But none of them matter in the end
>Not siding for an independent New Vegas
Quote from: Prime Quinx on August 17, 2015, 10:51:01 AM>Not siding for an independent New Vegas>opting for an even worse anarchic dystopiaAt least with the Legion you get some semblance of hierarchical order, despite them being the shittiest faction to choose.
>giving all power to a technophile psychotic recluse
Quote from: oss on August 17, 2015, 10:47:56 AMBut none of them matter in the endIn a way. NCR is going to start falling apart at any minute from over-expansion. The Legion will lose direction after Caesar dies. House can last indefinitely, but that's assuming his plan to land on a heavenly body in the next 100 years works; otherwise, he'll end up stagnating too. Independent New Vegas can last as long as you can hold it.
Quote from: I regret participating on August 17, 2015, 10:56:08 AMQuote from: Prime Quinx on August 17, 2015, 10:51:01 AM>Not siding for an independent New Vegas>opting for an even worse anarchic dystopiaAt least with the Legion you get some semblance of hierarchical order, despite them being the shittiest faction to choose.Pls, my 10 Int 10 Cha Courier will easily run New Vegas free of social destruction. Courier doesn't necessarily run New Vegas, but if he tells somebody to do something they should probably do it if they know what's good for them.
Quote from: Prime Quinx on August 17, 2015, 10:59:32 AMQuote from: I regret participating on August 17, 2015, 10:56:08 AMQuote from: Prime Quinx on August 17, 2015, 10:51:01 AM>Not siding for an independent New Vegas>opting for an even worse anarchic dystopiaAt least with the Legion you get some semblance of hierarchical order, despite them being the shittiest faction to choose.Pls, my 10 Int 10 Cha Courier will easily run New Vegas free of social destruction. Courier doesn't necessarily run New Vegas, but if he tells somebody to do something they should probably do it if they know what's good for them.Wouldn't independence leave NV with a massive power gap when the courier kicks the bucket? At least with House you get a decent chance of a civilised Vegas for longer than a couple decades.Besides, who would the Courier delegate responsibilities to?
Quote from: I regret participating on August 17, 2015, 11:02:54 AMQuote from: Prime Quinx on August 17, 2015, 10:59:32 AMQuote from: I regret participating on August 17, 2015, 10:56:08 AMQuote from: Prime Quinx on August 17, 2015, 10:51:01 AM>Not siding for an independent New Vegas>opting for an even worse anarchic dystopiaAt least with the Legion you get some semblance of hierarchical order, despite them being the shittiest faction to choose.Pls, my 10 Int 10 Cha Courier will easily run New Vegas free of social destruction. Courier doesn't necessarily run New Vegas, but if he tells somebody to do something they should probably do it if they know what's good for them.Wouldn't independence leave NV with a massive power gap when the courier kicks the bucket? At least with House you get a decent chance of a civilised Vegas for longer than a couple decades.Besides, who would the Courier delegate responsibilities to?How long the Courier has is dependent on how old you make him, and the NCR/Legion both have similar/the same problem. House and Independence are the only two real options for sustaining the Strip. The difference is that House is, while an economic genius, also possibly psychotic and too narrow viewed for the Wasteland. He's still stuck in the Old World. Because of that, if his ship plan doesn't work, it will be obvious that he can't truly grasp the situation anymore.Independent New Vegas, I assume, would have another strong person take over the Courier's role as a protector and advisor. On delegation of responsibility, that would probably depend on the player's Karma.
Plus I don't consider Karma and gameplay factors to have a role in this, canonically speaking.
Quote from: I regret participating on August 17, 2015, 11:23:54 AMPlus I don't consider Karma and gameplay factors to have a role in this, canonically speaking.For any ending other than Yes Man, I'd agree. But considering that the fate of New Vegas lies with the kind of person the Courier is in Independence, the Courier's Karma definitely matters. Hell, in the bad karma ending for House, Mr. House let's the Courier do whatever he wants because he's afraid of him.
the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
Quote from: Prime Quinx on August 17, 2015, 10:55:31 AMQuote from: oss on August 17, 2015, 10:47:56 AMBut none of them matter in the endIn a way. NCR is going to start falling apart at any minute from over-expansion. The Legion will lose direction after Caesar dies. House can last indefinitely, but that's assuming his plan to land on a heavenly body in the next 100 years works; otherwise, he'll end up stagnating too. Independent New Vegas can last as long as you can hold it.That's a shit excuse. You could get overrun easily.
A reminder that Obsidian didn't let NCR and Brotherhood of Steel get along because they'd think players would choose that path over all else.
Quote from: Luciana on August 17, 2015, 12:49:07 PMA reminder that Obsidian didn't let NCR and Brotherhood of Steel get along because they'd think players would choose that path over all else.But they can though... at a slight cost to your reputation with the NCR, but it can be done.You mean siding with House? He's the only one who actually has no option to side with the Brotherhood (apart from I assume the Legion, who are just shit).Anywho, I've always had a bad feeling about Mr House. He virtually ruled pre-war America what with his technology industry so I'm surprised he didn't join up with the Enclave when it decided to go like Poseidon Energy and other undisclosed parties (...or perhaps he did and distanced himself, I dunno). Now that he survived the Great War, he wants to rule post-war America too, although in the short term he's only concerned with New Vegas and the surrounding area.That just screams hidden evil at me.
Quote from: SuperIrish on August 17, 2015, 01:27:42 PMQuote from: Luciana on August 17, 2015, 12:49:07 PMA reminder that Obsidian didn't let NCR and Brotherhood of Steel get along because they'd think players would choose that path over all else.But they can though... at a slight cost to your reputation with the NCR, but it can be done.You mean siding with House? He's the only one who actually has no option to side with the Brotherhood (apart from I assume the Legion, who are just shit).Anywho, I've always had a bad feeling about Mr House. He virtually ruled pre-war America what with his technology industry so I'm surprised he didn't join up with the Enclave when it decided to go like Poseidon Energy and other undisclosed parties (...or perhaps he did and distanced himself, I dunno). Now that he survived the Great War, he wants to rule post-war America too, although in the short term he's only concerned with New Vegas and the surrounding area.That just screams hidden evil at me.Well, House was only active in the years since the first NCR scouts arrived. I think it's implied he was in some kind of stasis in the intervening 200 years. Because organising the Families, sending out the Securitrons, sealing off the Strip from Outer Vegas and so forth only occurred around the time the NCR got to the Mojave.
But they can though... at a slight cost to your reputation with the NCR, but it can be done.You mean siding with House? He's the only one who actually has no option to side with the Brotherhood (apart from I assume the Legion, who are just shit).Anywho, I've always had a bad feeling about Mr House. He virtually ruled pre-war America what with his technology industry so I'm surprised he didn't join up with the Enclave when it decided to go like Poseidon Energy and other undisclosed parties (...or perhaps he did and distanced himself, I dunno). Now that he survived the Great War, he wants to rule post-war America too, although in the short term he's only concerned with New Vegas and the surrounding area.That just screams hidden evil at me.
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