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Oh my god they're going to pull a starchild ending for Halo 6 aren't they.

The only way I see that happening is by firing the Array.
Problem is that there's only 4 rings left. One of which doesn't even have a control room, and another with its surface glassed.

But wait there's more, turns out the Forerunners built a THIRD ARK!

ALL THE WAY IN ANOTHER GALAXY!

Surely they'll help manufacture more Halo rings to help their good old Human chums!

Even the Forerunners weren't able to travel galaxies

That we know of.

One new book and they can.

It's been established that they can't.

It was established Cortana died, if their interviews were to be believed.

We see that they're finding someway around that here.

Because they were planning to continue Cortana as a character. They couldn't really just go "lol yeah she isn't dead. also here's halo 5's entire story".

Cortana "dying" isn't even comparable to the Forerunner's established capabilities.

Difference between the two is that Forerunners magically being capable of galactic travel would break canon.
"Killing" Cortana and bringing her back in Halo 5 doesn't break canon.

Double posting Path Kethona.avi because 343 are so predictable at this point that you know that's where the last of the Forerunners are camped out, and you know that over the span of 100 000 years since the array fired they've magically tuned their technology up a little bit to allow them a little faster leeway with galactic travel.

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Quote from: Deadtrap on October 22, 2015, 02:58:03 PM

Oh my god they're going to pull a starchild ending for Halo 6 aren't they.

The only way I see that happening is by firing the Array.
Problem is that there's only 4 rings left. One of which doesn't even have a control room, and another with its surface glassed.

But wait there's more, turns out the Forerunners built a THIRD ARK!

ALL THE WAY IN ANOTHER GALAXY!

Surely they'll help manufacture more Halo rings to help their good old Human chums!

Even the Forerunners weren't able to travel galaxies

That we know of.

One new book and they can.

It's been established that they can't.

It was established Cortana died, if their interviews were to be believed.

We see that they're finding someway around that here.

Because they were planning to continue Cortana as a character. They couldn't really just go "lol yeah she isn't dead. also here's halo 5's entire story".

Cortana "dying" isn't even comparable to the Forerunner's established capabilities.

Difference between the two is that Forerunners magically being capable of galactic travel would break canon.
"Killing" Cortana and bringing her back in Halo 5 doesn't break canon.

Double posting Path Kethona.avi because 343 are so predictable at this point that you know that's where the last of the Forerunners are camped out, and you know that over the span of 100 000 years since the array fired they've magically tuned their technology up a little bit to allow them a little faster leeway with galactic travel.

okay man

I dunno if it was you or somebody else who adamantly defended that Cortana was dead back when the subject came up.

But lol either way. Figures.

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Quote from: Deadtrap on October 22, 2015, 02:58:03 PM

Oh my god they're going to pull a starchild ending for Halo 6 aren't they.

The only way I see that happening is by firing the Array.
Problem is that there's only 4 rings left. One of which doesn't even have a control room, and another with its surface glassed.

But wait there's more, turns out the Forerunners built a THIRD ARK!

ALL THE WAY IN ANOTHER GALAXY!

Surely they'll help manufacture more Halo rings to help their good old Human chums!

Even the Forerunners weren't able to travel galaxies

That we know of.

One new book and they can.

It's been established that they can't.

It was established Cortana died, if their interviews were to be believed.

We see that they're finding someway around that here.

Because they were planning to continue Cortana as a character. They couldn't really just go "lol yeah she isn't dead. also here's halo 5's entire story".

Cortana "dying" isn't even comparable to the Forerunner's established capabilities.

Difference between the two is that Forerunners magically being capable of galactic travel would break canon.
"Killing" Cortana and bringing her back in Halo 5 doesn't break canon.

Double posting Path Kethona.avi because 343 are so predictable at this point that you know that's where the last of the Forerunners are camped out, and you know that over the span of 100 000 years since the array fired they've magically tuned their technology up a little bit to allow them a little faster leeway with galactic travel.

okay man

I dunno if it was you or somebody else who adamantly defended that Cortana was dead back when the subject came up.

But lol either way. Figures.

Bringing back a single character =/= they're so ridiculously predictable

You'll shill out to the grave for em won't ya.

Wish I had your blind sense of faith.

Yes, they are predictable. Everybody called it. Cortana just pulled the old routine fake death deal. All the remaining faithful people went "lol no that'd be too cliche." Even before the ending was leaked it was pretty easy to figure out that Locke and Chief were going to team up on the bro team.

And look at that. There it is. 343 practically telegraphs what they're up to. Kinda sucks.

People were expecting the flood? I don't think I've heard anyone who I've talked to this game with expect the flood to show up.

Bringing back Cortana was unpredictable in the sense that nobody was predicting that 343 would throw their most interesting plot decision entirely out the window.

What needs to happen in 6 then:
>Chief finally seeking out Mendicant Bias to combat her
>We find out it was really the Didact's essence who was controlling Cortanta, who was in turn being controlled by a Precursor/Neo-Gravemind, in attempt to weaken organics and turning their creations against them, they will be less effective combating the Flood with no AIs, their fleets will be less coordinated
>Ancient form of Flood/Precursor return
>Arbiter unites all former Covie races for a giant coalition
>Awaken Bornstellar
>Visit Path Kethona
>Return of 343GS
>Humanity gains control of Prometheans through Chief. Chief turns more and more into the Didact, ie being able to control Prometheans (maybe)
>Possibly the Librarian being alive and meeting her
>War against AI, Flood, Precursors vs all organic life

Bringing back Cortana was unpredictable in the sense that nobody was predicting that 343 would throw their most interesting plot decision entirely out the window.

I would like this post, except plenty of people were predicting it, and plenty of people were just praying they didn't really do it.

And so, yeah, are Mendicant Bias and Spark just getting the shaft for this game? Granted, Spark's survival was just in a book and I really wouldn't have minded him staying dead, but Bias supposedly set the events of Halo 4 in motion back in 3. No mention of him at all would just be a massive failure of an opportunity; although, the Cortana thing sure is as well.

Quote from: RomanGladiator on October 22, 2015, 05:02:25 PM

What needs to happen in 6 then:
>Chief finally seeking out Mendicant Bias to combat her
>We find out it was really the Didact's essence who was controlling Cortanta, who was in turn being controlled by a Precursor/Neo-Gravemind, in attempt to weaken organics and turning their creations against them, they will be less effective combating the Flood with no AIs, their fleets will be less coordinated
>Ancient form of Flood/Precursor return
>Arbiter unites all former Covie races for a giant coalition
>Awaken Bornstellar
>Visit Path Kethona
>Return of 343GS
>Humanity gains control of Prometheans through Chief. Chief turns more and more into the Didact, ie being able to control Prometheans (maybe)
>Possibly the Librarian being alive and meeting her
>War against AI, Flood, Precursors vs all organic life

Ha

Hahahaha

That's too much story for one game

I know...I just want the answers to all those hanging plot points. I think Halo 5 was a good opportunity to address at least a couple...but you know, they had to go with evil Cortana. A hint that at least that a greater force is controlling her...

Quote from: Deadtrap on October 22, 2015, 04:24:48 PM

I love how you dance around on technicalities to try and prove your point no matter how far you have to look and dig just to deflect every ounce of negative naysay that goes 343's way.

Umm, lol.
You aren't really in a position to say I'm scraping for things when that's literally the only thing you've done.
"oh 343 bought cortana back. obviously gonna make halo 6 about forerunners and stuff and them being in path kethona blah blah another sandtrap babble"

It's pretty obvious they're just taking this in a direction where the AI are just standing in/are puppets for the Precursors and humanity is standing in for the Forerunners.

I find this all rather strangely parallel though, given some thought.

Arguably the greatest military asset and leader having his machine, essentially the greatest one of them as well, turn on him. (Didact and Mendicant Bias)

Having one machine refuse to help the other and instead likely help lead against it. (Mendicant Bias and Offensive Bias)

I like this story, in all honesty.

Seriously, what did you guys want?

Cortana's been descending into shit since the end of Halo 2. We needed that plot thread to go somewhere, and for her to be an antagonist, if you ask me, is cool.

To be fair, I'm sort of half and half on it. I do like that at the very least, it has some plausible roots and connections in the story. I wonder if the Assembly joined her or rejected her invite.

And it reminds me a little bit of Marathon or System Shock in a way. Cortana now supposedly has access to a Halo ring. Who's to say that she doesn't do a little bit of Shodan and tinker with the Flood?

Quote from: Winy on October 22, 2015, 11:28:33 PM

I like this story, in all honesty.

Seriously, what did you guys want?

Cortana's been descending into shit since the end of Halo 2. We needed that plot thread to go somewhere, and for her to be an antagonist, if you ask me, is cool.

To be fair, I'm sort of half and half on it. I do like that at the very least, it has some plausible roots and connections in the story. I wonder if the Assembly joined her or rejected her invite.

And it reminds me a little bit of Marathon or System Shock in a way. Cortana now supposedly has access to a Halo ring. Who's to say that she doesn't do a little bit of Shodan and tinker with the Flood?

I doubt we'll hear anything about the Assembly.
343 doesn't use it or mention it at all for some reason.

Some guy's doing a stream of the entire campaign and he's on Mission 7 right now.

I like this story, in all honesty.

Seriously, what did you guys want?

Cortana's been descending into shit since the end of Halo 2. We needed that plot thread to go somewhere, and for her to be an antagonist, if you ask me, is cool.

I was honestly hoping for a story where Chief and Blue team go off on their own and Chief really develops more of a character (since so many people critiqued that he didn't really have one outside the novels). Without Cortana he'd develop his humanity, making choices on his own to try his best to benefit the galaxy and fight not as a machine but as a human. Blue team would've facilitated this as they all could've done so supporting each other.

Really didn't give a shit about Cortana's story going on, she was more or less guaranteed death since Halo 2, got lucky in 3 and should've stayed dead in 4. I don't care for the comicbook school of story-telling where nobody ever really dies. Which looks to be what 343i are into so far given Halo 4 and this supposed plot.

I may or may not have just watched Halo 5's ending, and it's actually alright.

It probably was the same thing I saw.

I don't get how people are going to understand this game at all without reading the novels.