Halo 5 Story specific discussion thread (Admirals get in here!!)

tbh fam the entirety of the Created storyline has killed my interest in the story
the didact vs chief conflict was actually interesting. they had a really good thing going where halo 4 left off
bringing back cortana was fucking stupid
fuck brian reed and whoever else was involved in that shit

and considering the REQ system and spartan abilities are here to stay my multiplayer interest is also beginning to plummet

this is not what i wanted Halo to become

I think it would have been ideal for the story to have continued on with the Chief against the Didact, but truthfully, I think that could have only been done justice with Chris Schlerf.

Question: Would you have preferred Cortana to reclaim the Mantle, or Halsey?

I honestly don't know. I suppose if it was done well, Halsey, and have Cortana remain dead. But with Brian Reed as lead writer, I don't think Didact or Halsey would be done well so we're kinda fucked.

Would Spartan Ops and Escalation been enough?

tbh fam the entirety of the Created storyline has killed my interest in the story
the didact vs chief conflict was actually interesting. they had a really good thing going where halo 4 left off
bringing back cortana was fucking stupid
fuck brian reed and whoever else was involved in that shit

and considering the REQ system and spartan abilities are here to stay my multiplayer interest is also beginning to plummet

this is not what i wanted Halo to become

I think it would have been ideal for the story to have continued on with the Chief against the Didact, but truthfully, I think that could have only been done justice with Chris Schlerf.

Question: Would you have preferred Cortana to reclaim the Mantle, or Halsey?

I honestly don't know. I suppose if it was done well, Halsey, and have Cortana remain dead. But with Brian Reed as lead writer, I don't think Didact or Halsey would be done well so we're kinda fucked.

Would Spartan Ops and Escalation been enough?

I'm pretty much in agreement that the created thing has killed my interest in the future lore, but I still want to weigh my thoughts in here.

If Escalation had actually gone somewhere instead of preserving the status quo, then easily Halsey. She's actually an interesting character, and has a much more interesting motivation than just AI RULES HUMANS SUCK.

But, as the ever-profound Yahtzee says, master chief and cortana are the only marketable characters of Halo to the mass audience, so expecting a main-game story to do anything more interesting than that is pretty unreasonable. Especially given peoples' reactions to the didact in halo 4 and the thought of introducing another lead. In both Halo 2 and Halo 5, the new protagonists (Locke and Arby) were met with a lot of disdain because the mass audience couldn't give to shits about something more interesting than a dustbin on legs.

Though honestly, I'd rather the story of Halo 5 have focused on the politics of the UNSC, Swords, Covenant Remnant, NCA/ Insurrection/ Colonies and the general post-war climate than having to delve into forerunner space magic bullshit. The post-war period is a pretty interesting setting that is being wasted in favour of prometheans and shit. It feels like they're rushing the story now, trying to tie up plotlines like Jul Mdama as fast as possible to move onto the new stuff. Then there's the stuff like the Absolute Record story arc where, besides the loss of one assault carrier, literally nothing happened and neither side was better or worse off for the experience, and of course the negotiations story arc where again, literally nothing happened. As far as nothing goes, those three issues weren't too bad, but ultimately nothing really happened to change the balance of power. As someone who has very little interest in the forerunners and precursors and all the related stuff I tend to group under the term "space magic bullshit", the SMB taking centre-stage is something killing my interest in the series.

I'll probably get Tales from Slipspace with the hopes that it finally explains black team's return to UNSC-space, and Halo Wars 2 because Halo Wars, but I'll probably just look at halo 6 on youtube. My lack of interest for where halo is going, combined with the pitiful state the game launched in and the almost certain guarantee the req system will return means that I have very little, if any faith in 343 as a company.

Post HC War shit is just uninteresting in general tbh.

Post HC War shit is just uninteresting in general tbh.

with a good writer at the helm, the Sangheili Civil War, Great Schism, Insurrection and general politics of the post war period could be just as interesting as the post-GCW star wars stuff (Before they retconned it). If the deal is the species are to unite before the flood returns for the Mass effect 3-ening of the series, having them sort their own shit out would be pretty interesting and much better than having cortana ex machina come from nowhere to do it.

Hell, I'd love a mass-effect style game for Halo. I could easily see a story where you play as Locke trying to hunt down Blue Team and having to help out in various conflicts and shit on a bunch of worlds to be really interesting, if in an ME style gameplay (HAving the ship that can go to different systems at the player's choice, do missions and side missions and shit)

But, like I said, it would need a competant writer.

>forerunner space magic

The Forerunner Saga and stuff involving the Forerunners is probably the most interesting and fantastical part of all Halo Lore. Not saying that Post-War stuff isn't good. Then again, I'm really into cosmic calamities and abstract shit.

>forerunner space magic

The Forerunner Saga and stuff involving the Forerunners is probably the most interesting and fantastical part of all Halo Lore. Not saying that Post-War stuff isn't good. Then again, I'm really into cosmic calamities and abstract shit.

I, and a lot of peoplen got into the franchise for being gritty military scifi (In the book department more than the games) I have absolutely no interest in space fantasy, and I found the forerunner books to be the dullest part of the lore, and also some of the dullest books I've ever had to read.

The tone shift from gritty to space magic is too fast, and the old and new material barely feel part of the same franchise anymore.

It's like the next elder scrolls game suddenly being set in space with hard physics explanations for magic and technology and shit with some familiar names like the empire; I love scifi but I would detest that as a direction for the series because the two don't mesh well, and suddenly the people who got into TES for being a weird, fairly 'out there' fantasy setting now feel alienated from the newer material.

If I wanted a space fantasy with weird shit, I'd look at WH40K or Mass effect. I don't want a series to have a sudden tone shift to the point it feels like a badly written fanfiction in a completely different genre.

Escalation wasn't fully garbage until the last issue absolutely ruined everything that was built over it. The same goes for Spartan Ops and what Halo could have continued off of after 4.

Do that again and it'll be a ban for all involved.

Do that again and it'll be a ban for all involved.

I understand

Spartan Ops is haram

I think i'm starting to see thy Archive kicked certain people out.

Escalation wasn't fully garbage

It was pretty good until Reed and Boudreau came in

>forerunner space magic

The Forerunner Saga and stuff involving the Forerunners is probably the most interesting and fantastical part of all Halo Lore. Not saying that Post-War stuff isn't good. Then again, I'm really into cosmic calamities and abstract shit.

I'd probably have really enjoyed the Forerunner books if they had nothing to do with Halo.

>forerunner space magic

The Forerunner Saga and stuff involving the Forerunners is probably the most interesting and fantastical part of all Halo Lore. Not saying that Post-War stuff isn't good. Then again, I'm really into cosmic calamities and abstract shit.

I'd probably have really enjoyed the Forerunner books if they had nothing to do with Halo.

I'd probably have really enjoyed this comment if it had nothing to do with Sep7agon.

I loved the feel of the Forerunner saga a lot, but I don't think its been implemented well into Halo's "present day" aside from Halo 4 and Hunters in the Dark.

It worked better in the Forerunner saga due to it being fairly detached from the rest of the series by being set so far in advance.

To be honest, the Forerunner Saga stood by itself and didn't need to be brought back to the new saga. You can still have Forerunner structures and Halos (duh), but its a completely different era that has long past.

>forerunner space magic

The Forerunner Saga and stuff involving the Forerunners is probably the most interesting and fantastical part of all Halo Lore. Not saying that Post-War stuff isn't good. Then again, I'm really into cosmic calamities and abstract shit.

I'd probably have really enjoyed the Forerunner books if they had nothing to do with Halo.

I'd probably have really enjoyed this comment if it had nothing to do with Sep7agon.

>forerunner space magic

The Forerunner Saga and stuff involving the Forerunners is probably the most interesting and fantastical part of all Halo Lore. Not saying that Post-War stuff isn't good. Then again, I'm really into cosmic calamities and abstract shit.

I'd probably have really enjoyed the Forerunner books if they had nothing to do with Halo.

I'd probably have really enjoyed this comment if it had nothing to do with Sep7agon.

Don't know why I didn't post these sooner

YouTube

YouTube

YouTube

Looks like they did TRY to give Tanaka development. Did 343 not learn from BUNGiE that is a dumb idea to try to put your story elements on YuGiOh cards outside of the game?

YouTube

Do that again and it'll be a ban for all involved.

hoya, give it a rest.

Daily reminder that Vale is the most useless member of Osiris

Daily reminder that Vale is the most useless member of Osiris

You know except for the part where she's there single most usefully member when is comes to all things Sanghelios

Do that again and it'll be a ban for all involved.

hoya, give it a rest.

what

Daily reminder that Vale is the most useless member of Osiris

You know except for the part where she's there single most usefully member when is comes to all things Sanghelios

Literally the only thing she's good for, Locke evidently knows things about alien cultures as he speaks Yonhetian and was a professional hitman, Buck is an experienced soldier and Tanaka has engineering talents which are likely applicable to Human, Covenant and Forerunner technology.

Vale knowing shit about the Sangheili isn't particularly helpful in the grand scheme of things and they're lucky that there was even a Guardian on Sanghelios.

Daily reminder that Vale is the most useless member of Osiris

You know except for the part where she's there single most usefully member when is comes to all things Sanghelios

Literally the only thing she's good for, Locke evidently knows things about alien cultures as he speaks Yonhetian and was a professional hitman, Buck is an experienced soldier and Tanaka has engineering talents which are likely applicable to Human, Covenant and Forerunner technology.

Vale knowing shit about the Sangheili isn't particularly helpful in the grand scheme of things and they're lucky that there was even a Guardian on Sanghelios.

I mean are we really going to count out the woman who beat up a forerunner cyborg with her bare hands before even being augmented? (And probably tanks Sangheli dicks on the regular basis)

Do that again and it'll be a ban for all involved.

hoya, give it a rest.

what

https://youtu.be/d66NOXhwfoI?t=35s

Daily reminder that Vale is the most useless member of Osiris

You know except for the part where she's there single most usefully member when is comes to all things Sanghelios

Literally the only thing she's good for, Locke evidently knows things about alien cultures as he speaks Yonhetian and was a professional hitman, Buck is an experienced soldier and Tanaka has engineering talents which are likely applicable to Human, Covenant and Forerunner technology.

Vale knowing shit about the Sangheili isn't particularly helpful in the grand scheme of things and they're lucky that there was even a Guardian on Sanghelios.

I mean are we really going to count out the woman who beat up a forerunner cyborg with her bare hands before even being augmented? (And probably tanks Sangheli dicks on the regular basis)

Forgot about that tbh, that was stupid as well considering she was like 16 and was also capable on taking on trained marines well enough to be considered for the program.

I just don't like Vale tbh. (shame because she has nice armour and says some cool things about Sanghelios)

Do that again and it'll be a ban for all involved.

hoya, give it a rest.

what

https://youtu.be/d66NOXhwfoI?t=35s

Palmer was almost alright until every other word out of her mouth was "eggheads", and then everything else sounded like it came out of a Karen Travis novel.

Daily reminder that Vale is the most useless member of Osiris

You know except for the part where she's there single most usefully member when is comes to all things Sanghelios

Literally the only thing she's good for, Locke evidently knows things about alien cultures as he speaks Yonhetian and was a professional hitman, Buck is an experienced soldier and Tanaka has engineering talents which are likely applicable to Human, Covenant and Forerunner technology.

Vale knowing shit about the Sangheili isn't particularly helpful in the grand scheme of things and they're lucky that there was even a Guardian on Sanghelios.

Trade pidgin. Not Yonhetian.

Daily reminder that Vale is the most useless member of Osiris

You know except for the part where she's there single most usefully member when is comes to all things Sanghelios

Literally the only thing she's good for, Locke evidently knows things about alien cultures as he speaks Yonhetian and was a professional hitman, Buck is an experienced soldier and Tanaka has engineering talents which are likely applicable to Human, Covenant and Forerunner technology.

Vale knowing shit about the Sangheili isn't particularly helpful in the grand scheme of things and they're lucky that there was even a Guardian on Sanghelios.

Trade pidgin. Not Yonhetian.

My mistake.

Daily reminder that Vale is the most useless member of Osiris

You know except for the part where she's there single most usefully member when is comes to all things Sanghelios

Literally the only thing she's good for, Locke evidently knows things about alien cultures as he speaks Yonhetian and was a professional hitman, Buck is an experienced soldier and Tanaka has engineering talents which are likely applicable to Human, Covenant and Forerunner technology.

Vale knowing shit about the Sangheili isn't particularly helpful in the grand scheme of things and they're lucky that there was even a Guardian on Sanghelios.

Trade pidgin. Not Yonhetian.

My mistake.

And you call yourself a member of the Yonhet community.