Quote from: ßå¢øñŠħëłƒ on December 30, 2014, 12:06:18 PMI have always despised midship so I think truth is a horrible map. Aside from that, Empire is fun and the gameplay is fun once I stopped trying to battleield it by only using my sights.This is literally the worst opinion I have ever readSpoileri still love you
I have always despised midship so I think truth is a horrible map. Aside from that, Empire is fun and the gameplay is fun once I stopped trying to battleield it by only using my sights.
On a scale of Halo 4 to Halo 2, how is Halo 5's gameplay?
Quote from: Prime Meridia on December 30, 2014, 03:47:17 PMOn a scale of Halo 4 to Halo 2, how is Halo 5's gameplay?Halo 2.75Only way you could compare it to H4 would be sprint's existence (which is a must really), it plays like H2 and most definitely requires strategy and intelligence over reactions
Quote from: Prime Meridia on December 30, 2014, 03:47:17 PMOn a scale of Halo 4 to Halo 2, how is Halo 5's gameplay?It looks a lot like Halo 4, it plays like a call of duty/halo crossover.
Quote from: Sprungli on December 30, 2014, 04:05:10 PMQuote from: Prime Meridia on December 30, 2014, 03:47:17 PMOn a scale of Halo 4 to Halo 2, how is Halo 5's gameplay?Halo 2.75Only way you could compare it to H4 would be sprint's existence (which is a must really), it plays like H2 and most definitely requires strategy and intelligence over reactionsThat's good. Has 343 realized that throwing fifty thousand corners on a suit of armor doesn't look good?
Quote from: Mr Whiteflame on December 30, 2014, 04:20:33 PMQuote from: Prime Meridia on December 30, 2014, 03:47:17 PMOn a scale of Halo 4 to Halo 2, how is Halo 5's gameplay?It looks a lot like Halo 4, it plays like a call of duty/halo crossover.In what sense? Speed?
Quote from: Prime Meridia on December 30, 2014, 03:47:17 PMOn a scale of Halo 4 to Halo 2, how is Halo 5's gameplay?Halo 2.75Only way you could compare it to H4 would be sprint's existence (which is a must really)
Quote from: Sprungli on December 30, 2014, 04:05:10 PMQuote from: Prime Meridia on December 30, 2014, 03:47:17 PMOn a scale of Halo 4 to Halo 2, how is Halo 5's gameplay?Halo 2.75Only way you could compare it to H4 would be sprint's existence (which is a must really)Why?
Okay, now that I've played here are my problems.SMG is pretty much useless. I got 1 kill with it, nobody even bothered to use it on me. It just about ties or does worse than the AR at close range, but that might be because of moving closer as the SMG fires means it was out of range at first, and the range is horribly short.DMR is meh, I don't care for it, but it's there and some people killed me with it, so I assume it's viable for something.Why the fuck do grenades kill me now? I got killed by 1 grenade, as a matter of fact, it killed me and a teammate both with full shields and health off spawn. Grenades never did this before, barely in CE and never in any other game.Why is the beta so small? Reach offered much more content than this, we have 2 power weapons, the Sword and the Sniper. Reach gave us the Rocket Launcher, Beam Rifle, Pro-Pipe, Sniper, Plasma Launcher, Energy Sword, Shotgun, do you get the point? Maybe it's because it's the first week, but we still had more the first week of Reach Beta, and not having a lot to playtest seems counter-productive, don't you think?
Quote from: Sly Instinct on December 30, 2014, 04:54:48 PMQuote from: Sprungli on December 30, 2014, 04:05:10 PMQuote from: Prime Meridia on December 30, 2014, 03:47:17 PMOn a scale of Halo 4 to Halo 2, how is Halo 5's gameplay?Halo 2.75Only way you could compare it to H4 would be sprint's existence (which is a must really)Why?Why is it a must?Because Halo must have it, not necessarily because it's worse with no sprint-it isn't. Every other FPS has sprint,
it has gotten to the point where sprint is as core a control aspect as using the triggers to shoot is,
the MCC is living proof that the lack of sprint just feels very outdated-even without any knowledge it would be immediate despite no major graphical difference that H2A is a far older game than H4.
Point is it must retain sprint in order to stay relevant, the series must adapt.
Perhaps in 10 years not having sprint will be the norm, and I expect that if that happens 343 will drop sprint because it's not something expected of a modern game.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on December 30, 2014, 08:03:40 PMOkay, now that I've played here are my problems.SMG is pretty much useless. I got 1 kill with it, nobody even bothered to use it on me. It just about ties or does worse than the AR at close range, but that might be because of moving closer as the SMG fires means it was out of range at first, and the range is horribly short.DMR is meh, I don't care for it, but it's there and some people killed me with it, so I assume it's viable for something.Why the fuck do grenades kill me now? I got killed by 1 grenade, as a matter of fact, it killed me and a teammate both with full shields and health off spawn. Grenades never did this before, barely in CE and never in any other game.Why is the beta so small? Reach offered much more content than this, we have 2 power weapons, the Sword and the Sniper. Reach gave us the Rocket Launcher, Beam Rifle, Pro-Pipe, Sniper, Plasma Launcher, Energy Sword, Shotgun, do you get the point? Maybe it's because it's the first week, but we still had more the first week of Reach Beta, and not having a lot to playtest seems counter-productive, don't you think?Reach's beta came out in May 2010. 4 months before Reach released.There's still 10/11 months until Halo 5 releases, so they're obviously not as far into development.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on December 30, 2014, 08:03:40 PMOkay, now that I've played here are my problems.SMG is pretty much useless. I got 1 kill with it, nobody even bothered to use it on me. It just about ties or does worse than the AR at close range, but that might be because of moving closer as the SMG fires means it was out of range at first, and the range is horribly short.DMR is meh, I don't care for it, but it's there and some people killed me with it, so I assume it's viable for something.Why the fuck do grenades kill me now? I got killed by 1 grenade, as a matter of fact, it killed me and a teammate both with full shields and health off spawn. Grenades never did this before, barely in CE and never in any other game.Why is the beta so small? Reach offered much more content than this, we have 2 power weapons, the Sword and the Sniper. Reach gave us the Rocket Launcher, Beam Rifle, Pro-Pipe, Sniper, Plasma Launcher, Energy Sword, Shotgun, do you get the point? Maybe it's because it's the first week, but we still had more the first week of Reach Beta, and not having a lot to playtest seems counter-productive, don't you think?=O Dude. the SMG is on the borderline of being a power weapon. It's got low auto aim for a reason. Why is the Beta so small though? Probably because we're roughly year out from launch, rather than Reach's Beta, which was 5 months from Launch. And I say roughly because we don't know the release date.Granted, the experience itself is heavily curated if you haven't noticed. It seems more that they're interested in balancing and testing the game itself instead of just the weapon sandbox. Which is indeed, why the Beta is so early, and can actually be considered a Beta. Also, did you by chance record you getting killed by the grenade? I've noted that standing directly on top of a live grenade in the game with full health on both accounts results in 100% depletion of the shields, and 50% depletion of direct health. Actually, it'd be best to record any moments you consider "bullshit", that way you actually have justified evidence from the game itself for 343i's consideration.
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on December 30, 2014, 09:03:51 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on December 30, 2014, 08:03:40 PMOkay, now that I've played here are my problems.SMG is pretty much useless. I got 1 kill with it, nobody even bothered to use it on me. It just about ties or does worse than the AR at close range, but that might be because of moving closer as the SMG fires means it was out of range at first, and the range is horribly short.DMR is meh, I don't care for it, but it's there and some people killed me with it, so I assume it's viable for something.Why the fuck do grenades kill me now? I got killed by 1 grenade, as a matter of fact, it killed me and a teammate both with full shields and health off spawn. Grenades never did this before, barely in CE and never in any other game.Why is the beta so small? Reach offered much more content than this, we have 2 power weapons, the Sword and the Sniper. Reach gave us the Rocket Launcher, Beam Rifle, Pro-Pipe, Sniper, Plasma Launcher, Energy Sword, Shotgun, do you get the point? Maybe it's because it's the first week, but we still had more the first week of Reach Beta, and not having a lot to playtest seems counter-productive, don't you think?=O Dude. the SMG is on the borderline of being a power weapon. It's got low auto aim for a reason. Why is the Beta so small though? Probably because we're roughly year out from launch, rather than Reach's Beta, which was 5 months from Launch. And I say roughly because we don't know the release date.Granted, the experience itself is heavily curated if you haven't noticed. It seems more that they're interested in balancing and testing the game itself instead of just the weapon sandbox. Which is indeed, why the Beta is so early, and can actually be considered a Beta. Also, did you by chance record you getting killed by the grenade? I've noted that standing directly on top of a live grenade in the game with full health on both accounts results in 100% depletion of the shields, and 50% depletion of direct health. Actually, it'd be best to record any moments you consider "bullshit", that way you actually have justified evidence from the game itself for 343i's consideration.Yeah, I don't believe that in the least. Fired at a guy who had an AR, we both started firing at the same time we tied. I didn't miss a shot. Unless I see something showing otherwise I don't believe it for a second.It's going to come out in November, and they've shown a lot of content that isn't in the Beta yet, and other gametypes shouldn't be far out. They should've prepared for the Beta and had ample content for people to test, we don't have that. It's a Beta for a reason, to test things, get feedback, and fix problems. All the stuff the Reach Beta had wasn't magically made in just those last few months, I've seen Halo PC map pack Betas with more content than this.It was the last game I played, does the game have theater? If not, then no. All I can tell you is that either he had the fucking Holy Hand Grenade, or the grenades in general are ridiculous. I'd guess the first, from what you said.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on December 30, 2014, 10:02:32 PMQuote from: Mr. Admirals on December 30, 2014, 09:03:51 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on December 30, 2014, 08:03:40 PMOkay, now that I've played here are my problems.SMG is pretty much useless. I got 1 kill with it, nobody even bothered to use it on me. It just about ties or does worse than the AR at close range, but that might be because of moving closer as the SMG fires means it was out of range at first, and the range is horribly short.DMR is meh, I don't care for it, but it's there and some people killed me with it, so I assume it's viable for something.Why the fuck do grenades kill me now? I got killed by 1 grenade, as a matter of fact, it killed me and a teammate both with full shields and health off spawn. Grenades never did this before, barely in CE and never in any other game.Why is the beta so small? Reach offered much more content than this, we have 2 power weapons, the Sword and the Sniper. Reach gave us the Rocket Launcher, Beam Rifle, Pro-Pipe, Sniper, Plasma Launcher, Energy Sword, Shotgun, do you get the point? Maybe it's because it's the first week, but we still had more the first week of Reach Beta, and not having a lot to playtest seems counter-productive, don't you think?=O Dude. the SMG is on the borderline of being a power weapon. It's got low auto aim for a reason. Why is the Beta so small though? Probably because we're roughly year out from launch, rather than Reach's Beta, which was 5 months from Launch. And I say roughly because we don't know the release date.Granted, the experience itself is heavily curated if you haven't noticed. It seems more that they're interested in balancing and testing the game itself instead of just the weapon sandbox. Which is indeed, why the Beta is so early, and can actually be considered a Beta. Also, did you by chance record you getting killed by the grenade? I've noted that standing directly on top of a live grenade in the game with full health on both accounts results in 100% depletion of the shields, and 50% depletion of direct health. Actually, it'd be best to record any moments you consider "bullshit", that way you actually have justified evidence from the game itself for 343i's consideration.Yeah, I don't believe that in the least. Fired at a guy who had an AR, we both started firing at the same time we tied. I didn't miss a shot. Unless I see something showing otherwise I don't believe it for a second.It's going to come out in November, and they've shown a lot of content that isn't in the Beta yet, and other gametypes shouldn't be far out. They should've prepared for the Beta and had ample content for people to test, we don't have that. It's a Beta for a reason, to test things, get feedback, and fix problems. All the stuff the Reach Beta had wasn't magically made in just those last few months, I've seen Halo PC map pack Betas with more content than this.It was the last game I played, does the game have theater? If not, then no. All I can tell you is that either he had the fucking Holy Hand Grenade, or the grenades in general are ridiculous. I'd guess the first, from what you said.The problem with building a game is that the development process doesn't center around building a public Beta.Dunno man. You sure you didn't miss a shot? Fire-rate is fast enough that you wouldn't see a lapse in the hit-markers.
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on December 30, 2014, 11:17:55 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on December 30, 2014, 10:02:32 PMQuote from: Mr. Admirals on December 30, 2014, 09:03:51 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on December 30, 2014, 08:03:40 PMOkay, now that I've played here are my problems.SMG is pretty much useless. I got 1 kill with it, nobody even bothered to use it on me. It just about ties or does worse than the AR at close range, but that might be because of moving closer as the SMG fires means it was out of range at first, and the range is horribly short.DMR is meh, I don't care for it, but it's there and some people killed me with it, so I assume it's viable for something.Why the fuck do grenades kill me now? I got killed by 1 grenade, as a matter of fact, it killed me and a teammate both with full shields and health off spawn. Grenades never did this before, barely in CE and never in any other game.Why is the beta so small? Reach offered much more content than this, we have 2 power weapons, the Sword and the Sniper. Reach gave us the Rocket Launcher, Beam Rifle, Pro-Pipe, Sniper, Plasma Launcher, Energy Sword, Shotgun, do you get the point? Maybe it's because it's the first week, but we still had more the first week of Reach Beta, and not having a lot to playtest seems counter-productive, don't you think?=O Dude. the SMG is on the borderline of being a power weapon. It's got low auto aim for a reason. Why is the Beta so small though? Probably because we're roughly year out from launch, rather than Reach's Beta, which was 5 months from Launch. And I say roughly because we don't know the release date.Granted, the experience itself is heavily curated if you haven't noticed. It seems more that they're interested in balancing and testing the game itself instead of just the weapon sandbox. Which is indeed, why the Beta is so early, and can actually be considered a Beta. Also, did you by chance record you getting killed by the grenade? I've noted that standing directly on top of a live grenade in the game with full health on both accounts results in 100% depletion of the shields, and 50% depletion of direct health. Actually, it'd be best to record any moments you consider "bullshit", that way you actually have justified evidence from the game itself for 343i's consideration.Yeah, I don't believe that in the least. Fired at a guy who had an AR, we both started firing at the same time we tied. I didn't miss a shot. Unless I see something showing otherwise I don't believe it for a second.It's going to come out in November, and they've shown a lot of content that isn't in the Beta yet, and other gametypes shouldn't be far out. They should've prepared for the Beta and had ample content for people to test, we don't have that. It's a Beta for a reason, to test things, get feedback, and fix problems. All the stuff the Reach Beta had wasn't magically made in just those last few months, I've seen Halo PC map pack Betas with more content than this.It was the last game I played, does the game have theater? If not, then no. All I can tell you is that either he had the fucking Holy Hand Grenade, or the grenades in general are ridiculous. I'd guess the first, from what you said.The problem with building a game is that the development process doesn't center around building a public Beta.Dunno man. You sure you didn't miss a shot? Fire-rate is fast enough that you wouldn't see a lapse in the hit-markers.It was point blank and he only weakly strafed.
Ground Slam Is easily my favorite ability that they have to offer. Not spammed too often, hard to use, and fun. At first I felt it was "too hard to use," but the more I thought about it the more I found that to be right. Nothing of that power should be easy, but when you do get it right with timing, and precision, it feels extremely rewarding. I love it.Charge: I find it easy and simple. I don't see a place for it out of how redundant it is, but it's a nice visual aesthetic for a melee.Thruster Pack: Would usually be something that I'd have an issue with, and for the most part I do find issues with it. A press of a button that can get you out of a scenario you brought yourself into more often than not would be shamed, but I feel it's more welcomed here than Halo 4's Thruster Pack. Solely being due to the fact that it's universal, and the maps are make it more often than not a problem if you do use it as an escape tool.Clamber: Something I'm not too fond of, because it seems to void any form of trick/skill jumps. Missed your jump? Just clamber up it. It feels more like a cater to the casual crowd more so than a competitive addition. That, and I can only see how much of the item count people are going to use when it comes to negating this thing.Smart Scope: You're already familiar with how I feel on this, seeing as how I put it in together with how I felt about weapons, so you can just use that for reference.Sprint: Oh boy, sprint. This is what I dislike the most about Halo 5. Too much fleeing. Way too much. Was an issue with Reach and still is with 5. Sprint is just something that shouldn't belong in a competitive shooter. Some will say that it's a "tactical withdrawal," but it's nothing more than a map stretching and escape artists tool. It's nice to see that they're looking for ways to negate this sort of behavior, but that's just the nature of this mechanic. That and it doesn't help that you can sprint forever. Not good.
Quote from: Sprungli on December 30, 2014, 05:23:06 PMQuote from: Sly Instinct on December 30, 2014, 04:54:48 PMQuote from: Sprungli on December 30, 2014, 04:05:10 PMQuote from: Prime Meridia on December 30, 2014, 03:47:17 PMOn a scale of Halo 4 to Halo 2, how is Halo 5's gameplay?Halo 2.75Only way you could compare it to H4 would be sprint's existence (which is a must really)Why?Why is it a must?Because Halo must have it, not necessarily because it's worse with no sprint-it isn't. Every other FPS has sprint,Copying what's popular is a petty reason to add a feature. With that same logic, why not remove shields too since every other modern game doesn't have shields? People expect games to have no shields, sprint, clamber, ADS, kill cams, and the screen to flash blood red when shot.Quoteit has gotten to the point where sprint is as core a control aspect as using the triggers to shoot is,That doesn't really make sense as an analogy, comparing the need for a popular mechanic with a button on a controller doing what it was designed to do.Quotethe MCC is living proof that the lack of sprint just feels very outdated-even without any knowledge it would be immediate despite no major graphical difference that H2A is a far older game than H4.Out of all the complaint threads on waypoint I haven't seen one complaining about any of the halo's playing slow. I've heard people on here and my myself voice Halo 3 feels slower than it should, but that's because Bungie lowered the field of view, decreased movement acceleration, and made it slower; something that could have been fixed in a newer release. Can you show me a poll or something besides personal opinion that people think H2A feels older than Halo 4?QuotePoint is it must retain sprint in order to stay relevant, the series must adapt.I'd rather Halo be a trend setter than trying to follow in the foot steps of every generic modern shooter. I've never heard any say "Man, I really wanted to by this game, but it didn't have sprint! Can you believe that? The game might as well be 20 years old. Forget everything else it offers.Quote Perhaps in 10 years not having sprint will be the norm, and I expect that if that happens 343 will drop sprint because it's not something expected of a modern game.So it's essentially a gimmick and 343 suffers from keeping up with Joneses. Play a few games of the beta without sprinting and see what you think of it.
Without sprinting in the beta you can survive, but your offensive capabilities are drastically handicapped.
Many other games have shields, Halo is far from an exception.
I'm forced to play Halo with those that are uninitiated, I have a lot of family and friends that either have no knowledge of Halo or extremely little knowledge. And those people struggle in H1-3, constantly moaning how there is no sprint, and about how much "better" every other FPS is because it includes it. That's the average gamer right now, that's 9/10 people, immediately when I reluctantly put H4 on instead suddenly i'm hearing things like "this game is amazing", purely because they can now sprint. And using Waypoint as an example is astonishingly stupid, they represent the 1%, and the site itself just wipes away any credibility.. You are using two Halo communities as an example, so the responses will naturally be biased towards hating sprint, and what i'm saying is that the majority of gamers see sprint as something essential in a modern FPS.
It was the last game I played, does the game have theater? If not, then no. All I can tell you is that either he had the fucking Holy Hand Grenade, or the grenades in general are ridiculous. I'd guess the first, from what you said.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on December 30, 2014, 10:02:32 PMIt was the last game I played, does the game have theater? If not, then no. All I can tell you is that either he had the fucking Holy Hand Grenade, or the grenades in general are ridiculous. I'd guess the first, from what you said.Grenades are certainly not OHK, but this can happen [getting shot while being naded makes it seem like one grenade killed you].
Quote from: GodspeedSnowjira! on December 31, 2014, 12:14:10 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on December 30, 2014, 10:02:32 PMIt was the last game I played, does the game have theater? If not, then no. All I can tell you is that either he had the fucking Holy Hand Grenade, or the grenades in general are ridiculous. I'd guess the first, from what you said.Grenades are certainly not OHK, but this can happen [getting shot while being naded makes it seem like one grenade killed you].Yep, you can shoot grenades. It's cool as shit is you know how to use it to your advantage
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on December 31, 2014, 02:01:21 AMQuote from: Mr. Admirals on December 30, 2014, 11:17:55 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on December 30, 2014, 10:02:32 PMQuote from: Mr. Admirals on December 30, 2014, 09:03:51 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on December 30, 2014, 08:03:40 PMOkay, now that I've played here are my problems.SMG is pretty much useless. I got 1 kill with it, nobody even bothered to use it on me. It just about ties or does worse than the AR at close range, but that might be because of moving closer as the SMG fires means it was out of range at first, and the range is horribly short.DMR is meh, I don't care for it, but it's there and some people killed me with it, so I assume it's viable for something.Why the fuck do grenades kill me now? I got killed by 1 grenade, as a matter of fact, it killed me and a teammate both with full shields and health off spawn. Grenades never did this before, barely in CE and never in any other game.Why is the beta so small? Reach offered much more content than this, we have 2 power weapons, the Sword and the Sniper. Reach gave us the Rocket Launcher, Beam Rifle, Pro-Pipe, Sniper, Plasma Launcher, Energy Sword, Shotgun, do you get the point? Maybe it's because it's the first week, but we still had more the first week of Reach Beta, and not having a lot to playtest seems counter-productive, don't you think?=O Dude. the SMG is on the borderline of being a power weapon. It's got low auto aim for a reason. Why is the Beta so small though? Probably because we're roughly year out from launch, rather than Reach's Beta, which was 5 months from Launch. And I say roughly because we don't know the release date.Granted, the experience itself is heavily curated if you haven't noticed. It seems more that they're interested in balancing and testing the game itself instead of just the weapon sandbox. Which is indeed, why the Beta is so early, and can actually be considered a Beta. Also, did you by chance record you getting killed by the grenade? I've noted that standing directly on top of a live grenade in the game with full health on both accounts results in 100% depletion of the shields, and 50% depletion of direct health. Actually, it'd be best to record any moments you consider "bullshit", that way you actually have justified evidence from the game itself for 343i's consideration.Yeah, I don't believe that in the least. Fired at a guy who had an AR, we both started firing at the same time we tied. I didn't miss a shot. Unless I see something showing otherwise I don't believe it for a second.It's going to come out in November, and they've shown a lot of content that isn't in the Beta yet, and other gametypes shouldn't be far out. They should've prepared for the Beta and had ample content for people to test, we don't have that. It's a Beta for a reason, to test things, get feedback, and fix problems. All the stuff the Reach Beta had wasn't magically made in just those last few months, I've seen Halo PC map pack Betas with more content than this.It was the last game I played, does the game have theater? If not, then no. All I can tell you is that either he had the fucking Holy Hand Grenade, or the grenades in general are ridiculous. I'd guess the first, from what you said.The problem with building a game is that the development process doesn't center around building a public Beta.Dunno man. You sure you didn't miss a shot? Fire-rate is fast enough that you wouldn't see a lapse in the hit-markers.It was point blank and he only weakly strafed.Lag then? Dunno man. I was shreking with the SMG today.
They managed to somehow remove options from customization for no reason. GG
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on December 29, 2014, 05:54:56 PMThey managed to somehow remove options from customization for no reason. GGBETABETACAN YOU SPELL BETA
Halo 5 MP First Impressions/Suggestions
