechanic didn't work well, or other additions to the FPS formula hindering or elevating its quality, helps give understanding of why certain gameplay choices continue to persist in gaming.
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I'm not saying to only play the good ones
I'd actually like to see him play them all (even Reach) to see what he thinks, instead of him being told to "not bother because they suck"

It's like someone telling me not to play MGS2 or 4.
Fuck off I'll form my own opinion.
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I'm not saying to only play the good ones
I'd actually like to see him play them all (even Reach) to see what he thinks, instead of him being told to "not bother because they suck"
The last one was more of a response to Eliab's statement that he wants Verb to play games that are actually good.

It's kind of like playing Big Rigs. You know even before you play it that it's going to be terrible, but it's cool to know why it's so terrible.

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Also the New Alexandria level was easily one of my favorite Halo levels of all time.
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The needless Metal Gear shilling irritated me more than encouraging Fuddy-Duddy to skip the rest of Halo, personally.


 
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It's a sequel to 3 other games, so there's really no point to this redundant part of your post.

That is NOT what I meant.

I was trying to get you to understand that Halo 4 is ONLY good when compared to it's predecessors. Which weren't good.

So. . .

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Well I guess it's a good fucking thing you're told by The Librarian then, aye?
She literally tells you that he hates Humanity because they were killing Forerunners.

Forgot about that.

Still, he's not nearly fleshed out enough to be considering deep.


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My Reach distaste aside, New Alexandria had a brilliant atmospheric opening.


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He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
That said, Verb should play Metal Gear Solid. Eventually. He's already got his next few games planned; and since this community spawned from a Halo forum, it only makes sense that he'd do them sooner rather than later. Rest easy that if Verb says he'll play it, he will do so and make a review of it. You just need to be patient about it.

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I know this because he's still waiting on me to finish a review from half a year ago. >.>
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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
My Reach distaste aside, New Alexandria had a brilliant atmospheric opening.
I remember trying not to get hype when that showed up in the pre-release trailers.

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Reach was a 6/10, would have been a 7/10 if the campaign didn't conflict with pre-existing lore so much.


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That is NOT what I meant.

I was trying to get you to understand that Halo 4 is ONLY good when compared to it's predecessors. Which weren't good.

So. . .
lol
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Forgot about that.

Still, he's not nearly fleshed out enough to be considering deep.
i never said he was deep
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