Spoiler Halo 5 Story Spoilers (With Images)

RomanGladiator · October 28, 2015, 01:30:52 PM

Quote from: Nick McIntyre on October 28, 2015, 01:18:35 PM

Warden felt like a Diet Didact...until Cortana took over that role completely.

So is there a reason Cortana turned so evil, excluding "muh rapmancy"?

We still never really learned what exactly the Warden is...so he has thousands of bodies...ok then, did we actually defeat it? Also, why did the Warden not try and stop Chief on Meridian? He says to Locke your passage is denied, or Cortana let Blue Team in probably? And we never actually got to see a Guardian in action either, or know exactly what they can do. So they're giant police bots that can do an electromagnetic pulse...ok.

What Halo 5 should have been: Chief seeking out Mendicant Bias with Blue Team (for more than three missions, please). It could still have Locke. You can still have the whole hunting Chief down because he's AWOL angle because Mendicant would be using Cortana in his mind because Chief would recognize her. We could have gotten a dark, mysterious story akin to Halo CE, even 2. Instead we got a Mass Effect 3. AIs wanting to take over the galaxy again, yawn. Not to mention the cringiest Halo custscene of all time when Blue Team finds Cortana (more-so than Halo 4's ending) We knew they were going to do this though. They just had revive Cortana and destroy the emotional ending of 4. After the credits rolled I was sad because this was the story we got.

Turkey · October 28, 2015, 01:41:29 PM

So did we actually accomplish anything in Halo 5? Because I can't think of a single thing that affected the story. Maybe saved some people from prometheans, but that's it.

Did they ever explain in SpOps why the prometheans are attacking colonies? Is it just for shits and giggles?

RomanGladiator · October 28, 2015, 01:54:56 PM

Finishing the campaign this morning just made me depressed. I just have too much nostalgia for Bungie era Halo that I grew up with with friends. The stories were simpler then. I know the lore, but Halo 5 is convoluted. What are the chances we will actually see a Precuroser next game? The Flood? Living Forerunners? Mendicant Bias? Probably zil. Instead we will be stopping Evil Cortana and her army of AI and Guardians. And to literally no one's surprise there will be yet another Covenant faction to fight once more. Halo 5 could have been simple and had a good story. In a lot of ways 4 was very similar to CE, Guardians could have been dark and gritty like Halo 2. But they just had to hire Brian Reed to write the story...seriously, who is even in charge of making the most important decisions for that company? Oh yeah, Bonnie Ross with her never ending SJW crusade. I wish I could erase Halo 5's story from my memory.

Alternative Facts · October 28, 2015, 01:57:13 PM

Who the hell is this Brian Reed guy, exactly?

RomanGladiator · October 28, 2015, 02:23:04 PM

Quote from: spewky bewgie on October 28, 2015, 01:57:13 PM

Who the hell is this Brian Reed guy, exactly?

He wrote they story for Spartan Ops. He's a comic book writer. Here's who should have written the story for Halo 5: Eric Nylund (which would have been a perfect fit for Blue Team, and they certainly would have gotten MORE than three missions and much better characterization), Joseph Staten, hell even Greg Bear. All of them could have handled the story better. 343i never takes the most logical route.

Alternative Facts · October 28, 2015, 02:41:33 PM

See, I didn't terribly dislike the story for Spartan Ops.

Nick McIntyre · October 28, 2015, 02:46:03 PM

Quote from: spewky bewgie on October 28, 2015, 02:41:33 PM

See, I didn't terribly dislike the story for Spartan Ops.

See, Spartan Ops was good..as a small, side-campaign.

As a full story in a game? No.

RomanGladiator · October 28, 2015, 04:08:01 PM

Something I need a lore expert to explain, which I still haven't found an answer for online. How is the Domain still functioning? It should have been destroyed with the Halos, as described in Silentium. Unless they reconnected that. Which means that the Didact going insane inside his Cryptum would also not be true...arghh. So many plot holes...I want it to make sense.

Septy · October 28, 2015, 04:28:53 PM

A reminder that Halo 5 followed tradition of the beginning being escaping a space ship/station

Halo 1- Pillar of Autumn
Halo 2- Cairo
Halo 3- Dreadnought
Halo 4- Forward Unto Dawn
Halo 5- Oni station

R o c k e t · October 28, 2015, 04:36:45 PM

Knew Cortana wasn't dead, LOL to all you guys who argued she was.

A few things I felt they didn't do well. It was focused on Osiris and Blue Team, but it was like tunnel vision. What about the smear campaign ONI was doing by saying chief was KIA? What about the UNSC's views on what Chief did? How about all the Spartans and Marines hating Fireteam Osiris for hunting Chief like Buck said? In the game, it's like only the Infinity knew what was going on.

The Arbiter didn't assist in the hunt as much as i thought he would judging from the trailers.

The hunt for Chief, was a damn short one. They catch up to them for the first time at the first planet he goes to after rebelling?

R o c k e t · October 28, 2015, 04:37:55 PM

Quote from: Nick McIntyre on October 28, 2015, 02:46:03 PM

Quote from: spewky bewgie on October 28, 2015, 02:41:33 PM
See, I didn't terribly dislike the story for Spartan Ops.

See, Spartan Ops was good..as a small, side-campaign.

As a full story in a game? No.

Neat story, but I hated playing the missions

Korra · October 28, 2015, 04:40:08 PM

Quote from: RocketChan on October 28, 2015, 04:36:45 PM

Knew Cortana wasn't dead, LOL to all you guys who argued she was.

A few things I felt they didn't do well. It was focused on Osiris and Blue Team, but it was like tunnel vision. What about the smear campaign ONI was doing by saying chief was KIA? What about the UNSC's views on what Chief did? How about all the Spartans and Marines hating Fireteam Osiris for hunting Chief like Buck said? In the game, it's like only the Infinity knew what was going on.

The Arbiter didn't assist in the hunt as much as i thought he would judging from the trailers.

The hunt for Chief, was a damn short one. They catch up to them for the first time at the first planet he goes to after rebelling?

I mean, its not like Locke actually caught the Chief and defeated him. Locke got his ass kicked in their first fight.

Deleted · October 28, 2015, 04:52:11 PM

I just got done and while it was a strange direction for the story to go in loved it

I just don't get why 343 weren't honest about what the story was about. the whole manhunt thing was hardly the focus at all

Sandtrap · October 28, 2015, 05:04:59 PM

Quote from: RomanGladiator on October 28, 2015, 04:08:01 PM

Something I need a lore expert to explain, which I still haven't found an answer for online. How is the Domain still functioning? It should have been destroyed with the Halos, as described in Silentium. Unless they reconnected that. Which means that the Didact going insane inside his Cryptum would also not be true...arghh. So many plot holes...I want it to make sense.

My best guess is this. And I remember a little bit from the novels. At the end of the Forerunner-Flood war, the Domain no longer responded to the Forerunners or granted them access. This was before the Halos fired. The Domain is a sentient living thing, essentially. It's Precursor tech that basically overlaps reality in another layer of space. It's just pure information.

So, my best guess is this. The Domain was wiped out in the Milky Way when the Halos fired. But it's a living thing, and only a small part of a whole. There's other galaxies out there with Precursor tech. So, I figure, that over time, that wound in the Domain healed itself.

It was like a gunshot through a sheet of fabric. Sure, there was a hole in the cloth, but if the fabric is living, it repaired itself. And I imagine that the Domain's resistance to letting Forerunners access still remained once it healed.

Cue Cortana in Halo 4 partially accessing it, and then, at some point, at the end of 4, coming into full contact with it and finding the source that the Forerunners once used to access it.

That's my best guess.

The Lord Ruler · October 28, 2015, 07:46:46 PM

Preapre for the greatest hunt (like five levels) in history lads.

Rinev · October 28, 2015, 07:47:25 PM

I just finished the campaign so I can finally enter this thread.

The Lord Ruler · October 28, 2015, 07:49:41 PM

And LOL that ending cliffhanger is worse than Halo 2

R o c k e t · October 28, 2015, 09:32:23 PM

Quote from: Korra on October 28, 2015, 04:40:08 PM

Quote from: RocketChan on October 28, 2015, 04:36:45 PM
Knew Cortana wasn't dead, LOL to all you guys who argued she was.

A few things I felt they didn't do well. It was focused on Osiris and Blue Team, but it was like tunnel vision. What about the smear campaign ONI was doing by saying chief was KIA? What about the UNSC's views on what Chief did? How about all the Spartans and Marines hating Fireteam Osiris for hunting Chief like Buck said? In the game, it's like only the Infinity knew what was going on.

The Arbiter didn't assist in the hunt as much as i thought he would judging from the trailers.

The hunt for Chief, was a damn short one. They catch up to them for the first time at the first planet he goes to after rebelling?
I mean, its not like Locke actually caught the Chief and defeated him. Locke got his ass kicked in their first fight.

I was simply meaning they caught up to him right away

R o c k e t · October 28, 2015, 09:33:13 PM

Quote from: The Lord Ruler on October 28, 2015, 07:49:41 PM

And LOL that ending cliffhanger is worse than Halo 2

Cliffhangers aren't all bad imo

The Lord Ruler · October 28, 2015, 09:35:34 PM

Quote from: RocketChan on October 28, 2015, 09:33:13 PM

Quote from: The Lord Ruler on October 28, 2015, 07:49:41 PM
And LOL that ending cliffhanger is worse than Halo 2
Cliffhangers aren't all bad imo

i agree

but this was absolutely terrible

Deleted · October 28, 2015, 10:06:17 PM

My only problem with the story is that they revealed Cortana at the beginning. If Cortana being alive was held back for the end it would have solved a lot of the story's problems

Sandtrap · October 29, 2015, 12:31:07 AM

A former UNSC soldier needs your help!

And his name is John OneOneCena!

Mmmmm Napalm · October 29, 2015, 01:54:10 AM

Watched a walkthrough on YouTube.

So they basically took everything that could have been interesting and threw it out the window.

RomanGladiator · October 29, 2015, 06:18:44 AM

Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on October 29, 2015, 01:54:10 AM

Watched a walkthrough on YouTube.

So they basically took everything that could have been interesting and threw it out the window.

Yup. So many things this game could have touched on in the Halo Universe...Precursors, Flood, remaining Forerunners...hell, even if the Didact returned as a digital essence and was using Cortana to get Chief to activate the Guardians so he could keep control from beyond the grave....now that would have been better than what we got! Instead of all these possibilities they give us a story that's been done so many times before in science fiction and give us HAL9000 (ahem, I mean Cortana).

RomanGladiator · October 29, 2015, 06:24:27 AM

Also, I hope another lore master can answer this. During The Breaking, The Warden says humanity was never supposed to reclaim the Mantle, and that the Librarian always wanted humanity's created to inherit it instead. What the actual fuck? So whenever Spark was calling Chief a Reclaimer he meant Cortana? Can't be...so that cutscene from Halo 4 w/librarian meant nothing? What's her plan? "You are the culmination of a thousand lifetimes of planning..." Why would she want Cortana to do what she's doing? Lets just make the Librarian a villain now too huh 343i?

Girl of Mystery · October 29, 2015, 08:57:51 AM

Quote from: Septy on October 28, 2015, 04:28:53 PM

A reminder that Halo 5 followed tradition of the beginning being escaping a space ship/station

Halo 1- Pillar of Autumn
Halo 2- Cairo
Halo 3- Dreadnought
Halo 4- Forward Unto Dawn
Halo 5- Oni station

Blue Team on Argent Moon is the 2nd mission. The first mission is with Osiris on Kamchatka, rescuing Halsey and killing Jul 'Mdama.

Septy · October 29, 2015, 09:08:16 AM

Quote from: citrus snek on October 29, 2015, 08:57:51 AM

Quote from: Septy on October 28, 2015, 04:28:53 PM
A reminder that Halo 5 followed tradition of the beginning being escaping a space ship/station

Halo 1- Pillar of Autumn
Halo 2- Cairo
Halo 3- Dreadnought
Halo 4- Forward Unto Dawn
Halo 5- Oni station
Blue Team on Argent Moon is the 2nd mission. The first mission is with Osiris on Kamchatka, rescuing Halsey and killing Jul 'Mdama.

It's still the beginning of the game

Girl of Mystery · October 29, 2015, 09:11:23 AM

Quote from: Septy on October 29, 2015, 09:08:16 AM

Quote from: citrus snek on October 29, 2015, 08:57:51 AM
Quote from: Septy on October 28, 2015, 04:28:53 PM
A reminder that Halo 5 followed tradition of the beginning being escaping a space ship/station

Halo 1- Pillar of Autumn
Halo 2- Cairo
Halo 3- Dreadnought
Halo 4- Forward Unto Dawn
Halo 5- Oni station
Blue Team on Argent Moon is the 2nd mission. The first mission is with Osiris on Kamchatka, rescuing Halsey and killing Jul 'Mdama.
It's still the beginning of the game

by being the second mission

which isn't the beginning

also, what halo 3 did you play? it starts in a jungle

Septy · October 29, 2015, 09:14:18 AM

Quote from: citrus snek on October 29, 2015, 09:11:23 AM

Quote from: Septy on October 29, 2015, 09:08:16 AM
Quote from: citrus snek on October 29, 2015, 08:57:51 AM
Quote from: Septy on October 28, 2015, 04:28:53 PM
A reminder that Halo 5 followed tradition of the beginning being escaping a space ship/station

Halo 1- Pillar of Autumn
Halo 2- Cairo
Halo 3- Dreadnought
Halo 4- Forward Unto Dawn
Halo 5- Oni station
Blue Team on Argent Moon is the 2nd mission. The first mission is with Osiris on Kamchatka, rescuing Halsey and killing Jul 'Mdama.
It's still the beginning of the game
by being the second mission

which isn't the beginning

also, what halo 3 did you play? it starts in a jungle

Except it is

Halo 3 starts with Chief jumping off the dreadnought

Girl of Mystery · October 29, 2015, 09:15:56 AM

Quote from: Septy on October 29, 2015, 09:14:18 AM

Quote from: citrus snek on October 29, 2015, 09:11:23 AM
Quote from: Septy on October 29, 2015, 09:08:16 AM
Quote from: citrus snek on October 29, 2015, 08:57:51 AM
Quote from: Septy on October 28, 2015, 04:28:53 PM
A reminder that Halo 5 followed tradition of the beginning being escaping a space ship/station

Halo 1- Pillar of Autumn
Halo 2- Cairo
Halo 3- Dreadnought
Halo 4- Forward Unto Dawn
Halo 5- Oni station
Blue Team on Argent Moon is the 2nd mission. The first mission is with Osiris on Kamchatka, rescuing Halsey and killing Jul 'Mdama.
It's still the beginning of the game
by being the second mission

which isn't the beginning

also, what halo 3 did you play? it starts in a jungle
Except it is

Halo 3 starts with Chief jumping off the dreadnought

It starts with him crashing. He jumped off before the game.