An if the game wasn't able to hit 60, that would do wonders more for bad press than removal of a feature that isn't vital.
Quote from: BaconShelf on August 09, 2015, 03:11:45 PMAn if the game wasn't able to hit 60, that would do wonders more for bad press than removal of a feature that isn't vital.But why did they not reserve 30 fps to split-screen? Its totally possible for a game to have separate frame-rates for separate modes. I think it wasn't a technical decision but either a design or a business one.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on August 09, 2015, 04:23:33 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on August 09, 2015, 03:11:45 PMAn if the game wasn't able to hit 60, that would do wonders more for bad press than removal of a feature that isn't vital.But why did they not reserve 30 fps to split-screen? Its totally possible for a game to have separate frame-rates for separate modes. I think it wasn't a technical decision but either a design or a business one.Apparently gameplay mechanics are tied to frames.
Quote from: LC on August 09, 2015, 04:38:41 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on August 09, 2015, 04:23:33 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on August 09, 2015, 03:11:45 PMAn if the game wasn't able to hit 60, that would do wonders more for bad press than removal of a feature that isn't vital.But why did they not reserve 30 fps to split-screen? Its totally possible for a game to have separate frame-rates for separate modes. I think it wasn't a technical decision but either a design or a business one.Apparently gameplay mechanics are tied to frames.Because tying game mechanics to 60 FPS never leads to any problems...rightYouTubeYouTube
apparently they went Japanese dev levels of retarded and tied game mechanics to frames
Quote from: McLemon on August 09, 2015, 11:23:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on August 09, 2015, 05:46:48 AMQuote from: McLemon on August 08, 2015, 08:14:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on August 08, 2015, 07:49:43 PMQuote from: McLemon on August 08, 2015, 05:58:52 PMQuote from: Cocos on August 08, 2015, 03:20:40 PMIsn't there just no split-screen co-op?no splitscreen. period.makes sense really. the xbone is weak as fuck, they want 60fps with big open areas (which would put a lot of strain on the console if it was splitscreen)and lots of things happening. there's no way that was gonna happen with splitscreen.So the franchise that made splitscreen popular isn't going to have splitscreen at all? Are you supposed to buy two Xbox Ones to play co op?unless they scale the game back in multiple ways (which they shouldn't), no, it's not"scale the game back"Uh. This is Halo. It's nothing without splitscreen. You might as well remove Matchmaking while you're at it.hampering a game to cater to a very small minority isn't a logical thing to dowhy do you care anyway? it's not like you have irl friends :^)Keep believing their bullshit. They can pull it off on Halo 3 on an older console and still make it look great but they have trouble doing it on a new console?It's not a minority. Halo is THE splitscreen game.
Quote from: challengerX on August 09, 2015, 05:46:48 AMQuote from: McLemon on August 08, 2015, 08:14:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on August 08, 2015, 07:49:43 PMQuote from: McLemon on August 08, 2015, 05:58:52 PMQuote from: Cocos on August 08, 2015, 03:20:40 PMIsn't there just no split-screen co-op?no splitscreen. period.makes sense really. the xbone is weak as fuck, they want 60fps with big open areas (which would put a lot of strain on the console if it was splitscreen)and lots of things happening. there's no way that was gonna happen with splitscreen.So the franchise that made splitscreen popular isn't going to have splitscreen at all? Are you supposed to buy two Xbox Ones to play co op?unless they scale the game back in multiple ways (which they shouldn't), no, it's not"scale the game back"Uh. This is Halo. It's nothing without splitscreen. You might as well remove Matchmaking while you're at it.hampering a game to cater to a very small minority isn't a logical thing to dowhy do you care anyway? it's not like you have irl friends :^)
Quote from: McLemon on August 08, 2015, 08:14:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on August 08, 2015, 07:49:43 PMQuote from: McLemon on August 08, 2015, 05:58:52 PMQuote from: Cocos on August 08, 2015, 03:20:40 PMIsn't there just no split-screen co-op?no splitscreen. period.makes sense really. the xbone is weak as fuck, they want 60fps with big open areas (which would put a lot of strain on the console if it was splitscreen)and lots of things happening. there's no way that was gonna happen with splitscreen.So the franchise that made splitscreen popular isn't going to have splitscreen at all? Are you supposed to buy two Xbox Ones to play co op?unless they scale the game back in multiple ways (which they shouldn't), no, it's not"scale the game back"Uh. This is Halo. It's nothing without splitscreen. You might as well remove Matchmaking while you're at it.
Quote from: challengerX on August 08, 2015, 07:49:43 PMQuote from: McLemon on August 08, 2015, 05:58:52 PMQuote from: Cocos on August 08, 2015, 03:20:40 PMIsn't there just no split-screen co-op?no splitscreen. period.makes sense really. the xbone is weak as fuck, they want 60fps with big open areas (which would put a lot of strain on the console if it was splitscreen)and lots of things happening. there's no way that was gonna happen with splitscreen.So the franchise that made splitscreen popular isn't going to have splitscreen at all? Are you supposed to buy two Xbox Ones to play co op?unless they scale the game back in multiple ways (which they shouldn't), no, it's not
Quote from: McLemon on August 08, 2015, 05:58:52 PMQuote from: Cocos on August 08, 2015, 03:20:40 PMIsn't there just no split-screen co-op?no splitscreen. period.makes sense really. the xbone is weak as fuck, they want 60fps with big open areas (which would put a lot of strain on the console if it was splitscreen)and lots of things happening. there's no way that was gonna happen with splitscreen.So the franchise that made splitscreen popular isn't going to have splitscreen at all? Are you supposed to buy two Xbox Ones to play co op?
Quote from: Cocos on August 08, 2015, 03:20:40 PMIsn't there just no split-screen co-op?no splitscreen. period.makes sense really. the xbone is weak as fuck, they want 60fps with big open areas (which would put a lot of strain on the console if it was splitscreen)and lots of things happening. there's no way that was gonna happen with splitscreen.
Isn't there just no split-screen co-op?
and yeah, splitscreen is a minority in comparison to the amount of people who play over xbl. times have changed, challenger.
Quote from: McLemon on August 09, 2015, 05:59:52 PMand yeah, splitscreen is a minority in comparison to the amount of people who play over xbl. times have changed, challenger.did you support the xbone's previous caveat of always having to be online, too?times are changing, after allanyone who doesn't already have an internet connection--you should just get with the times
there's really no excuse not to have splitscreen
the xbone is an underpoweredpiece of shit. the campaign will have large open areas, with lots of stuff happening, at 60fps.the game has already taken a hit graphically and in resolution because of this.
"shitty tech" isn't an excuse--there's no reason that the latest xbox shouldn't be the most powerful and capable of them all
their fault for deciding to make it that way
>60 fps>muh smooth movementshow much utility does that really have over getting to play games with your friends locally on one televisionliterally none
maybe having vast environments and "lots of stuff happening" really does take a toll on the xbone's processing even when disregarding the number of frames, but that's pretty pathetic if that's the case
If you really want to know more, go watch, like, any TotalBiscuit video, because he pretty much destroys any argument against having 60.
Quote from: McLemon on August 09, 2015, 05:59:52 PMQuote from: challengerX on August 09, 2015, 02:50:50 PMQuote from: McLemon on August 09, 2015, 11:23:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on August 09, 2015, 05:46:48 AMQuote from: McLemon on August 08, 2015, 08:14:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on August 08, 2015, 07:49:43 PMQuote from: McLemon on August 08, 2015, 05:58:52 PMQuote from: Cocos on August 08, 2015, 03:20:40 PMIsn't there just no split-screen co-op?no splitscreen. period.makes sense really. the xbone is weak as fuck, they want 60fps with big open areas (which would put a lot of strain on the console if it was splitscreen)and lots of things happening. there's no way that was gonna happen with splitscreen.So the franchise that made splitscreen popular isn't going to have splitscreen at all? Are you supposed to buy two Xbox Ones to play co op?unless they scale the game back in multiple ways (which they shouldn't), no, it's not"scale the game back"Uh. This is Halo. It's nothing without splitscreen. You might as well remove Matchmaking while you're at it.hampering a game to cater to a very small minority isn't a logical thing to dowhy do you care anyway? it's not like you have irl friends :^)Keep believing their bullshit. They can pull it off on Halo 3 on an older console and still make it look great but they have trouble doing it on a new console?It's not a minority. Halo is THE splitscreen game.it's not bullshit thoughthe xbone is an underpoweredpiece of shit. the campaign will have large open areas, with lots of stuff happening, at 60fps.the game has already taken a hit graphically and in resolution because of this.your comparison with halo 3 isn't valid either. it's a significantly less demanding game than h5 is, running at below 30fps and at 640p. it wasn't even that great looking either in comparison to halo 5 relative to the time it was released.but sure, it's total bullshit. definitely no technical reasoning behind any of it, and you obviously know what you're talkingabout (you don't, btw).and yeah, splitscreen is a minority in comparison to the amount of people who play over xbl. times have changed, challenger.Suck my dick Lemon. They can scale down the graphics. It can look like Minecraft as long as it's fun and there's splitscreen in the game that made splitscreen what it is.
Quote from: challengerX on August 09, 2015, 02:50:50 PMQuote from: McLemon on August 09, 2015, 11:23:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on August 09, 2015, 05:46:48 AMQuote from: McLemon on August 08, 2015, 08:14:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on August 08, 2015, 07:49:43 PMQuote from: McLemon on August 08, 2015, 05:58:52 PMQuote from: Cocos on August 08, 2015, 03:20:40 PMIsn't there just no split-screen co-op?no splitscreen. period.makes sense really. the xbone is weak as fuck, they want 60fps with big open areas (which would put a lot of strain on the console if it was splitscreen)and lots of things happening. there's no way that was gonna happen with splitscreen.So the franchise that made splitscreen popular isn't going to have splitscreen at all? Are you supposed to buy two Xbox Ones to play co op?unless they scale the game back in multiple ways (which they shouldn't), no, it's not"scale the game back"Uh. This is Halo. It's nothing without splitscreen. You might as well remove Matchmaking while you're at it.hampering a game to cater to a very small minority isn't a logical thing to dowhy do you care anyway? it's not like you have irl friends :^)Keep believing their bullshit. They can pull it off on Halo 3 on an older console and still make it look great but they have trouble doing it on a new console?It's not a minority. Halo is THE splitscreen game.it's not bullshit thoughthe xbone is an underpoweredpiece of shit. the campaign will have large open areas, with lots of stuff happening, at 60fps.the game has already taken a hit graphically and in resolution because of this.your comparison with halo 3 isn't valid either. it's a significantly less demanding game than h5 is, running at below 30fps and at 640p. it wasn't even that great looking either in comparison to halo 5 relative to the time it was released.but sure, it's total bullshit. definitely no technical reasoning behind any of it, and you obviously know what you're talkingabout (you don't, btw).and yeah, splitscreen is a minority in comparison to the amount of people who play over xbl. times have changed, challenger.
Quote from: McLemon on August 09, 2015, 07:19:49 PMbecause that'd sit well with everyone, wouldn't it?Spoilerhint: it wouldn't, at all. it'd hurt the game more than anythingthe graphics have already taken a hit to achieve what we've got.video games are a business, challenger, not a personal catering industry.am i happy that it's gone? no t really, but i understand why it's gone.Except splitscreen is a trademark of Halo. Far more than 60fps is. Nobody fucking cares about MUH ULTRA HD ALIEN HUNTING.
because that'd sit well with everyone, wouldn't it?Spoilerhint: it wouldn't, at all. it'd hurt the game more than anythingthe graphics have already taken a hit to achieve what we've got.video games are a business, challenger, not a personal catering industry.am i happy that it's gone? no t really, but i understand why it's gone.
Quote from: Josh55886 on August 09, 2015, 08:00:17 PMYou're fucking garbage.Fuck you bitch
You're fucking garbage.