Exhibit A:

Observe this image of UNSC forces engaging in combat. This is a typical scene, that is repeated throughout innumerable UNSC theatres of war.



Exhibit B:

Here we see a recreation of the pivotal moment that occured at the height of humanities darkest hour: The Covenant invasion of Earth. We see that the infamous saviour of our species, Master Chief Petty Officer John-117, has been temporarily overwhelmed by a force of the alien Jiralhanae.
I draw your attention to the weapon that the Jiralhanae Chiefton has claimed and raises to indicate that now victory will belong to the Covenant; he does this because of the overwhelming power and inspiring symbolic presence that the weapon possesses. The weapon will assure their victory.



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There was no assault rifle in halo 2.

There was no assault rifle in halo 2.

There was no assault rifle in Halo 2.



Instead there was this pansy-ass little 'brrt brrt brrt' gun.

And so my hate for the battle rifle was born. Although I forgave the SMG.

The second picture is from Halo 3.

Soz fam, you have made big failure.

I didn't say that the image was from Halo 2. The first image isn't from halo 2 either. The images relate to the text.

So, the Assault Rifle got just as much use as if it had been included in the game.

Incorrect. If the MA5B had of been included in Halo 2 it would have continued to be the main weapon. You see, the MA5B features a 60 round magazine. In order to remove a problem, one simply faces the MA5B towards it and begins to discharge 60 bullets, continuing until the problem is resolved to the players satisfaction.

I used to do legendary runs of CE armed with only a plasma pistol and my MA5B. There is nothing you can't do with such a beastly weapon.

Incorrect. If the MA5B had of been included in Halo 2 it would have continued to be the main weapon. You see, the MA5B features a 60 round magazine. In order to remove a problem, one simply faces the MA5B towards it and begins to discharge 60 bullets, continuing until the problem is resolved to the players satisfaction.

I used to do legendary runs of CE armed with only a plasma pistol and my MA5B. There is nothing you can't do with such a beastly weapon.

The SMG serves practically the same purpose in terms of damage, accuracy and magazine size, on top of the option of dual wielding.

That's like saying that a knife is as good as a sword.

In the case of a Sword being a Knife in all but name, I think it's an acceptable comparison. If anything, the Halo 2 SMG is a slightly improved CE Assault Rifle, as it's more accurate under sustained fire, can carry slightly more ammo with the triple wield glitch, and is capable of doing significantly more damage thanks to dual wielding. It still serves best when spraying at max RoF at close range, like its predecessor.

Quote from: Elegiac on September 29, 2015, 08:32:19 AM

That's like saying that a knife is as good as a sword.

In the case of a Sword being a Knife in all but name, I think it's an acceptable comparison. If anything, the Halo 2 SMG is a slightly improved CE Assault Rifle, as it's more accurate under sustained fire, can carry slightly more ammo with the triple wield glitch, and is capable of doing significantly more damage thanks to dual wielding. It still serves best when spraying at max RoF at close range, like its predecessor.

The MA5B can comfortably be put to any use outside of CQC. It can be used to snipe enemies at a distance, or destroy enemy vehicles, for example. I've never seen the smg perform to this standard of one-size-fits-all excellence.

stop

I don't think I'm gonna add this to the reviews thread, though. <_<

But he's clearly super serious though. Why are you so rude Verb ugh.

Did you play much online?  I think you'd appreciate the BR more if you did frequently.

Did you play much online?  I think you'd appreciate the BR more if you did frequently.

Because it's the only fucking useful weapon in the multiplayer

There's no point picking up power weapons because the BR just out-guns literally everything

Quote from: Coco on September 29, 2015, 11:13:42 AM

Did you play much online?  I think you'd appreciate the BR more if you did frequently.

Because it's the only fucking useful weapon in the multiplayer

There's no point picking up power weapons because the BR just out-guns literally everything

What is a skill gap?

I'd be okay with rewarding an automatic weapon that is actually hard to aim, but that's never existed: guns like the AR do the aiming for you.  Why should that be rewarded?

BRs don't outgun rocket launchers, swords, shotguns, etc... just incompetent people with rocket launchers, swords, shotguns, etc... The BR is a central weapon, but you're exaggerating how powerful it is.

I'm not denying that autos were shit.  They were, but they had a purpose.

BR dominated CQC because of a bug (BxR).  Ignoring that, the BR was still viable at CQC, but it was not hard to get a cheap kill with a mindless CQC gun + a melee in H2 and H3: you don't remember the shitstorm on forums about how annoying auto + melee death charges were to people? 

And even then, it didn't trump CQC power weapons: you're either playing against gods, or playing ass-backwards and expecting people to generously bend over, if you can't manage to rake in kills with a shotgun or sword.  And if you're missing rockets constantly, and not aiming for the feet, then you're using the gun completely wrong.

The BR's downside is how much more difficult it was/is to operate in comparison to any of the other primary weapons.  It'd be like the bloom issue x10 if the meta favored such mindless weapons with tiny skill gaps over the risk vs reward ones, because the "skill-based" gameplay would revolve around abusing inconsistent spread on an impossible-to-miss weapon with impossible-to-dodge magnet-bullets.

The best call Halo 5 made was reducing the aim assist on the AR: I think they could have taken it further, though.  The solution is in making the automatics more viable, but less braindead-friendly.

Verb you should review Halo 2.

I'd be curious to see how you'd compare Halo CE's nonexistent narrative with Halo 2's, uh, actual narrative.

Quote from: Citrus Snake on September 29, 2015, 09:01:09 AM

Have you actually even played any Halo game?
Every iteration of the AR has been a tickle gun.

I thought the Halo 5 one was supposed to be good?

games that have been released

>.>

the h5 version is actually useful