Quote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:01:40 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 03:58:33 PMLol, someone missed out on Reach MP. lol someone is wrongQuoteAlso, remember the difference between FACT and OPINION, it's your OPINION that it wasn't fun, it's FACT that a lot of people did enjoy Reach, it's your OPINION how historically important it is, and it's my OPINION that CE is the worst Halo. It's your OPINION that is exactly oppositeThinking Reach is good invalidates your opinions.Sorry.Thinking CE is good invalidates your opinions.Sorry
Quote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 03:58:33 PMLol, someone missed out on Reach MP. lol someone is wrongQuoteAlso, remember the difference between FACT and OPINION, it's your OPINION that it wasn't fun, it's FACT that a lot of people did enjoy Reach, it's your OPINION how historically important it is, and it's my OPINION that CE is the worst Halo. It's your OPINION that is exactly oppositeThinking Reach is good invalidates your opinions.Sorry.
Lol, someone missed out on Reach MP.
Also, remember the difference between FACT and OPINION, it's your OPINION that it wasn't fun, it's FACT that a lot of people did enjoy Reach, it's your OPINION how historically important it is, and it's my OPINION that CE is the worst Halo. It's your OPINION that is exactly opposite
The rest of what you referred to is once again, fucking subjective.
Screw that.If people wanted to play a good halo game, just play the MCC. ¾ of the games are actually cool to enjoy.
Quote from: RadicalClass32 on January 07, 2015, 04:38:08 PMScrew that.If people wanted to play a good halo game, just play the MCC. ¾ of the games are actually cool to enjoy.IKR? Halo 3 is pretty rubbish though, innit?
Quote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:39:56 PMQuote from: RadicalClass32 on January 07, 2015, 04:38:08 PMScrew that.If people wanted to play a good halo game, just play the MCC. ¾ of the games are actually cool to enjoy.IKR? Halo 3 is pretty rubbish though, innit?In my opinion also: Yeah it was a little rubbish.But hey, that's why H2 and CE are also there, amirite?
Quote from: RadicalClass32 on January 07, 2015, 04:42:25 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:39:56 PMQuote from: RadicalClass32 on January 07, 2015, 04:38:08 PMScrew that.If people wanted to play a good halo game, just play the MCC. ¾ of the games are actually cool to enjoy.IKR? Halo 3 is pretty rubbish though, innit?In my opinion also: Yeah it was a little rubbish.But hey, that's why H2 and CE are also there, amirite?CE, 2 and 4.
Quote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 09:35:52 AMA re-master could be okay for soon, but no re-makes until 2020, 10 years is how long it should be, no more no less.It should get neither. Bad games don't deserve re-releases or remakes.
A re-master could be okay for soon, but no re-makes until 2020, 10 years is how long it should be, no more no less.
You actually don't like Reach? Huh
but you prefer Halo 4 the most right?
Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 07, 2015, 05:04:23 PMYou actually don't like Reach? HuhWhat gave you that idea?Quotebut you prefer Halo 4 the most right?No.And I only like Halo 4 as I do because it has one of the better campaigns/stories in the franchise.
Quote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 05:07:36 PMQuote from: Rocketman287 on January 07, 2015, 05:04:23 PMYou actually don't like Reach? HuhWhat gave you that idea?Quotebut you prefer Halo 4 the most right?No.And I only like Halo 4 as I do because it has one of the better campaigns/stories in the franchise.The next question I suppose, would be which Halo is your favorite multiplayer wise?
Quote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 04:05:09 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:01:40 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 03:58:33 PMLol, someone missed out on Reach MP. lol someone is wrongQuoteAlso, remember the difference between FACT and OPINION, it's your OPINION that it wasn't fun, it's FACT that a lot of people did enjoy Reach, it's your OPINION how historically important it is, and it's my OPINION that CE is the worst Halo. It's your OPINION that is exactly oppositeThinking Reach is good invalidates your opinions.Sorry.Thinking CE is good invalidates your opinions.SorryIt doesn't work like that, mate. Sorry.It's riddled with terrible shit.
Quote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:18:11 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 04:05:09 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:01:40 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 03:58:33 PMLol, someone missed out on Reach MP. lol someone is wrongQuoteAlso, remember the difference between FACT and OPINION, it's your OPINION that it wasn't fun, it's FACT that a lot of people did enjoy Reach, it's your OPINION how historically important it is, and it's my OPINION that CE is the worst Halo. It's your OPINION that is exactly oppositeThinking Reach is good invalidates your opinions.Sorry.Thinking CE is good invalidates your opinions.SorryIt doesn't work like that, mate. Sorry.It's riddled with terrible shit.Yes, CE is indeed
Quote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 05:52:15 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:18:11 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 04:05:09 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:01:40 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 03:58:33 PMLol, someone missed out on Reach MP. lol someone is wrongQuoteAlso, remember the difference between FACT and OPINION, it's your OPINION that it wasn't fun, it's FACT that a lot of people did enjoy Reach, it's your OPINION how historically important it is, and it's my OPINION that CE is the worst Halo. It's your OPINION that is exactly oppositeThinking Reach is good invalidates your opinions.Sorry.Thinking CE is good invalidates your opinions.SorryIt doesn't work like that, mate. Sorry.It's riddled with terrible shit.Yes, CE is indeedCE doesn't have a shit riddled campaign or MP.Try again
Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 04:02:32 PMThe rest of what you referred to is once again, fucking subjective.Umm, no.The lack of plot and characterisation is objective.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 04:02:32 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 03:59:20 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 03:51:57 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 03:50:06 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 03:47:28 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 02:49:10 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 02:45:08 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 01:25:36 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 12:52:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 09:36:45 AMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 09:35:52 AMA re-master could be okay for soon, but no re-makes until 2020, 10 years is how long it should be, no more no less.It should get neither. Bad games don't deserve re-releases or remakes.Then why did they release Halo CEA?Because CE is a good game with a good campaign that has a good consistent plot and story throughout the whole campaign, doesn't shit on already existing canon, doesn't have terribly written characters and doesn't consist of a brown and grey colour pallet.The gameplay is a little dated, but it still plays well.Reach on the other hand...Actually CE was essentially just your generic alien shoot em up plotline, with a slight twist to it. Not saying Reach's narrative was stellar, but as far as sophistication goes, CE was pretty simple. As for characters there's literally like a grand total of 6. I'm not counting Johnson because he wasn't established as a character at that point. So yeah, I wouldn't necessarily say CE has an excellent array of characters either.I don't deny that Reach was a disappointment, but you nostalgia fags really need to take of the goggles.I'm not basing any of this on nostalgia.CE is literally leaps and bounds ahead of Reach in terms of quality, story (regardless of it not being that original) and characters.SubjectivitySubjectivity is the condition of being a subject: i.e., the quality of possessing perspectives, experiences, feelings, beliefs, desires,[1] and/or power. Subjectivity is used as an explanation for what influences and informs people's judgments about truth or reality. It is the collection of the perceptions, experiences, expectations, personal or cultural understanding, and beliefs specific to a person. It is often used in contrast to the term objectivity,[1] which is described as a view of truth or reality which is free of any individual's influence.>implying Reach isn't objectively shitObjectively it's a very well designed game in terms of functionality.Things like plot, characterisation, enjoyability and whether it's better than CE or not is within the realms of subjectivity.This forum really needs a crash course on these two terms.You need a course that teaches you that the internet is srs bsns.It's not a well designed game because AAs, bloom, sword block, terrible AI, and it's shitty maps exist.Plot is objectively shit considering there isn't one until the last couple missions.Characterisation is objectively shit considering it's pretty much entirely non-existent.For fuck sake lemon.When I said functionality, what I was referring to is if the game is objectively playable. And by that I mean whether it doesn't lag, glitch or become unresponsive during play time. Since Reach doesn't fall under any of those categories, and generally doesn't face any severe technical difficulties as a whole, it is objectively a well crafted game, in technical terms.The rest of what you referred to is once again, fucking subjective.well, reach had a fair amount of connection problems due to the p2p system. not nearly as bad as h3, but networking issues happened frequently enough to be a legitimate problem with the game. forge world maps are also notorious for bad frame drops. so, there are some objective issues with the game's functionality.i'd also like to mention how horribly optimized it was in terms of competitive balance, but competitive play isn't everyones cup of tea so that isnt necessarily an objective problem.
Quote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 03:59:20 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 03:51:57 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 03:50:06 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 03:47:28 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 02:49:10 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 02:45:08 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 01:25:36 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 12:52:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 09:36:45 AMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 09:35:52 AMA re-master could be okay for soon, but no re-makes until 2020, 10 years is how long it should be, no more no less.It should get neither. Bad games don't deserve re-releases or remakes.Then why did they release Halo CEA?Because CE is a good game with a good campaign that has a good consistent plot and story throughout the whole campaign, doesn't shit on already existing canon, doesn't have terribly written characters and doesn't consist of a brown and grey colour pallet.The gameplay is a little dated, but it still plays well.Reach on the other hand...Actually CE was essentially just your generic alien shoot em up plotline, with a slight twist to it. Not saying Reach's narrative was stellar, but as far as sophistication goes, CE was pretty simple. As for characters there's literally like a grand total of 6. I'm not counting Johnson because he wasn't established as a character at that point. So yeah, I wouldn't necessarily say CE has an excellent array of characters either.I don't deny that Reach was a disappointment, but you nostalgia fags really need to take of the goggles.I'm not basing any of this on nostalgia.CE is literally leaps and bounds ahead of Reach in terms of quality, story (regardless of it not being that original) and characters.SubjectivitySubjectivity is the condition of being a subject: i.e., the quality of possessing perspectives, experiences, feelings, beliefs, desires,[1] and/or power. Subjectivity is used as an explanation for what influences and informs people's judgments about truth or reality. It is the collection of the perceptions, experiences, expectations, personal or cultural understanding, and beliefs specific to a person. It is often used in contrast to the term objectivity,[1] which is described as a view of truth or reality which is free of any individual's influence.>implying Reach isn't objectively shitObjectively it's a very well designed game in terms of functionality.Things like plot, characterisation, enjoyability and whether it's better than CE or not is within the realms of subjectivity.This forum really needs a crash course on these two terms.You need a course that teaches you that the internet is srs bsns.It's not a well designed game because AAs, bloom, sword block, terrible AI, and it's shitty maps exist.Plot is objectively shit considering there isn't one until the last couple missions.Characterisation is objectively shit considering it's pretty much entirely non-existent.For fuck sake lemon.When I said functionality, what I was referring to is if the game is objectively playable. And by that I mean whether it doesn't lag, glitch or become unresponsive during play time. Since Reach doesn't fall under any of those categories, and generally doesn't face any severe technical difficulties as a whole, it is objectively a well crafted game, in technical terms.The rest of what you referred to is once again, fucking subjective.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 03:51:57 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 03:50:06 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 03:47:28 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 02:49:10 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 02:45:08 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 01:25:36 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 12:52:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 09:36:45 AMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 09:35:52 AMA re-master could be okay for soon, but no re-makes until 2020, 10 years is how long it should be, no more no less.It should get neither. Bad games don't deserve re-releases or remakes.Then why did they release Halo CEA?Because CE is a good game with a good campaign that has a good consistent plot and story throughout the whole campaign, doesn't shit on already existing canon, doesn't have terribly written characters and doesn't consist of a brown and grey colour pallet.The gameplay is a little dated, but it still plays well.Reach on the other hand...Actually CE was essentially just your generic alien shoot em up plotline, with a slight twist to it. Not saying Reach's narrative was stellar, but as far as sophistication goes, CE was pretty simple. As for characters there's literally like a grand total of 6. I'm not counting Johnson because he wasn't established as a character at that point. So yeah, I wouldn't necessarily say CE has an excellent array of characters either.I don't deny that Reach was a disappointment, but you nostalgia fags really need to take of the goggles.I'm not basing any of this on nostalgia.CE is literally leaps and bounds ahead of Reach in terms of quality, story (regardless of it not being that original) and characters.SubjectivitySubjectivity is the condition of being a subject: i.e., the quality of possessing perspectives, experiences, feelings, beliefs, desires,[1] and/or power. Subjectivity is used as an explanation for what influences and informs people's judgments about truth or reality. It is the collection of the perceptions, experiences, expectations, personal or cultural understanding, and beliefs specific to a person. It is often used in contrast to the term objectivity,[1] which is described as a view of truth or reality which is free of any individual's influence.>implying Reach isn't objectively shitObjectively it's a very well designed game in terms of functionality.Things like plot, characterisation, enjoyability and whether it's better than CE or not is within the realms of subjectivity.This forum really needs a crash course on these two terms.You need a course that teaches you that the internet is srs bsns.It's not a well designed game because AAs, bloom, sword block, terrible AI, and it's shitty maps exist.Plot is objectively shit considering there isn't one until the last couple missions.Characterisation is objectively shit considering it's pretty much entirely non-existent.
Quote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 03:50:06 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 03:47:28 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 02:49:10 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 02:45:08 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 01:25:36 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 12:52:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 09:36:45 AMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 09:35:52 AMA re-master could be okay for soon, but no re-makes until 2020, 10 years is how long it should be, no more no less.It should get neither. Bad games don't deserve re-releases or remakes.Then why did they release Halo CEA?Because CE is a good game with a good campaign that has a good consistent plot and story throughout the whole campaign, doesn't shit on already existing canon, doesn't have terribly written characters and doesn't consist of a brown and grey colour pallet.The gameplay is a little dated, but it still plays well.Reach on the other hand...Actually CE was essentially just your generic alien shoot em up plotline, with a slight twist to it. Not saying Reach's narrative was stellar, but as far as sophistication goes, CE was pretty simple. As for characters there's literally like a grand total of 6. I'm not counting Johnson because he wasn't established as a character at that point. So yeah, I wouldn't necessarily say CE has an excellent array of characters either.I don't deny that Reach was a disappointment, but you nostalgia fags really need to take of the goggles.I'm not basing any of this on nostalgia.CE is literally leaps and bounds ahead of Reach in terms of quality, story (regardless of it not being that original) and characters.SubjectivitySubjectivity is the condition of being a subject: i.e., the quality of possessing perspectives, experiences, feelings, beliefs, desires,[1] and/or power. Subjectivity is used as an explanation for what influences and informs people's judgments about truth or reality. It is the collection of the perceptions, experiences, expectations, personal or cultural understanding, and beliefs specific to a person. It is often used in contrast to the term objectivity,[1] which is described as a view of truth or reality which is free of any individual's influence.>implying Reach isn't objectively shitObjectively it's a very well designed game in terms of functionality.Things like plot, characterisation, enjoyability and whether it's better than CE or not is within the realms of subjectivity.This forum really needs a crash course on these two terms.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 03:47:28 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 02:49:10 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 02:45:08 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 01:25:36 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 12:52:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 09:36:45 AMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 09:35:52 AMA re-master could be okay for soon, but no re-makes until 2020, 10 years is how long it should be, no more no less.It should get neither. Bad games don't deserve re-releases or remakes.Then why did they release Halo CEA?Because CE is a good game with a good campaign that has a good consistent plot and story throughout the whole campaign, doesn't shit on already existing canon, doesn't have terribly written characters and doesn't consist of a brown and grey colour pallet.The gameplay is a little dated, but it still plays well.Reach on the other hand...Actually CE was essentially just your generic alien shoot em up plotline, with a slight twist to it. Not saying Reach's narrative was stellar, but as far as sophistication goes, CE was pretty simple. As for characters there's literally like a grand total of 6. I'm not counting Johnson because he wasn't established as a character at that point. So yeah, I wouldn't necessarily say CE has an excellent array of characters either.I don't deny that Reach was a disappointment, but you nostalgia fags really need to take of the goggles.I'm not basing any of this on nostalgia.CE is literally leaps and bounds ahead of Reach in terms of quality, story (regardless of it not being that original) and characters.SubjectivitySubjectivity is the condition of being a subject: i.e., the quality of possessing perspectives, experiences, feelings, beliefs, desires,[1] and/or power. Subjectivity is used as an explanation for what influences and informs people's judgments about truth or reality. It is the collection of the perceptions, experiences, expectations, personal or cultural understanding, and beliefs specific to a person. It is often used in contrast to the term objectivity,[1] which is described as a view of truth or reality which is free of any individual's influence.>implying Reach isn't objectively shit
Quote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 02:49:10 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 02:45:08 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 01:25:36 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 12:52:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 09:36:45 AMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 09:35:52 AMA re-master could be okay for soon, but no re-makes until 2020, 10 years is how long it should be, no more no less.It should get neither. Bad games don't deserve re-releases or remakes.Then why did they release Halo CEA?Because CE is a good game with a good campaign that has a good consistent plot and story throughout the whole campaign, doesn't shit on already existing canon, doesn't have terribly written characters and doesn't consist of a brown and grey colour pallet.The gameplay is a little dated, but it still plays well.Reach on the other hand...Actually CE was essentially just your generic alien shoot em up plotline, with a slight twist to it. Not saying Reach's narrative was stellar, but as far as sophistication goes, CE was pretty simple. As for characters there's literally like a grand total of 6. I'm not counting Johnson because he wasn't established as a character at that point. So yeah, I wouldn't necessarily say CE has an excellent array of characters either.I don't deny that Reach was a disappointment, but you nostalgia fags really need to take of the goggles.I'm not basing any of this on nostalgia.CE is literally leaps and bounds ahead of Reach in terms of quality, story (regardless of it not being that original) and characters.SubjectivitySubjectivity is the condition of being a subject: i.e., the quality of possessing perspectives, experiences, feelings, beliefs, desires,[1] and/or power. Subjectivity is used as an explanation for what influences and informs people's judgments about truth or reality. It is the collection of the perceptions, experiences, expectations, personal or cultural understanding, and beliefs specific to a person. It is often used in contrast to the term objectivity,[1] which is described as a view of truth or reality which is free of any individual's influence.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 02:45:08 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 01:25:36 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 12:52:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 09:36:45 AMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 09:35:52 AMA re-master could be okay for soon, but no re-makes until 2020, 10 years is how long it should be, no more no less.It should get neither. Bad games don't deserve re-releases or remakes.Then why did they release Halo CEA?Because CE is a good game with a good campaign that has a good consistent plot and story throughout the whole campaign, doesn't shit on already existing canon, doesn't have terribly written characters and doesn't consist of a brown and grey colour pallet.The gameplay is a little dated, but it still plays well.Reach on the other hand...Actually CE was essentially just your generic alien shoot em up plotline, with a slight twist to it. Not saying Reach's narrative was stellar, but as far as sophistication goes, CE was pretty simple. As for characters there's literally like a grand total of 6. I'm not counting Johnson because he wasn't established as a character at that point. So yeah, I wouldn't necessarily say CE has an excellent array of characters either.I don't deny that Reach was a disappointment, but you nostalgia fags really need to take of the goggles.I'm not basing any of this on nostalgia.CE is literally leaps and bounds ahead of Reach in terms of quality, story (regardless of it not being that original) and characters.
Quote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 01:25:36 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 12:52:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 09:36:45 AMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 09:35:52 AMA re-master could be okay for soon, but no re-makes until 2020, 10 years is how long it should be, no more no less.It should get neither. Bad games don't deserve re-releases or remakes.Then why did they release Halo CEA?Because CE is a good game with a good campaign that has a good consistent plot and story throughout the whole campaign, doesn't shit on already existing canon, doesn't have terribly written characters and doesn't consist of a brown and grey colour pallet.The gameplay is a little dated, but it still plays well.Reach on the other hand...Actually CE was essentially just your generic alien shoot em up plotline, with a slight twist to it. Not saying Reach's narrative was stellar, but as far as sophistication goes, CE was pretty simple. As for characters there's literally like a grand total of 6. I'm not counting Johnson because he wasn't established as a character at that point. So yeah, I wouldn't necessarily say CE has an excellent array of characters either.I don't deny that Reach was a disappointment, but you nostalgia fags really need to take of the goggles.
Quote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 12:52:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 09:36:45 AMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 09:35:52 AMA re-master could be okay for soon, but no re-makes until 2020, 10 years is how long it should be, no more no less.It should get neither. Bad games don't deserve re-releases or remakes.Then why did they release Halo CEA?Because CE is a good game with a good campaign that has a good consistent plot and story throughout the whole campaign, doesn't shit on already existing canon, doesn't have terribly written characters and doesn't consist of a brown and grey colour pallet.The gameplay is a little dated, but it still plays well.Reach on the other hand...
Quote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 09:36:45 AMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 09:35:52 AMA re-master could be okay for soon, but no re-makes until 2020, 10 years is how long it should be, no more no less.It should get neither. Bad games don't deserve re-releases or remakes.Then why did they release Halo CEA?
Quote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 04:02:32 PMThe rest of what you referred to is once again, fucking subjective.Umm, no.The lack of plot and characterisation is objective.Umm no.Your interpretation of plot and characterisation is subjective. There are no guidelines for what constitutes as a masterpiece in narrative and story telling.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 06:01:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 04:02:32 PMThe rest of what you referred to is once again, fucking subjective.Umm, no.The lack of plot and characterisation is objective.Umm no.Your interpretation of plot and characterisation is subjective. There are no guidelines for what constitutes as a masterpiece in narrative and story telling.How is the lack of something subjective?If it doesn't exist then it can't be subjective.
Quote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 06:06:13 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 06:01:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 04:02:32 PMThe rest of what you referred to is once again, fucking subjective.Umm, no.The lack of plot and characterisation is objective.Umm no.Your interpretation of plot and characterisation is subjective. There are no guidelines for what constitutes as a masterpiece in narrative and story telling.How is the lack of something subjective?If it doesn't exist then it can't be subjective.One example.God
Quote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 06:06:13 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 06:01:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 04:02:32 PMThe rest of what you referred to is once again, fucking subjective.Umm, no.The lack of plot and characterisation is objective.Umm no.Your interpretation of plot and characterisation is subjective. There are no guidelines for what constitutes as a masterpiece in narrative and story telling.How is the lack of something subjective?If it doesn't exist then it can't be subjective.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo:_Reach#PlotQuite a substantial paragraph there m9.Seriously, if you want to attack the artistic merit of the plot on the basis OF YOUR OPINION, that's fine. But stop acting like it's objectively bad. I don't think you even know what objectivity is.
Quote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 06:08:45 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 06:06:13 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 06:01:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 04:02:32 PMThe rest of what you referred to is once again, fucking subjective.Umm, no.The lack of plot and characterisation is objective.Umm no.Your interpretation of plot and characterisation is subjective. There are no guidelines for what constitutes as a masterpiece in narrative and story telling.How is the lack of something subjective?If it doesn't exist then it can't be subjective.One example.GodTotally different.No evidence to prove he exists, therefore can't be proven to not exist.Halo Reach can be proven to not exist by playing the game.
Halo Reach can be proven to not exist by playing the game.
Quote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 06:12:27 PMQuote from: Sprungli on January 07, 2015, 06:08:45 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 06:06:13 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 06:01:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 04:02:32 PMThe rest of what you referred to is once again, fucking subjective.Umm, no.The lack of plot and characterisation is objective.Umm no.Your interpretation of plot and characterisation is subjective. There are no guidelines for what constitutes as a masterpiece in narrative and story telling.How is the lack of something subjective?If it doesn't exist then it can't be subjective.One example.GodTotally different.No evidence to prove he exists, therefore can't be proven to not exist.Halo Reach can be proven to not exist by playing the game.QuoteHalo Reach can be proven to not exist by playing the game.Making as much sense as a creationist right now
Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 06:09:04 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 06:06:13 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 06:01:53 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on January 07, 2015, 04:20:57 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 07, 2015, 04:02:32 PMThe rest of what you referred to is once again, fucking subjective.Umm, no.The lack of plot and characterisation is objective.Umm no.Your interpretation of plot and characterisation is subjective. There are no guidelines for what constitutes as a masterpiece in narrative and story telling.How is the lack of something subjective?If it doesn't exist then it can't be subjective.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo:_Reach#PlotQuite a substantial paragraph there m9.Seriously, if you want to attack the artistic merit of the plot on the basis OF YOUR OPINION, that's fine. But stop acting like it's objectively bad. I don't think you even know what objectivity is.That's a small and symple synopsis of what Halo is about and where the game is set.Reach itself has no plot until the last two levels.
but a plot it did have, nonetheless.Stop being an autist.
>There are people that want Halo Reach Anniversary
