Halo 5 Content Update 2 - Cartographer's Gift

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Bravo is always on /r/Halo, and he assures people that literally everything on that subreddit is read thoroughly, and they know what people are saying. I don't doubt that, because Bravo's a really good community manager, but I doubt 343 higher-ups actually listen to what he tells them.

"Okay Bravo, what's the feedback on the game?"

"Well, everyone says the core gameplay is really good. But they're disappointed with the lack of customs game options, gamemodes, map variety, and social playlists."

"Mmmm, okay. But we know better than them, so let's just keep doing what we're doing. We are the game designers, after all!"

"B-But the community says-"

"FUCK THE COMMUNITY. THE PEOPLE WANT REMIXES AND BREAKOUT."
Or, we can take the more logical route and realize these content updates have schedules that have been planned out, and they can't fuck over the schedules of nearly finished Content Updates to rush out what the community wants.

Or, 343 could have released a finished product in the first place with a substantial amount of content in it, rather than rushing it for muh Q4 release and then re-adding removed features (that should be standard) under the guise of free updates.
Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.


 
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Dude, they implemented a "FInd a Player" function months ago so you can access the file share of anyone you want.

Which is still vastly subpar to the systems of old.



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How can anybody be so baked as to actually defend 343's amount of content they shipped with Halo 5?


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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.


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Dude, they implemented a "FInd a Player" function months ago so you can access the file share of anyone you want.

Which is still vastly subpar to the systems of old.
The File Browser system was mostly filled with shit content. If I wanted the good gametypes, I just searched for the player who had them through the File Browser, which is identical to what I'm doing when I use the Find a Player function.

Besides, Bungie Favorites > File Browser.


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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.



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Dude, they implemented a "FInd a Player" function months ago so you can access the file share of anyone you want.

Which is still vastly subpar to the systems of old.
The File Browser system was mostly filled with shit content. If I wanted the good gametypes, I just searched for the player who had them through the File Browser, which is identical to what I'm doing when I use the Find a Player function.

Besides, Bungie Favorites > File Browser.

The old B.Net File browser shits on literally EVERYTHING 343 have done for fileshares. The fact that a youtube video of the map could just link you to the Map and game-type made the whole thing.


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Bravo is always on /r/Halo, and he assures people that literally everything on that subreddit is read thoroughly, and they know what people are saying. I don't doubt that, because Bravo's a really good community manager, but I doubt 343 higher-ups actually listen to what he tells them.

"Okay Bravo, what's the feedback on the game?"

"Well, everyone says the core gameplay is really good. But they're disappointed with the lack of customs game options, gamemodes, map variety, and social playlists."

"Mmmm, okay. But we know better than them, so let's just keep doing what we're doing. We are the game designers, after all!"

"B-But the community says-"

"FUCK THE COMMUNITY. THE PEOPLE WANT REMIXES AND BREAKOUT."
Or, we can take the more logical route and realize these content updates have schedules that have been planned out, and they can't fuck over the schedules of nearly finished Content Updates to rush out what the community wants.

Or, 343 could have released a finished product in the first place with a substantial amount of content in it, rather than rushing it for muh Q4 release and then re-adding removed features (that should be standard) under the guise of free updates.
Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

If that were the case, why did they launch with a lack of content? 3 warzone maps, each using the same copypasted bases and what amounts to five arena maps, not including lolremixes and lolforgemaps (Because all the remixes play more or less the same as their base maps, and all the breakout maps only exist in one mode), is not acceptable for a game in 2015.



 
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Dude, they implemented a "FInd a Player" function months ago so you can access the file share of anyone you want.

Which is still vastly subpar to the systems of old.
The File Browser system was mostly filled with shit content.

Opinions.

Ideally, they could have just created a decent UI for multiplayer loading screens where you could click and see other players file shares like every other game, along with enhancing more search options.

Instead, we got...whatever the hell they did. It's 2015 people, can we not design a functional and appealing UI?



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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.
The extent of Halo 5's content is pathetic. Everybody knows it. Stop trying to defend 343.

They bullshitted us by arguing that "Remixes" were total maps, and they had the fucking autism to say the same about Forge maps. They're stupid, stupid people.


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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.

You're not seriously suggesting they thought releasing a game with less content than destiny at launch was a 10/10 idea?

When I buy a game, I expect a completed product at launch. Not six months later.


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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.

You're not seriously suggesting they thought releasing a game with less content than destiny at launch was a 10/10 idea?

When I buy a game, I expect a completed product at launch. Not six months later.
Maybe you should've done research into the game before you bought it then? Not my fault or concern you're assmad.


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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.
The extent of Halo 5's content is pathetic. Everybody knows it. Stop trying to defend 343.

They bullshitted us by arguing that "Remixes" were total maps, and they had the fucking autism to say the same about Forge maps. They're stupid, stupid people.
Are you fucking retarded?

When have I defended the lack of content in the game? All I've been doing is seeing all of your logically fallacious "facts" of why the game is in the state it is and trying to correct that hate-blinded shit.

Everyone on this site gets triggered soooooo easily.


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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.

You're not seriously suggesting they thought releasing a game with less content than destiny at launch was a 10/10 idea?

When I buy a game, I expect a completed product at launch. Not six months later.
Maybe you should've done research into the game before you bought it then? Not my fault or concern you're assmad.


I guess it's my own fault for assuming 21 multiplayer maps means 21 individual maps. Or for thinking the game would have some incentive to play other than grinding for scout warthogs.


 
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I see this is becoming heated >.>

GG, don't make me bring in the hammer.


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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.

You're not seriously suggesting they thought releasing a game with less content than destiny at launch was a 10/10 idea?

When I buy a game, I expect a completed product at launch. Not six months later.
Maybe you should've done research into the game before you bought it then? Not my fault or concern you're assmad.


I guess it's my own fault for assuming 21 multiplayer maps means 21 individual maps. Or for thinking the game would have some incentive to play other than grinding for scout warthogs.
Well, yeah.

After Halo 4, everyone seemed to vow to never again buy into Halo blindly.

Well, here we are at Halo 5, and look what's happened.


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I see this is becoming heated >.>

GG, don't make me bring in the hammer.
I've acquired a complete disregard in the rules as making this thread is causing me to remember why I stopped coming to this site.


 
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I see this is becoming heated >.>

GG, don't make me bring in the hammer.
I've acquired a complete disregard in the rules as making this thread is causing me to remember why I stopped coming to this site.

Differing opinions are lovely.

Maybe take a stroll to Serious or Flood.


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I see this is becoming heated >.>

GG, don't make me bring in the hammer.
I've acquired a complete disregard in the rules as making this thread is causing me to remember why I stopped coming to this site.

Differing opinions are lovely.

Maybe take a stroll to Serious or Flood.
Maybe you haven't been reading the thread, but differing opinions isn't exactly what's caused this argument.


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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.

You're not seriously suggesting they thought releasing a game with less content than destiny at launch was a 10/10 idea?

When I buy a game, I expect a completed product at launch. Not six months later.
Maybe you should've done research into the game before you bought it then? Not my fault or concern you're assmad.


I guess it's my own fault for assuming 21 multiplayer maps means 21 individual maps. Or for thinking the game would have some incentive to play other than grinding for scout warthogs.
Well, yeah.

After Halo 4, everyone seemed to vow to never again buy into Halo blindly.

Well, here we are at Halo 5, and look what's happened.

I never did that, though. After halo 4, I thought 343 were a good studio. But I guess schlerf leaving and a new attitude to make the game only ranked has made 343 very different from the people who made 4.


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"You are young. I am old. I am dead."
Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.

You're not seriously suggesting they thought releasing a game with less content than destiny at launch was a 10/10 idea?

When I buy a game, I expect a completed product at launch. Not six months later.
Maybe you should've done research into the game before you bought it then? Not my fault or concern you're assmad.


I guess it's my own fault for assuming 21 multiplayer maps means 21 individual maps. Or for thinking the game would have some incentive to play other than grinding for scout warthogs.
Well, yeah.

After Halo 4, everyone seemed to vow to never again buy into Halo blindly.

Well, here we are at Halo 5, and look what's happened.

I never did that, though. After halo 4, I thought 343 were a good studio. But I guess schlerf leaving and a new attitude to make the game only ranked has made 343 very different from the people who made 4.
Throughout Halo 5's development in the past year, 343i's been continually stating that they never want Halo 4 to happen again.


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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.

You're not seriously suggesting they thought releasing a game with less content than destiny at launch was a 10/10 idea?

When I buy a game, I expect a completed product at launch. Not six months later.
Maybe you should've done research into the game before you bought it then? Not my fault or concern you're assmad.


I guess it's my own fault for assuming 21 multiplayer maps means 21 individual maps. Or for thinking the game would have some incentive to play other than grinding for scout warthogs.
Well, yeah.

After Halo 4, everyone seemed to vow to never again buy into Halo blindly.

Well, here we are at Halo 5, and look what's happened.

I never did that, though. After halo 4, I thought 343 were a good studio. But I guess schlerf leaving and a new attitude to make the game only ranked has made 343 very different from the people who made 4.
Throughout Halo 5's development in the past year, 343i's been continually stating that they never want Halo 4 to happen again.
Good for them, they made even worse decisions with Halo 5  : )


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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.

You're not seriously suggesting they thought releasing a game with less content than destiny at launch was a 10/10 idea?

When I buy a game, I expect a completed product at launch. Not six months later.
Maybe you should've done research into the game before you bought it then? Not my fault or concern you're assmad.


I guess it's my own fault for assuming 21 multiplayer maps means 21 individual maps. Or for thinking the game would have some incentive to play other than grinding for scout warthogs.
Well, yeah.

After Halo 4, everyone seemed to vow to never again buy into Halo blindly.

Well, here we are at Halo 5, and look what's happened.

I never did that, though. After halo 4, I thought 343 were a good studio. But I guess schlerf leaving and a new attitude to make the game only ranked has made 343 very different from the people who made 4.
Throughout Halo 5's development in the past year, 343i's been continually stating that they never want Halo 4 to happen again.

I presumed that meant catering to all the community. Not just one segment of it.


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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.

You're not seriously suggesting they thought releasing a game with less content than destiny at launch was a 10/10 idea?

When I buy a game, I expect a completed product at launch. Not six months later.
Maybe you should've done research into the game before you bought it then? Not my fault or concern you're assmad.


I guess it's my own fault for assuming 21 multiplayer maps means 21 individual maps. Or for thinking the game would have some incentive to play other than grinding for scout warthogs.
Well, yeah.

After Halo 4, everyone seemed to vow to never again buy into Halo blindly.

Well, here we are at Halo 5, and look what's happened.

I never did that, though. After halo 4, I thought 343 were a good studio. But I guess schlerf leaving and a new attitude to make the game only ranked has made 343 very different from the people who made 4.

I mean Jeez as much of a disaster as the Master Chief Collection was at least they got the damn ranking system in terms of having competitive and social right in that game. What the hell made them them into such Nazis about ranks? When they added infection to MCC matchmaking they didn't rank it.


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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.

You're not seriously suggesting they thought releasing a game with less content than destiny at launch was a 10/10 idea?

When I buy a game, I expect a completed product at launch. Not six months later.
Maybe you should've done research into the game before you bought it then? Not my fault or concern you're assmad.


I guess it's my own fault for assuming 21 multiplayer maps means 21 individual maps. Or for thinking the game would have some incentive to play other than grinding for scout warthogs.
Well, yeah.

After Halo 4, everyone seemed to vow to never again buy into Halo blindly.

Well, here we are at Halo 5, and look what's happened.

I never did that, though. After halo 4, I thought 343 were a good studio. But I guess schlerf leaving and a new attitude to make the game only ranked has made 343 very different from the people who made 4.
Throughout Halo 5's development in the past year, 343i's been continually stating that they never want Halo 4 to happen again.
Good for them, they made even worse decisions with Halo 5  : )
Yet you managed to make an equally bad decision by buying Halo 4 and then Halo 5.

Let the hate flow through you...


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"You are young. I am old. I am dead."
Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.

You're not seriously suggesting they thought releasing a game with less content than destiny at launch was a 10/10 idea?

When I buy a game, I expect a completed product at launch. Not six months later.
Maybe you should've done research into the game before you bought it then? Not my fault or concern you're assmad.


I guess it's my own fault for assuming 21 multiplayer maps means 21 individual maps. Or for thinking the game would have some incentive to play other than grinding for scout warthogs.
Well, yeah.

After Halo 4, everyone seemed to vow to never again buy into Halo blindly.

Well, here we are at Halo 5, and look what's happened.

I never did that, though. After halo 4, I thought 343 were a good studio. But I guess schlerf leaving and a new attitude to make the game only ranked has made 343 very different from the people who made 4.

I mean Jeez as much of a disaster as the Master Chief Collection was at least they got the damn ranking system in terms of having competitive and social right in that game. What the hell made them them into such Nazis about ranks? When they added infection to MCC matchmaking they didn't rank it.
Because 343i has multiple dev teams, and COMPLETELY separate dev teams at 343i made the MCC and Halo 5.


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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.

You're not seriously suggesting they thought releasing a game with less content than destiny at launch was a 10/10 idea?

When I buy a game, I expect a completed product at launch. Not six months later.
Maybe you should've done research into the game before you bought it then? Not my fault or concern you're assmad.


I guess it's my own fault for assuming 21 multiplayer maps means 21 individual maps. Or for thinking the game would have some incentive to play other than grinding for scout warthogs.
Well, yeah.

After Halo 4, everyone seemed to vow to never again buy into Halo blindly.

Well, here we are at Halo 5, and look what's happened.

I never did that, though. After halo 4, I thought 343 were a good studio. But I guess schlerf leaving and a new attitude to make the game only ranked has made 343 very different from the people who made 4.
Throughout Halo 5's development in the past year, 343i's been continually stating that they never want Halo 4 to happen again.

I presumed that meant catering to all the community. Not just one segment of it.

I mean to be fair I kinda saw it coming with how hard they were trying to cram E-Sports up everyone's ass with both Halo 5 and MCCs promotions, but they still managed to go far more overboard than I expected.


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Or, we can realize this content model was planned from the beginning and wasn't done to reach a Q4 release.

Scenario 1: What you're saying is false:

Then 343 rushed the game.

Scenario 2: What you're saying is true.

Then they are fucking idiots.
Yes, because in the real world there are only two possible scenarios and if people don't cater to your every need, they are idiots.

You're not seriously suggesting they thought releasing a game with less content than destiny at launch was a 10/10 idea?

When I buy a game, I expect a completed product at launch. Not six months later.
Maybe you should've done research into the game before you bought it then? Not my fault or concern you're assmad.


I guess it's my own fault for assuming 21 multiplayer maps means 21 individual maps. Or for thinking the game would have some incentive to play other than grinding for scout warthogs.
Well, yeah.

After Halo 4, everyone seemed to vow to never again buy into Halo blindly.

Well, here we are at Halo 5, and look what's happened.

I never did that, though. After halo 4, I thought 343 were a good studio. But I guess schlerf leaving and a new attitude to make the game only ranked has made 343 very different from the people who made 4.
Throughout Halo 5's development in the past year, 343i's been continually stating that they never want Halo 4 to happen again.
Good for them, they made even worse decisions with Halo 5  : )
Yet you managed to make an equally bad decision by buying Halo 4 and then Halo 5.

Let the hate flow through you...
Oh my God

343 literally lied about the content in this game

Don't try to defend them. You can't. They're morons.