Gaylo 5 is Rated T

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · August 06, 2015, 03:22:38 PM

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Verbatim · August 06, 2015, 05:47:08 PM

Quote from: challengerX on August 06, 2015, 04:29:53 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 06, 2015, 03:15:55 PM
Quote from: Dragonic Overlord on August 06, 2015, 02:00:40 PM
Halo has nothing worse that Metroid Prime yet one is rated M and the other is T. And E10 was such a contrivance.
Well, Halo also has cursing and (obviously) more realistic, mature themes. Not to mention real guns.
Yeah like the plasma rifle

"durr, it has some fake guns, therefore it has no real guns"

Pistol.
Shotgun.
Rocket launcher.
Sniper rifle.

Metroid has 0 real guns. Because it's a fucking kid's game.

challengerX · August 06, 2015, 05:49:58 PM

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Verbatim · August 06, 2015, 05:52:34 PM

That's because you're a piece of shit.

The Waifu Master · August 06, 2015, 07:48:28 PM

I'm jejing irl right now

BaconShelf · August 07, 2015, 03:11:58 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 06, 2015, 03:15:55 PM

Quote from: Dragonic Overlord on August 06, 2015, 02:00:40 PM
Halo has nothing worse that Metroid Prime yet one is rated M and the other is T. And E10 was such a contrivance.
Well, Halo also has cursing and (obviously) more realistic, mature themes. Not to mention real guns.

It doesn't have real guns. And most of Halo's mature theming comes from the expanded universe material, not the games.

R o c k e t · August 07, 2015, 03:17:22 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 06, 2015, 05:52:34 PM

That's because you're a piece of shit.

I laughed at this, probably shouldn't have.

But I did.

Deleted · August 07, 2015, 06:18:10 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 06, 2015, 03:15:55 PM

Quote from: Dragonic Overlord on August 06, 2015, 02:00:40 PM
Halo has nothing worse that Metroid Prime yet one is rated M and the other is T. And E10 was such a contrivance.
Well, Halo also has cursing and (obviously) more realistic, mature themes. Not to mention real guns.

There was a swear in the initial release of prime 3 that got censored out in the Trillogy version.

And literaly not a single gun from Halo is real, or even behaves realistically. Go to any gun store and ask for an MA37 and see how fast they scratch their heads or laugh at you

And you must not have read the lore entries in Prime 2, because that gets pretty damn dark, like a woman letting both herself and her own child STARVE TO DEATH out of dedication to their fight., not to mention these lore entries are found ON THE CORPSES lying all around the planet in plain sight.

Quote from: Verbatim on August 06, 2015, 05:47:08 PM

Quote from: challengerX on August 06, 2015, 04:29:53 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on August 06, 2015, 03:15:55 PM
Quote from: Dragonic Overlord on August 06, 2015, 02:00:40 PM
Halo has nothing worse that Metroid Prime yet one is rated M and the other is T. And E10 was such a contrivance.
Well, Halo also has cursing and (obviously) more realistic, mature themes. Not to mention real guns.
Yeah like the plasma rifle
Metroid has no real guns Because it's a fucking kid's game.

what you speak is hersey

and of we count that Other game then you are plain wrong...but let's not get into that.

challengerX · August 07, 2015, 06:21:12 AM

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Verbatim · August 07, 2015, 08:25:41 AM

Quote from: BaconShelf on August 07, 2015, 03:11:58 AM

It doesn't have real guns. And most of Halo's mature theming comes from the expanded universe material, not the games.

Pretty sure pistols and shotguns are real.

BaconShelf · August 07, 2015, 08:43:39 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 07, 2015, 08:25:41 AM

Quote from: BaconShelf on August 07, 2015, 03:11:58 AM
It doesn't have real guns. And most of Halo's mature theming comes from the expanded universe material, not the games.
Pretty sure pistols and shotguns are real.

Star Wars Battlefront had sniper rifles, shotguns, rocket launchers, rifles and pistols. I guess that should have been 18+ then.

Verbatim · August 07, 2015, 08:48:28 AM

M is not 18+. It's 17+.

And that's an easy one to refute just because Battlefront's violence is squeaky clean. No blood whatsoever.

Verbatim · August 07, 2015, 09:00:03 AM

Quote from: Dragonic Overlord on August 07, 2015, 06:18:10 AM

There was a swear in the initial release of prime 3 that got censored out in the Trillogy version.

Well, there you go, it got censored out of the Trilogy version. And it was one swear, right? They probably didn't catch it at first, and definitely would have censored it initially if they did. Meanwhile, Halo has cursing all over the place. I mean, it's no GTA, and I don't think they ever say fuck, but still.

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And literaly not a single gun from Halo is real, or even behaves realistically. Go to any gun store and ask for an MA37 and see how fast they scratch their heads or laugh at you

Pistols and shotguns and snipers are very real. They all fire lead bullets at high velocity. Shotguns in particular behave as realistically as they ought to.

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And you must not have read the lore entries in Prime 2, because that gets pretty damn dark, like a woman letting both herself and her own child STARVE TO DEATH out of dedication to their fight., not to mention these lore entries are found ON THE CORPSES lying all around the planet in plain sight.

I haven't played all of the Prime 2, to be honest, but here's the thing--the folks at ESRB just play the games. They aren't given every single one of the game's assets so that they can all be weighed individually--and that includes any in-game text. They're pretty thorough, but they're gonna miss some stuff. Like, in Klonoa 2, there's a part where a character uses the word "damn"--twice, and nowhere is this mentioned on the back of the box. BUT, it's also towards the very end of the game, so... It's easy to contrive that they just missed it.

And that was probably the case here. Not to mention, actual imagery is a lot more powerful and M-worthy than just lore text. It's more viscerally scary to witness scary shit than to hear about scary shit. So I I'm just saying--given the choice between having my kid play Metroid Prime and having them play Halo? I'm gonna let them play Metroid Prime.

it helps that metroid prime is the better game overall

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what you speak is hersey
and of we count that Other game then you are plain wrong...but let's not get into that.

I'm just saaaaaaaying

Nintendo makes kids game. They're kinda known for that.
I don't really include Other M, because everything about that game was wrong anyway.

BaconShelf · August 07, 2015, 09:02:17 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 07, 2015, 08:48:28 AM

M is not 18+. It's 17+.

And that's an easy one to refute just because Battlefront's violence is squeaky clean. No blood whatsoever.

I'm in Britain, so it uses 3+, 7+, 12+, 16+ and 18+. Halo is a 16 but modern warfare shooters are rated 18 here.

But it's science fiction. The halo games have never been gritty like CoD, Battlefield or Gears. They've always been rather tame, for a modern shooter. I mean, if a few red pixels is what should classify making games only accessible to late-teens, I guess every film where a character has a nosebleed or cuts his leg should be as well.

Verbatim · August 07, 2015, 09:11:03 AM

Quote from: BaconShelf on August 07, 2015, 09:02:17 AM

I'm in Britain, so it uses 3+, 7+, 12+, 16+ and 18+. Halo is a 16 but modern warfare shooters are rated 18 here.

But it's science fiction. The halo games have never been gritty like CoD, Battlefield or Gears. They've always been rather tame, for a modern shooter. I mean, if a few red pixels is what should classify making games only accessible to late-teens, I guess every film where a character has a nosebleed or cuts his leg should be as well.

The conversation isn't about making things "only accessible" to late-teens, but whatever. I've stated numerous times that I have no interest in preventing anyone from anything--except for my own kids, if I deem it necessary.

Anyway, you're being intentionally obtuse here. You fail to account for the fact that there's a difference between a common nosebleed or a small laceration and painting the walls after getting shot. It's kinda in its own category of violence.

I will say that Halo reaches, in my mind, the bare minimum of arbitrary requirements to achieve the M-rating. It's not the most M-worthy game in the pantheon of M-rated games, but in my mind, it's a far better candidate for the M than any counterexamples any of you have come up with so far. Metroid and Battlefront? Please.

Deleted · August 07, 2015, 09:48:44 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 07, 2015, 09:00:03 AM

it helps that metroid prime is the better game overall

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Bith Metroid and Halo do alot of thing well, and I love them both equaly. Halo is more of a combat oriented game especialy in a competitive scene abd tells a bit more character driven story while Metroid focuses more on the aspect of exploration and discovery and has a far mor subtle way of telling its story than Halo. Both have aspects of each other I realy dont thing there is an objective answer to if one or the other is beter or worse, just what you prefer, and you dont seem to be very much into the more combat oriented shooters.

Girl of Mystery · August 07, 2015, 10:20:45 AM

"Your Father was a filthy colo and your mother was a hole in the wall"
Someone is dropping dope insults in H5.

It also appears there'll be human enemies, according to the H5 ESRB page. Innies maybe?

Spartan · August 07, 2015, 10:33:15 AM

Quote from: McLemon on August 07, 2015, 10:20:45 AM

"Your Father was a filthy colo and your mother was a hole in the wall"
Someone is dropping dope insults in H5.

It also appears there'll be human enemies, according to the H5 ESRB page. Innies maybe?

You fight Marine AI in Warzone

Deleted · August 07, 2015, 10:34:49 AM

Quote from: McLemon on August 07, 2015, 10:20:45 AM

"Your Father was a filthy colo and your mother was a hole in the wall"
Someone is dropping dope insults in H5.

It also appears there'll be human enemies, according to the H5 ESRB page. Innies maybe?

“I have copulated...with your genetic progenitors!”

Oh boy. I cant wait to hear these ingame.

CyberGama · August 07, 2015, 11:42:36 AM

lol, why was it M rated anyways. lol whatever.

Girl of Mystery · August 07, 2015, 11:56:09 AM

Quote from: Gama Ray on August 07, 2015, 11:42:36 AM

lol, why was it M rated anyways. lol whatever.

Halo 4 undoubtedly got an M because of this

And Halo 1-3 because of The Flood, and being able to decapitate infected marines and stuff.
ODST was super tame. No reason for an M rating.

True Turquoise · August 07, 2015, 12:05:00 PM

Didn't ODST get the M because of the engineers?

Blowing up and all that?

Verbatim · August 07, 2015, 12:41:37 PM

Spoiler

- Blood
- Language
- Violence

Mattie G Indahouse · August 08, 2015, 08:29:59 PM

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Quote from: Majestic Star Dragon on August 04, 2015, 07:34:19 PM
Why was it even rated M in the first place?
Flood gore.

There's gore in Star Wars Republic Commando and that game is rated T.

Verbatim · August 08, 2015, 09:55:01 PM

It's probably not as graphic.

Why is it so difficult to comprehend that this isn't black and white. Some gore is M-tier, others it T-tier.

Sandtrap · August 08, 2015, 10:44:52 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 08, 2015, 09:55:01 PM

It's probably not as graphic.

Why is it so difficult to comprehend that this isn't black and white. Some gore is M-tier, others it T-tier.

Geonosians(Bug aliens) expired or exploded into bits and pieces of limbs and parts.

Droids also got dismembered into parts which were equally just as messy as an organic cause they left oil everywhere.

Seems pretty on par with Flood bits to me.

Verbatim · August 08, 2015, 11:03:31 PM

Not to me. The Flood is known for being, I don't know, "scary"? Geonosians aren't.

And no, there's absolutely nothing graphic about oil, at all.

Jono · August 09, 2015, 01:06:20 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 08, 2015, 11:03:31 PM

Not to me. The Flood is known for being, I don't know, "scary"? Geonosians aren't.

The Geonosians are pretty freaky if you look past the games and movies.

An episode of The Clone Wars series, the Geonosian Queen was putting these worm-like creatures into Geonosians that made them act like zombies. Their arms and legs would get decapitated by lightsabers and blaster shots and they wouldn't die.

Mattie G Indahouse · August 09, 2015, 06:49:17 AM

Quote from: Jono on August 09, 2015, 01:06:20 AM

the Geonosian Queen

For a kids show that thing is horror movie level creepy looking.

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