I'm just going to link the URL since it's easier than pasting all that. Anyway apparently putting effort into a game is too much for current Bethesda to handle. I'm surprised nobody there has called a strike yet due to that or left the place and joined Bungie. By looking at Fallout 3 and Skyrim content wise I'm thinking when they say "too much" they are just adding around the same amount of content that Morrowind has.

It's not a game I'm getting on release day, but we can only imagine the uproar if it gets delayed.

I really don't see the issue here.

Just over 100 people working on these games, wow....

I'm honestly fine if this game needs to be delayed in order to be fully worked on to be the most successful fallout yet without any bugs like MCC.

Is it wrong that deep down I want Rock Band 4 slightly more than Fallout 4?

Quote from: Sprungli on July 08, 2015, 06:34:37 PM

Is it wrong that deep down I want Rock Band 4 slightly more than Fallout 4?

it's pretty right actually

That's good; I thought I was going a bit odd.

>Todd Howard

Just a look into his eyes and you blissfully believe every lie.

Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 08, 2015, 10:07:25 PM

Fallout 3 was good, Skyrim still sets a benchmark for modern games, and Fallout 4 looks to be packed with an obscene amount of content. I'm getting pretty sick of these mopey threads talking about how shitty Fallout 3 was supposed to be, how boring Skyrim is (hint: if you're bored in Skyrim, you're a boring fucking person and there's no fixing that), and how supposedly bad Fallout 4 will be.

I can't tell if this is bait or not.

I've said many times on here how much I enjoy the modern Fallout games and the entire Elder Scrolls series. Those opinions aren't changing as public sentiment on the internet reflects how aged and flawed the games work. Hindsight is 20/20, and Skyrim, lauded as a damn-near perfect benchmark for the genre at release is now claimed to be boring, empty, and shallow. It's hard to pin down an objectively wrong opinion, but that's a good example of one.

Fallout 4 looks great and seems to have many really interesting additions to a series whose fans have resisted change since day one. You're more than welcome to not buy it, but the constant whining on this forum about triple-A games is pretty obnoxious.

Quote from: Verbatim on July 08, 2015, 10:53:00 PM

Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 08, 2015, 10:50:36 PM

Hindsight is 20/20, and Skyrim, lauded as a damn-near perfect benchmark for the genre at release is now claimed to be boring, empty, and shallow. It's hard to pin down an objectively wrong opinion, but that's a good example of one.

if it helps, i always thought skyrim was boring, empty, and shallow

So did a lot of people. However game "journalists", casuals, and babbys firsts love it and claimed it to be "a damn-near perfect benchmark for the genre" so I guess it must be true.

"Width of an ocean with the depth of a puddle" was a pretty common saying at release outside of the three communities I mentioned above.

The irony is that most of these people now claiming Skyrim is shallow can look fondly at their 200+ hours of adventuring in a still-true technical benchmark with genre-defining mechanics. It's just silly. Skyrim is, without debate, a ridiculously detailed, expansive, content-filled and organic game. There's a reason that the worst parts of the game are the scripted story pieces, and that's because the game absolutely succeeds at being open-world and player-driven. I'm not even sure what the "depth of a puddle" is referring to. Surely it's not talking about the lore available in the game, or the hundreds of completely optional locations, hundreds of quests followed by procedurally generated quests, or the thorough crafting system? Of course, the game isn't a character-driven vidya novella a la Witcher, but the series never claims to be such. It's a giant fucking world with tons of stuff to do and tons of lore to uncover, and it kicks ass at it.