Quote from: BaconShelf on August 19, 2015, 06:42:04 PMQuote from: Kupo on August 19, 2015, 06:18:12 PMQuote from: Luciana on August 19, 2015, 06:11:07 PMBut yeah, Battlefront Single Player was never amazing anywayYeah, apparently Pandemic was left kicking and screaming when LucasArts insisted that Battlefront 2 have a campaign mode. It made for a mildly entertaining co-op mode, but Instant Action was always better, anyway.Galactic conquest was the shit.Again, bot support is all that's needed. Battlefront's AI were more than competent for the time. Having a mode for offline players shouldn't be a thing we're just accepting nowadays.The AI was a bit dumb until it got patched, but it was easy to not notice given how sneaky they were at capping control points >.>I'd like a deeper Galactic Conquest mode more than anything, really.
Quote from: Kupo on August 19, 2015, 06:18:12 PMQuote from: Luciana on August 19, 2015, 06:11:07 PMBut yeah, Battlefront Single Player was never amazing anywayYeah, apparently Pandemic was left kicking and screaming when LucasArts insisted that Battlefront 2 have a campaign mode. It made for a mildly entertaining co-op mode, but Instant Action was always better, anyway.Galactic conquest was the shit.Again, bot support is all that's needed. Battlefront's AI were more than competent for the time. Having a mode for offline players shouldn't be a thing we're just accepting nowadays.
Quote from: Luciana on August 19, 2015, 06:11:07 PMBut yeah, Battlefront Single Player was never amazing anywayYeah, apparently Pandemic was left kicking and screaming when LucasArts insisted that Battlefront 2 have a campaign mode. It made for a mildly entertaining co-op mode, but Instant Action was always better, anyway.
But yeah, Battlefront Single Player was never amazing anyway
Dice has literally never released a bad game minus BF 4 for being unfinished, but you can blame EA for that.That's a pretty good track record.
Quote from: Luciana on August 19, 2015, 09:04:21 PMDice has literally never released a bad game minus BF 4 for being unfinished, but you can blame EA for that.That's a pretty good track record.BF: Hardline is shitty
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 11:34:28 PMQuote from: Luciana on August 19, 2015, 09:04:21 PMDice has literally never released a bad game minus BF 4 for being unfinished, but you can blame EA for that.That's a pretty good track record.BF: Hardline is shittyVisceral made Hardline.
Hardline has Death Grips in its soundtrack. It is exempt from being shitty.
Quote from: Luciana on August 19, 2015, 09:04:21 PMDice has literally never released a bad game minus BF 4 for being unfinished, but you can blame EA for that.That's a pretty good track record.BF3. Dammit so many problems.
Quote from: SuperIrish on August 20, 2015, 12:13:30 PMQuote from: Luciana on August 19, 2015, 09:04:21 PMDice has literally never released a bad game minus BF 4 for being unfinished, but you can blame EA for that.That's a pretty good track record.BF3. Dammit so many problems.Like balance issues? I got it on launch and it wasn't BROKEN like BF4 was with servers and latency.And Dice actually sticks with their games. They're still doing BF4 stuff for free.
Quote from: BaconShelf on August 19, 2015, 05:48:07 PMThe lore aspect of the DLC is irrelevant to the point I'm making. You're more than welcome to argue that Javick should have been free instead of being bundled with the CE and sold to people who didn't have it. However the fact remains that it was content that was not finished before the final build was submitted to MS and Sony for certification. If the content of the DLC wasn't important lore wise to ME nobody really would have cared about it.
Quote from: LC on August 19, 2015, 05:59:41 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on August 19, 2015, 05:48:07 PMThe lore aspect of the DLC is irrelevant to the point I'm making. You're more than welcome to argue that Javick should have been free instead of being bundled with the CE and sold to people who didn't have it. However the fact remains that it was content that was not finished before the final build was submitted to MS and Sony for certification. If the content of the DLC wasn't important lore wise to ME nobody really would have cared about it.Talk about being EA's wet dream
Quote from: Luciana on August 20, 2015, 12:27:48 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on August 20, 2015, 12:13:30 PMQuote from: Luciana on August 19, 2015, 09:04:21 PMDice has literally never released a bad game minus BF 4 for being unfinished, but you can blame EA for that.That's a pretty good track record.BF3. Dammit so many problems.Like balance issues? I got it on launch and it wasn't BROKEN like BF4 was with servers and latency.And Dice actually sticks with their games. They're still doing BF4 stuff for free.A metric fuckton of issues, many of which are still problematic, and lacking features which have been asked for (and in some cases, promised) and yet even with BF Hardline released and BF 5 mentioned, have not been delivered.I could go onto a full incomprehensible rant, but there's a whole other forum that has explained it better than I could and I cba to go into an extended essay about it when it's already been said (warning; a very long read).
Quote from: Solid Lemon on August 20, 2015, 12:59:19 PMQuote from: LC on August 19, 2015, 05:59:41 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on August 19, 2015, 05:48:07 PMThe lore aspect of the DLC is irrelevant to the point I'm making. You're more than welcome to argue that Javick should have been free instead of being bundled with the CE and sold to people who didn't have it. However the fact remains that it was content that was not finished before the final build was submitted to MS and Sony for certification. If the content of the DLC wasn't important lore wise to ME nobody really would have cared about it.Talk about being EA's wet dreamSo what you're saying is that you can't refute me.
Quote from: LC on August 20, 2015, 01:08:16 PMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 20, 2015, 12:59:19 PMQuote from: LC on August 19, 2015, 05:59:41 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on August 19, 2015, 05:48:07 PMThe lore aspect of the DLC is irrelevant to the point I'm making. You're more than welcome to argue that Javick should have been free instead of being bundled with the CE and sold to people who didn't have it. However the fact remains that it was content that was not finished before the final build was submitted to MS and Sony for certification. If the content of the DLC wasn't important lore wise to ME nobody really would have cared about it.Talk about being EA's wet dreamSo what you're saying is that you can't refute me.Giving people more in-game content that affects the game than someone else isn't good in any way and shouldn't be supported at all.There's no excuse for day 1 DLC besides money grubbing. It's called Day One DLC, because it's ready for the games' launch, and not because "oh shit better make more content for our loyal customers because we care about them dearly".I'm guessing you're okay with pre-order bonuses too?.
Quote from: Solid Lemon on August 20, 2015, 01:29:05 PMQuote from: LC on August 20, 2015, 01:08:16 PMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 20, 2015, 12:59:19 PMQuote from: LC on August 19, 2015, 05:59:41 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on August 19, 2015, 05:48:07 PMThe lore aspect of the DLC is irrelevant to the point I'm making. You're more than welcome to argue that Javick should have been free instead of being bundled with the CE and sold to people who didn't have it. However the fact remains that it was content that was not finished before the final build was submitted to MS and Sony for certification. If the content of the DLC wasn't important lore wise to ME nobody really would have cared about it.Talk about being EA's wet dreamSo what you're saying is that you can't refute me.Giving people more in-game content that affects the game than someone else isn't good in any way and shouldn't be supported at all.There's no excuse for day 1 DLC besides money grubbing. It's called Day One DLC, because it's ready for the games' launch, and not because "oh shit better make more content for our loyal customers because we care about them dearly".I'm guessing you're okay with pre-order bonuses too?.I'm presuming you're discounting armour skins and stuff.Because they are generally made by artists when they don't have anything to do at the end of development, and aren't affecting the game.
Quote from: LC on August 20, 2015, 01:08:16 PMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 20, 2015, 12:59:19 PMQuote from: LC on August 19, 2015, 05:59:41 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on August 19, 2015, 05:48:07 PMThe lore aspect of the DLC is irrelevant to the point I'm making. You're more than welcome to argue that Javick should have been free instead of being bundled with the CE and sold to people who didn't have it. However the fact remains that it was content that was not finished before the final build was submitted to MS and Sony for certification. If the content of the DLC wasn't important lore wise to ME nobody really would have cared about it.Talk about being EA's wet dreamSo what you're saying is that you can't refute me.Giving people more in-game content that affects the game than someone else isn't good in any way and shouldn't be supported at all.There's no excuse for day 1 DLC besides money grubbing. It's called Day One DLC, because it's ready for the games' launch, and not because "oh shit better make more content for our loyal customers because we care about them dearly".
Quote from: BaconShelf on August 20, 2015, 01:34:18 PMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 20, 2015, 01:29:05 PMQuote from: LC on August 20, 2015, 01:08:16 PMQuote from: Solid Lemon on August 20, 2015, 12:59:19 PMQuote from: LC on August 19, 2015, 05:59:41 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on August 19, 2015, 05:48:07 PMThe lore aspect of the DLC is irrelevant to the point I'm making. You're more than welcome to argue that Javick should have been free instead of being bundled with the CE and sold to people who didn't have it. However the fact remains that it was content that was not finished before the final build was submitted to MS and Sony for certification. If the content of the DLC wasn't important lore wise to ME nobody really would have cared about it.Talk about being EA's wet dreamSo what you're saying is that you can't refute me.Giving people more in-game content that affects the game than someone else isn't good in any way and shouldn't be supported at all.There's no excuse for day 1 DLC besides money grubbing. It's called Day One DLC, because it's ready for the games' launch, and not because "oh shit better make more content for our loyal customers because we care about them dearly".I'm guessing you're okay with pre-order bonuses too?.I'm presuming you're discounting armour skins and stuff.Because they are generally made by artists when they don't have anything to do at the end of development, and aren't affecting the game.Well yeah. Who cares about skins?
Quote from: SuperIrish on August 20, 2015, 12:44:47 PMQuote from: Luciana on August 20, 2015, 12:27:48 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on August 20, 2015, 12:13:30 PMQuote from: Luciana on August 19, 2015, 09:04:21 PMDice has literally never released a bad game minus BF 4 for being unfinished, but you can blame EA for that.That's a pretty good track record.BF3. Dammit so many problems.Like balance issues? I got it on launch and it wasn't BROKEN like BF4 was with servers and latency.And Dice actually sticks with their games. They're still doing BF4 stuff for free.A metric fuckton of issues, many of which are still problematic, and lacking features which have been asked for (and in some cases, promised) and yet even with BF Hardline released and BF 5 mentioned, have not been delivered.I could go onto a full incomprehensible rant, but there's a whole other forum that has explained it better than I could and I cba to go into an extended essay about it when it's already been said (warning; a very long read).That was very interesting. didn't know any of that.Thanks for sharing.
EA defending day one DLC and no single-player in SWBF
