Quote from: Luciana on December 05, 2015, 10:01:09 PMQuote from: BC on December 05, 2015, 09:49:00 PMWhat's funny is that I dont understand how people find F4 unforgettable. The writing isn't even bad, just people were expecting some ridiculous stuff. Its like ES, the good writing is in the lore/writings you find. I mean I guess the Vault purposes were really easy to find out, but there also a lot of stuff that you have to search for, such as the additional purpose for 111 (beyond Cryogenics)I didn't have a problem with a lot of the writing actually. It certainly was a step up from Fallout 3 and Skyrim. My main complaints come with some gameplay choices, lack of choices, fetch quests, and the lack of dialogue options. That and just the world exploring is pretty much useless because there is no point going at the end of dungeons in this game since Legendary Monsters now drop the loot. So when you lockpick that master chest at the end of whatever building, odds are you're finding some Pipe Rifle.Again.pulse mineshotgun shells x23.38 ammo x 5silver spoontoy alienhardened glow sighted mighty automatic pipe pistol
Quote from: BC on December 05, 2015, 09:49:00 PMWhat's funny is that I dont understand how people find F4 unforgettable. The writing isn't even bad, just people were expecting some ridiculous stuff. Its like ES, the good writing is in the lore/writings you find. I mean I guess the Vault purposes were really easy to find out, but there also a lot of stuff that you have to search for, such as the additional purpose for 111 (beyond Cryogenics)I didn't have a problem with a lot of the writing actually. It certainly was a step up from Fallout 3 and Skyrim. My main complaints come with some gameplay choices, lack of choices, fetch quests, and the lack of dialogue options. That and just the world exploring is pretty much useless because there is no point going at the end of dungeons in this game since Legendary Monsters now drop the loot. So when you lockpick that master chest at the end of whatever building, odds are you're finding some Pipe Rifle.Again.
What's funny is that I dont understand how people find F4 unforgettable. The writing isn't even bad, just people were expecting some ridiculous stuff. Its like ES, the good writing is in the lore/writings you find. I mean I guess the Vault purposes were really easy to find out, but there also a lot of stuff that you have to search for, such as the additional purpose for 111 (beyond Cryogenics)
I honestly do think Fallout 4 is Bethesda's best work since Morrowind/Oblivion, in a lot of waysIt's just... The RPG aspect of the game was a HUGE part, and I'm super sad that it's just not there in the way we've seen in past Fallout games, I think they focused too hard on some parts, and forgot about others.
Quote from: Fruitcake on December 05, 2015, 10:06:33 PMI honestly do think Fallout 4 is Bethesda's best work since Morrowind/Oblivion, in a lot of waysIt's just... The RPG aspect of the game was a HUGE part, and I'm super sad that it's just not there in the way we've seen in past Fallout games, I think they focused too hard on some parts, and forgot about others.I honestly don't know why they thought it was a good idea to get rid of the Karma system, when there was no viable replacement in the slightest. And they don't even have a reputation system either.
Quote from: Fruitcake on December 05, 2015, 10:06:33 PMI honestly do think Fallout 4 is Bethesda's best work since Morrowind/Oblivion, in a lot of waysIt's just... The RPG aspect of the game was a HUGE part, and I'm super sad that it's just not there in the way we've seen in past Fallout games, I think they focused too hard on some parts, and forgot about others. And they don't even have a reputation system either.
Quote from: Azumarill on December 05, 2015, 10:02:48 PMQuote from: Luciana on December 05, 2015, 10:01:09 PMQuote from: BC on December 05, 2015, 09:49:00 PMWhat's funny is that I dont understand how people find F4 unforgettable. The writing isn't even bad, just people were expecting some ridiculous stuff. Its like ES, the good writing is in the lore/writings you find. I mean I guess the Vault purposes were really easy to find out, but there also a lot of stuff that you have to search for, such as the additional purpose for 111 (beyond Cryogenics)I didn't have a problem with a lot of the writing actually. It certainly was a step up from Fallout 3 and Skyrim. My main complaints come with some gameplay choices, lack of choices, fetch quests, and the lack of dialogue options. That and just the world exploring is pretty much useless because there is no point going at the end of dungeons in this game since Legendary Monsters now drop the loot. So when you lockpick that master chest at the end of whatever building, odds are you're finding some Pipe Rifle.Again.pulse mineshotgun shells x23.38 ammo x 5silver spoontoy alienhardened glow sighted mighty automatic pipe pistolThe Legendary Enemy thing is a compelling idea, but it gave it a more Borderlands feel than anything (along with ruining the point of dungeon crawling, which is one of the most fundamental things to an RPG since ever), and that's not Fallout. It doesn't help that by the time you're level 15, any armor and weapon mods you find are pretty much useless because what you have on is better, and the weapon you have will do more damage.No one cares if your sniper has a base power of 80 and does +50 radiation damage, when your other sniper rifle is ticking in the 100's for damage.
Quote from: Luciana on December 05, 2015, 10:07:41 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on December 05, 2015, 10:06:33 PMI honestly do think Fallout 4 is Bethesda's best work since Morrowind/Oblivion, in a lot of waysIt's just... The RPG aspect of the game was a HUGE part, and I'm super sad that it's just not there in the way we've seen in past Fallout games, I think they focused too hard on some parts, and forgot about others.I honestly don't know why they thought it was a good idea to get rid of the Karma system, when there was no viable replacement in the slightest. And they don't even have a reputation system either.And the companion system is atrocious too, even if the companions themselves are actually really cool
Yeah what's the point of the like and dislike? I constantly made Cait dislike some things for me, but she still opened up to me. There is a mod where it says things like"Cait disliked that but zero fucks were given"
Quote from: Luciana on December 05, 2015, 10:11:16 PMYeah what's the point of the like and dislike? I constantly made Cait dislike some things for me, but she still opened up to me. There is a mod where it says things like"Cait disliked that but zero fucks were given"hiding companion quests/character development behind aggregate points rather than specific triggers. fucking bethesda.
Quote from: Azumarill on December 05, 2015, 10:13:19 PMQuote from: Luciana on December 05, 2015, 10:11:16 PMYeah what's the point of the like and dislike? I constantly made Cait dislike some things for me, but she still opened up to me. There is a mod where it says things like"Cait disliked that but zero fucks were given"hiding companion quests/character development behind aggregate points rather than specific triggers. fucking bethesda.I don't mind that decision. I just don't understand what the point of it is since they never seem to leave if you hit a certain dislike, and will actually open UP to you when you keep getting dislikes.
overall its a solid 6/10. skyrim 2: nuclear boogaloo.
Quote from: Azumarill on December 05, 2015, 09:21:29 PMoverall its a solid 6/10. skyrim 2: nuclear boogaloo.i only read this linewould you say it's better or worse than fallout 3
Quote from: NiggerBot 9000 on December 05, 2015, 09:50:49 PM6/10 LOL you're fucking crazy. It's easily a 9/10 and the amount of people sucked into the game prove you wrongPeople sink hours into it because it's deliberately spread out to make you play longer. If we're going by that logic, games like Call of Duty are 9/10's too.
6/10 LOL you're fucking crazy. It's easily a 9/10 and the amount of people sucked into the game prove you wrong
fo4 is better overall. f3 did a few things better though.
Quote from: Azumarill on December 05, 2015, 10:54:08 PMfo4 is better overall. f3 did a few things better though.i think that's kinda funnyfor as much praise as the fallout series tends to get here, no one seems to like the games all that muchi mean, a 6/10 isn't a great score--especially if it's better than the last installment
Quote from: Luciana on December 05, 2015, 09:59:13 PMQuote from: NiggerBot 9000 on December 05, 2015, 09:50:49 PM6/10 LOL you're fucking crazy. It's easily a 9/10 and the amount of people sucked into the game prove you wrongPeople sink hours into it because it's deliberately spread out to make you play longer. If we're going by that logic, games like Call of Duty are 9/10's too.How is that? The game is FILLED with content, which is the exact opposite of Cock of Duty
oh yeah, i forgot about new vegasi've heard nothing but praise for that one
Quote from: NiggerBot 9000 on December 05, 2015, 10:57:21 PMQuote from: Luciana on December 05, 2015, 09:59:13 PMQuote from: NiggerBot 9000 on December 05, 2015, 09:50:49 PM6/10 LOL you're fucking crazy. It's easily a 9/10 and the amount of people sucked into the game prove you wrongPeople sink hours into it because it's deliberately spread out to make you play longer. If we're going by that logic, games like Call of Duty are 9/10's too.How is that? The game is FILLED with content, which is the exact opposite of Cock of DutyI'm just going on what you said and how it sucks people in games. You'll have to provide more clarity than that.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 05, 2015, 10:58:17 PMQuote from: Azumarill on December 05, 2015, 10:54:08 PMfo4 is better overall. f3 did a few things better though.i think that's kinda funnyfor as much praise as the fallout series tends to get here, no one seems to like the games all that muchi mean, a 6/10 isn't a great score--especially if it's better than the last installmentbethesda just isnt the right studio to develop fallout games. FO1 and FO2 were really really good, people these days just dont like isometric gameplay. New Vegas was one of the best RPGs of the new millenium. bethesdas fallout titles are just OK and the other titles in the series are very obscure/dont really matter, aside from maybe tactics.
Damnit, debates ended up happening.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 05, 2015, 11:01:37 PMoh yeah, i forgot about new vegasi've heard nothing but praise for that oneIt's amazing, even though Obsidian was extremely rushed while making it, it really helps that a lot of the people who worked on the original 2 Fallouts also worked on NV. Funnily enough, NV is probably more of an actual "Fallout 3" than Fallout 3 is
Fallout 4, what to expect?
