god bless you, flee

Quote from: Ossus on July 19, 2017, 06:43:33 PM

Quote from: Prehistoric on July 19, 2017, 06:05:33 PM

Quote from: Ossus on July 19, 2017, 05:57:51 PM

just so i have some peace of mind, build me a rig that will cost the same with double the power please

Very similar build sporting DDR3, a slight downstep with monetary advantages (especially in this performance range) one more full sized PCIe slot, and an 8-core CPU that I recently installed in a friend's PC (he likes it a lot, it's better than the Core i5 Black I swear by), and a Radeon RX 460 4GB I found priced at 120 CAD (no price population on pcpartpicker since Radeon is flying off the shelves)

CPU comes with a cooler which I have had hands on experience with and can verify it works very well so long as you don't overclock, the case includes a 200mm fan at the front, which creates ample airflow in the cuboid form. Paired with the dual onboard GPU fans you should have no trouble keeping air moving through the case.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Solonoid/saved/ZyyvK8

The final price of this miniature monster is ~603 CAD, and allows four slots to upgrade your RAM if you decide to buy more later.

I see what you're saying, but the AMD is a much older and more outdated CPU with barely better (and often worse) performance for gaming due to much faster single cores and hyperthreading in the Pentium. And while it may come with a cooler of its own, I'd still recommend a proven brand name especially since he's in a hot environment. The motherboard may offer an extra PCIe slot and more RAM space, but it only works with older RAM and doesn't support anything other than DDR3. As far as GPU's go (which will be the most important part for him by far), the 1050ti comes in at up to 35% faster than the 460.

I agree with what you said in your later post about getting more out of a PC, but I think that for what he had in mind, his build is probably going to perform better for gaming. You can debate about things like the motherboard and importance of the added cores in the CPU, but this is definitely not twice the performance at the same price. For things like video games, it's probably going to perform even worse.

Also, where did you find that GPU for $120 CAD? I haven't found a single store that has it in stock under $200+.

Ryzen 5 1500X comes in at the same price point as the 8350, with decidedly better performance, but  I don't know a lot about AM4 motherboards, and wasn't comfortable recommending one.

Obviously, I'm not claiming to have created the end all be all of budget builds, but something with more versatile usability than what I see there.

And yeah, I rarely approach builds with a gaming-centric mindset, but it's also worth noting that gaming is a rewarding experience at 1080p on the hardware I recommended, though 4k is a bit of a lofty aspiration for it.

Quote from: Flee on July 19, 2017, 07:40:53 PM

Quote from: Prehistoric on July 19, 2017, 07:32:00 PM

god bless you, flee

Just giving my 2c. Solonoid probably knows more about hardware in general than I do, but it seems that his PC has a different purpose than what you had in mind and doesn't offer twice the performance for the same price (especially for gaming it'll probably perform even worse). He's right in saying that there could've been some skimming here and there (mainly by going all AMD instead of Intel + Nvidia, which are usually seen as more reliable and high quality but more expensive), but I think you have a solid build picked out for what you want it do. It's a reasonable price and nothing is stopping you from investing in an i5 and another 8gb of DDR4 down the line for a build that I would consider downright good.

Looking at it as machine only for playing games and browsing the internet, it will probably get the job done for the next three years, and with what prehistoric wants to use it for in mind, I retract my statement.

Spoiler

Just don't expect to be doing a lot of content creation centric stuff, which is a large portion of what I do.

youre kind of a fucking asshole btw

What content do you produce, Sol?

What content do you produce, Sol?

When I had better camera equipment, I edited a lot of very hi res stills, but now that I mostly work with materials provided by other artists, that has kind of fallen by the wayside.

I edit video in Final Cut Pro (not really a fan of Premier Pro) for a few friends who make shorts.
This is another thing I did a lot more of when I was shooting raw footage.

These days I mostly do modelling and texturing, either for mods or rendered images.

I do a lot of shop still, but the ceiling is usually 4k on most of the requests I fill, so no more xxxtra hi res raw image work.

Lately, I have started doing some audio work for a [super-secret] project on youtube, but that leans more heavily on my sound card (my 15yo Audigy 2 that somehow finds its way into every build I do because I'm too stubborn to buy a new one). Of course, if I was using onboard audio, I would definitely want a beefier CPU.

I guess I'll hijack this thread.

What kind of specs am I looking at for about £500-£600? I have a monitor and peripherals sorted so it's purely for the tower.

I'm looking to do light 3D work (anything really really intense I can use uni PCs but I would like to do stuff at home) and misc photoshop/ video stuff for general messing around. Not too interested in playing BF1 on ultra or anything, just wanting to play stuff like Stellaris or Civ or modded Fallout in regards to games.

Google tells me that's around 650-780 you ess dollarydoos.

It's a little more complicated than just changing the money.
Hardware is way more expensive outside of the US.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Solonoid/saved/bj7f7P

This build actually costs about £435 GBP if purchased in the US, but will run you £592.42
It costs $956 CAD, which is around £6 cheaper there.

It's one of the hardest parts building for other countries - how much the hardware costs.
I have a friend in Denmark who recently paid $1000 USD for a GTX 1080 Ti.

Solonoid's build was pretty decent, but your budget is higher. Any preference for brands?

No preference. One of my friends said Ryzen is generally better in regards to rendering stuff, which is my higher priority. But really, I'm all ears. I'll check out that build though.

It's a little more complicated than just changing the money.
Hardware is way more expensive outside of the US.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Solonoid/saved/bj7f7P

This build actually costs about £435 GBP if purchased in the US, but will run you £592.42
It costs $956 CAD, which is around £6 cheaper there.

It's one of the hardest parts building for other countries - how much the hardware costs.
I have a friend in Denmark who recently paid $1000 USD for a GTX 1080 Ti.

Oh, cool. I didn't realise it was generally more expensive outside the US, that'll be useful to note. I won't be starting my build until around september when I get my student loan, but I'll keep your link bookmarked. Thanks a lot.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 20, 2017, 12:21:33 PM

9mm rifle

🤔

I have my normal AR and a .22lr ar upper, and a 7.62 akm. So next I wanted to build a pistol caliber carbine.

It takes Glock™ brand Glockazines™, has a 16 inch barrel, and a fixed rifle length stock.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 20, 2017, 08:41:40 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 20, 2017, 08:35:18 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 20, 2017, 12:21:33 PM

9mm rifle

🤔

I have my normal AR and a .22lr ar upper, and a 7.62 akm. So next I wanted to build a pistol caliber carbine.

So I did.

It takes Glock™ brand Glockazines™, has a 16 inch barrel, and a fixed rifle length stock.

is that considered a rifle by the porkers or a handgun

Rifle.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 20, 2017, 08:47:47 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 20, 2017, 08:45:20 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 20, 2017, 08:41:40 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 20, 2017, 08:35:18 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 20, 2017, 12:21:33 PM

9mm rifle

🤔

I have my normal AR and a .22lr ar upper, and a 7.62 akm. So next I wanted to build a pistol caliber carbine.

So I did.

It takes Glock™ brand Glockazines™, has a 16 inch barrel, and a fixed rifle length stock.

is that considered a rifle by the porkers or a handgun

Rifle.

Is it just for unloading into the air on New Years or can you actually hit shit with that

I dunno
I gotta get the bolt yet.

It's gonna live life as a range toy. But I don't see why it wouldn't be reasonably accurate out to 100m.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 20, 2017, 08:55:47 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 20, 2017, 08:49:59 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 20, 2017, 08:47:47 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 20, 2017, 08:45:20 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 20, 2017, 08:41:40 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 20, 2017, 08:35:18 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 20, 2017, 12:21:33 PM

9mm rifle

🤔

I have my normal AR and a .22lr ar upper, and a 7.62 akm. So next I wanted to build a pistol caliber carbine.

So I did.

It takes Glock™ brand Glockazines™, has a 16 inch barrel, and a fixed rifle length stock.

is that considered a rifle by the porkers or a handgun

Rifle.

Is it just for unloading into the air on New Years or can you actually hit shit with that

I dunno
I gotta get the bolt yet.

It's gonna live life as a range toy. But I don't see why it wouldn't be reasonably accurate out to 100m.

it should with a 16 inch barrel. That's weird though, what made you want to do this?

It was something different to build.