Quote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 01:04:45 AMgpus are all the same as long as its not some no name brand, MSI is very reputablewhat youre really paying for with a different brand is the heatsink on top of it and the level of customer support, often EVGA cards are more expensive, but they also offer probably the best support youll get if there are ever any problems with it, that said that premium is pretty much just for the peace of mind; your money will only really come into play should the card actually come into any issuesif you say bought a card from KFA2, ASUS or MSI, that isnt to say theyll have the worst customer support known to man (maybe Palit might be bad), but theyll still deal with RMAs and it will generally be a painless procedure providing youre still within warrantyin short the price you pay for one brand over another is the price you pay for support and how pretty the card looks outside of the computeri wont say its a bad idea to get an EVGA card because their support is some of the best ive seen, but its upto you to decide whether or not that peace of mind is worth iti just got the cheapest double slot cooler 1060 with 6gb i could find (KFA2), thats just me; ive yet to deal with their support and i hope i wont have to eitherSo you're saing that KFA2 is good? Because their 1080 Exoc literally just dropped down to 505€ (lowest I've ever seen a GTX 1080 that wasn't an older blower style fan). Should I jump on this now before the price changes again?
gpus are all the same as long as its not some no name brand, MSI is very reputablewhat youre really paying for with a different brand is the heatsink on top of it and the level of customer support, often EVGA cards are more expensive, but they also offer probably the best support youll get if there are ever any problems with it, that said that premium is pretty much just for the peace of mind; your money will only really come into play should the card actually come into any issuesif you say bought a card from KFA2, ASUS or MSI, that isnt to say theyll have the worst customer support known to man (maybe Palit might be bad), but theyll still deal with RMAs and it will generally be a painless procedure providing youre still within warrantyin short the price you pay for one brand over another is the price you pay for support and how pretty the card looks outside of the computeri wont say its a bad idea to get an EVGA card because their support is some of the best ive seen, but its upto you to decide whether or not that peace of mind is worth iti just got the cheapest double slot cooler 1060 with 6gb i could find (KFA2), thats just me; ive yet to deal with their support and i hope i wont have to either
Quote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 01:04:45 AMSo to put it bluntly:pls respondbecause kind of urgent.
Quote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 09:20:44 AMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 12:49:55 AMfor a case i would recommend the NZXT source series, they look great and theyre super cheap for mid towers, im not sure about the dimensions but you probably wouldnt have a problem with things like the gpu not fitting in, though you might want to look at some of the variants, iirc they had some distinction between models with front panel usb3 ports and just usb2sfor case fans i would recommend bequiet, dumb name but theyre performant and live up to iti would get the i7 7700k if what you say is truei have the same motherboard, its perfectly fine, any real difference wouldnt be seen outside of overclocking and a different chipsetThe 7700k is 20€ more expensive, so I might just go for that one (now that I saved quite a bit on the GPU) and then add a Z270 of comparable price?Such as the MSI Z270 SLI Plus, which is around 25€ more expensive than the Z170-A I was looking at? https://www.amazon.fr/MSI-Z270-SLI-PLUS-Socket/dp/B01N5LSIYI?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=camelcamelc09-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01N5LSIYIWell, I bought it.
Quote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 12:49:55 AMfor a case i would recommend the NZXT source series, they look great and theyre super cheap for mid towers, im not sure about the dimensions but you probably wouldnt have a problem with things like the gpu not fitting in, though you might want to look at some of the variants, iirc they had some distinction between models with front panel usb3 ports and just usb2sfor case fans i would recommend bequiet, dumb name but theyre performant and live up to iti would get the i7 7700k if what you say is truei have the same motherboard, its perfectly fine, any real difference wouldnt be seen outside of overclocking and a different chipsetThe 7700k is 20€ more expensive, so I might just go for that one (now that I saved quite a bit on the GPU) and then add a Z270 of comparable price?Such as the MSI Z270 SLI Plus, which is around 25€ more expensive than the Z170-A I was looking at? https://www.amazon.fr/MSI-Z270-SLI-PLUS-Socket/dp/B01N5LSIYI?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=camelcamelc09-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01N5LSIYI
for a case i would recommend the NZXT source series, they look great and theyre super cheap for mid towers, im not sure about the dimensions but you probably wouldnt have a problem with things like the gpu not fitting in, though you might want to look at some of the variants, iirc they had some distinction between models with front panel usb3 ports and just usb2sfor case fans i would recommend bequiet, dumb name but theyre performant and live up to iti would get the i7 7700k if what you say is truei have the same motherboard, its perfectly fine, any real difference wouldnt be seen outside of overclocking and a different chipset
Quote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 03:23:53 PMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 01:49:56 PMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 09:20:44 AMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 12:49:55 AMfor a case i would recommend the NZXT source series, they look great and theyre super cheap for mid towers, im not sure about the dimensions but you probably wouldnt have a problem with things like the gpu not fitting in, though you might want to look at some of the variants, iirc they had some distinction between models with front panel usb3 ports and just usb2sfor case fans i would recommend bequiet, dumb name but theyre performant and live up to iti would get the i7 7700k if what you say is truei have the same motherboard, its perfectly fine, any real difference wouldnt be seen outside of overclocking and a different chipsetThe 7700k is 20€ more expensive, so I might just go for that one (now that I saved quite a bit on the GPU) and then add a Z270 of comparable price?Such as the MSI Z270 SLI Plus, which is around 25€ more expensive than the Z170-A I was looking at? https://www.amazon.fr/MSI-Z270-SLI-PLUS-Socket/dp/B01N5LSIYI?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=camelcamelc09-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01N5LSIYIWell, I bought it.what did you buyThe KFA2 GTX 1080 EXOC and the MSI Z270 SLI Plus. I read all the reviews I could find on it and ran it past several people on Reddit, LTT and Tom's Hardware. Seems like a great motherboard for the price.
Quote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 01:49:56 PMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 09:20:44 AMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 12:49:55 AMfor a case i would recommend the NZXT source series, they look great and theyre super cheap for mid towers, im not sure about the dimensions but you probably wouldnt have a problem with things like the gpu not fitting in, though you might want to look at some of the variants, iirc they had some distinction between models with front panel usb3 ports and just usb2sfor case fans i would recommend bequiet, dumb name but theyre performant and live up to iti would get the i7 7700k if what you say is truei have the same motherboard, its perfectly fine, any real difference wouldnt be seen outside of overclocking and a different chipsetThe 7700k is 20€ more expensive, so I might just go for that one (now that I saved quite a bit on the GPU) and then add a Z270 of comparable price?Such as the MSI Z270 SLI Plus, which is around 25€ more expensive than the Z170-A I was looking at? https://www.amazon.fr/MSI-Z270-SLI-PLUS-Socket/dp/B01N5LSIYI?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=camelcamelc09-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01N5LSIYIWell, I bought it.what did you buy
I also ordered the Cryorig H7 as my cooler.
Quote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 01:04:45 AMWhat's up with RAM being so ridiculously expensive these days?
Quote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 04:39:05 PMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 03:46:12 PMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 03:23:53 PMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 01:49:56 PMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 09:20:44 AMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 12:49:55 AMfor a case i would recommend the NZXT source series, they look great and theyre super cheap for mid towers, im not sure about the dimensions but you probably wouldnt have a problem with things like the gpu not fitting in, though you might want to look at some of the variants, iirc they had some distinction between models with front panel usb3 ports and just usb2sfor case fans i would recommend bequiet, dumb name but theyre performant and live up to iti would get the i7 7700k if what you say is truei have the same motherboard, its perfectly fine, any real difference wouldnt be seen outside of overclocking and a different chipsetThe 7700k is 20€ more expensive, so I might just go for that one (now that I saved quite a bit on the GPU) and then add a Z270 of comparable price?Such as the MSI Z270 SLI Plus, which is around 25€ more expensive than the Z170-A I was looking at? https://www.amazon.fr/MSI-Z270-SLI-PLUS-Socket/dp/B01N5LSIYI?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=camelcamelc09-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01N5LSIYIWell, I bought it.what did you buyThe KFA2 GTX 1080 EXOC and the MSI Z270 SLI Plus. I read all the reviews I could find on it and ran it past several people on Reddit, LTT and Tom's Hardware. Seems like a great motherboard for the price.honestly you wouldnt have seen a performance difference between the two motherboard (like i said, maybe a tiny bit if you were to overclock) but the z270 is kaby lake compatible out of the box so thats one less thing you have to worry aboutYeah, I know the difference is minimal between the two motherboards. But the compatibility, SLI possibility and extra features are definitely nice. Kaby lake compatibility will also eliminate possible issues and future proof it a fair bit.
Quote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 03:46:12 PMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 03:23:53 PMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 01:49:56 PMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 09:20:44 AMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 12:49:55 AMfor a case i would recommend the NZXT source series, they look great and theyre super cheap for mid towers, im not sure about the dimensions but you probably wouldnt have a problem with things like the gpu not fitting in, though you might want to look at some of the variants, iirc they had some distinction between models with front panel usb3 ports and just usb2sfor case fans i would recommend bequiet, dumb name but theyre performant and live up to iti would get the i7 7700k if what you say is truei have the same motherboard, its perfectly fine, any real difference wouldnt be seen outside of overclocking and a different chipsetThe 7700k is 20€ more expensive, so I might just go for that one (now that I saved quite a bit on the GPU) and then add a Z270 of comparable price?Such as the MSI Z270 SLI Plus, which is around 25€ more expensive than the Z170-A I was looking at? https://www.amazon.fr/MSI-Z270-SLI-PLUS-Socket/dp/B01N5LSIYI?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=camelcamelc09-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01N5LSIYIWell, I bought it.what did you buyThe KFA2 GTX 1080 EXOC and the MSI Z270 SLI Plus. I read all the reviews I could find on it and ran it past several people on Reddit, LTT and Tom's Hardware. Seems like a great motherboard for the price.honestly you wouldnt have seen a performance difference between the two motherboard (like i said, maybe a tiny bit if you were to overclock) but the z270 is kaby lake compatible out of the box so thats one less thing you have to worry about
Quote from: Pepsi on March 19, 2017, 10:56:42 AMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 07:01:45 PMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 01:04:45 AMWhat's up with RAM being so ridiculously expensive these days?it is what it iseven ddr3 is still expensiveIt was a whole lot cheaper half a year ago unfortunately.
Quote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 07:01:45 PMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 01:04:45 AMWhat's up with RAM being so ridiculously expensive these days?it is what it iseven ddr3 is still expensive
Quote from: Pepsi on March 19, 2017, 10:59:38 AMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 05:26:57 PMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 04:39:05 PMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 03:46:12 PMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 03:23:53 PMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 01:49:56 PMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 09:20:44 AMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 12:49:55 AMfor a case i would recommend the NZXT source series, they look great and theyre super cheap for mid towers, im not sure about the dimensions but you probably wouldnt have a problem with things like the gpu not fitting in, though you might want to look at some of the variants, iirc they had some distinction between models with front panel usb3 ports and just usb2sfor case fans i would recommend bequiet, dumb name but theyre performant and live up to iti would get the i7 7700k if what you say is truei have the same motherboard, its perfectly fine, any real difference wouldnt be seen outside of overclocking and a different chipsetThe 7700k is 20€ more expensive, so I might just go for that one (now that I saved quite a bit on the GPU) and then add a Z270 of comparable price?Such as the MSI Z270 SLI Plus, which is around 25€ more expensive than the Z170-A I was looking at? https://www.amazon.fr/MSI-Z270-SLI-PLUS-Socket/dp/B01N5LSIYI?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=camelcamelc09-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01N5LSIYIWell, I bought it.what did you buyThe KFA2 GTX 1080 EXOC and the MSI Z270 SLI Plus. I read all the reviews I could find on it and ran it past several people on Reddit, LTT and Tom's Hardware. Seems like a great motherboard for the price.honestly you wouldnt have seen a performance difference between the two motherboard (like i said, maybe a tiny bit if you were to overclock) but the z270 is kaby lake compatible out of the box so thats one less thing you have to worry aboutYeah, I know the difference is minimal between the two motherboards. But the compatibility, SLI possibility and extra features are definitely nice. Kaby lake compatibility will also eliminate possible issues and future proof it a fair bit.not sure youd find any issues apart from trying to use a skylake without updating the bios, and at most if its tic-tac-toe release for this generation of processors is true, you'll only get one newer processor, but i wouldn't bet on it; there will probably be a new socket for a new generation, and intel doesnt have a history of good forward compatibility with its socketsStill. It's a $15 difference. To me, that's well worth the performance boost (even if small), the guarantee that I won't have issues with skylake compatibility (which is not something I want to deal with as I've never built a PC or done anything with any bios before) and knowing that I'll have the latest generation which will likely last me the longest. Got plenty of recommendations on it and am happy with my purchase in the end.
Quote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 05:26:57 PMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 04:39:05 PMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 03:46:12 PMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 03:23:53 PMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 01:49:56 PMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2017, 09:20:44 AMQuote from: Pepsi on March 18, 2017, 12:49:55 AMfor a case i would recommend the NZXT source series, they look great and theyre super cheap for mid towers, im not sure about the dimensions but you probably wouldnt have a problem with things like the gpu not fitting in, though you might want to look at some of the variants, iirc they had some distinction between models with front panel usb3 ports and just usb2sfor case fans i would recommend bequiet, dumb name but theyre performant and live up to iti would get the i7 7700k if what you say is truei have the same motherboard, its perfectly fine, any real difference wouldnt be seen outside of overclocking and a different chipsetThe 7700k is 20€ more expensive, so I might just go for that one (now that I saved quite a bit on the GPU) and then add a Z270 of comparable price?Such as the MSI Z270 SLI Plus, which is around 25€ more expensive than the Z170-A I was looking at? https://www.amazon.fr/MSI-Z270-SLI-PLUS-Socket/dp/B01N5LSIYI?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=camelcamelc09-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01N5LSIYIWell, I bought it.what did you buyThe KFA2 GTX 1080 EXOC and the MSI Z270 SLI Plus. I read all the reviews I could find on it and ran it past several people on Reddit, LTT and Tom's Hardware. Seems like a great motherboard for the price.honestly you wouldnt have seen a performance difference between the two motherboard (like i said, maybe a tiny bit if you were to overclock) but the z270 is kaby lake compatible out of the box so thats one less thing you have to worry aboutYeah, I know the difference is minimal between the two motherboards. But the compatibility, SLI possibility and extra features are definitely nice. Kaby lake compatibility will also eliminate possible issues and future proof it a fair bit.not sure youd find any issues apart from trying to use a skylake without updating the bios, and at most if its tic-tac-toe release for this generation of processors is true, you'll only get one newer processor, but i wouldn't bet on it; there will probably be a new socket for a new generation, and intel doesnt have a history of good forward compatibility with its sockets
So here it is, the very final version of my build:CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€360.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (€39.08 @ Amazon Deutschland) Motherboard: MSI Z270 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€155.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€129.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€88.86 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€52.79 @ Amazon Deutschland) Video Card: GALAX GeForce GTX 1080 8GB EX OC Video Card Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€57.48 @ Amazon Deutschland) Power Supply: Cooler Master 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow (Red) 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan (€15.18 @ Mindfactory) Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow (Red) 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan (€15.18 @ Mindfactory) Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (€267.76 @ Amazon Deutschland) Total: €1700Final opinions are always welcome. I've bought everything aside from storage, monitor, RAM and PSU, which I'm doing later tonight. Thanks to anyone who helped. Greatly appreciated.
(FINAL) PC Build Complete!
