E3 2016

So uh, can a FO4 guy correct me if I'm wrong here, but did they literally take a mod by a user about making Vaults and put it in the game as an official thing?

They did it with Hearthfire in Skyrim, so I wouldnt be surprised.

It's obviously targeted towards the console market to grab a quick 12345678 bucks

So uh, can a FO4 guy correct me if I'm wrong here, but did they literally take a mod by a user about making Vaults and put it in the game as an official thing?

They did it with Hearthfire in Skyrim, so I wouldnt be surprised.

huh

wonder how he feels

Damn I have to get a Next-generation console to play the superior version of Skyrim that PC doesnt get.

Thank you for making me laugh lol

What single person who doesnt have it on PC doesnt have it modded.

Hell its probably the same files

All they did was upscale it to 1080p, put in a filter, and throw in FO4s god rays. It's likely that your modded version of skyrim looks and runs better than it.

ah

well that answers your question, batch--i would definitely buy the remaster over modding it

Not as interesting....or really much of an understanding answer then I would have wanted, but I guess that's your answer.

i value officiality or authenticity above everything else--even if what's authentic is arguably worse than what the fans could produce

i don't claim a star wars fanfiction to be canon just because i like the story better

tbh I never had a problem with there being a white-knight faction of the brotherhood, but it would've made more sense if THEY were the outcasts.

it was more the fact that you were forced to work with them that sucked

That wouldn't make any sense. The only reason the BoS was "good" in Fallout 3 was because of Lyons. If he wasn't elder, they would be the same cookie cutter anti-villiains they were in the originals. And no Brotherhood member would actually go far enough to betray the organization and defect from it unless they believed that they were completely justified in doing so and had to do it. Defecting to help out the Capitol Wasteland and save people? What fucking knight or paladin would do that? Defecting to defend the Codex and the purpose of the Brotherhood? Almost any knight or paladin would at least consider it.

I definitely agree that you should've been able to choose your faction in F3, though. Would be interesting to be able to choose from Lyons' BoS, the Outcasts/original BoS, the Enclave, or independent.

I don't mean defected in the same style as the Outcasts but more like having the two factions exist within the same Brotherhood, with Lyons' faction having a bit less support, and have the player witness the infighting firsthand and perhaps have a hand in the outcome.

tbh I never had a problem with there being a white-knight faction of the brotherhood, but it would've made more sense if THEY were the outcasts.

it was more the fact that you were forced to work with them that sucked

That wouldn't make any sense. The only reason the BoS was "good" in Fallout 3 was because of Lyons. If he wasn't elder, they would be the same cookie cutter anti-villiains they were in the originals. And no Brotherhood member would actually go far enough to betray the organization and defect from it unless they believed that they were completely justified in doing so and had to do it. Defecting to help out the Capitol Wasteland and save people? What fucking knight or paladin would do that? Defecting to defend the Codex and the purpose of the Brotherhood? Almost any knight or paladin would at least consider it.

I definitely agree that you should've been able to choose your faction in F3, though. Would be interesting to be able to choose from Lyons' BoS, the Outcasts/original BoS, the Enclave, or independent.

I don't mean defected in the same style as the Outcasts but more like having the two factions exist within the same Brotherhood, with Lyons' faction having a bit less support, and have the player witness the infighting firsthand and perhaps have a hand in the outcome.

That would make sense, but if Lyons were anything short of elder, he would just be kicked out of the Brotherhood for having ideals that go so heavily against the Codex.

It would be interesting if the BoS was just a few years behind what we saw in F3, though, and what would become the Outcasts were just kind of beginning to form as a sect within the Brotherhood.

Regardless, I'm really glad the whole Lyons thing happened, unlike Luciana. It actually makes sense from a narrative standpoint for a leader like Lyons to develop some guilt and empathy after travelling across the entire continental US, and for him to channel that into trying to make the wasteland a better place. It would be so much less immersive and interesting for them to be a carbon copy of WC BoS.

Tbh the Outcasts should have replaced the Enclave in Fallout 3

Even keep the same storyline, Outcasts could have been way better. Have a more personal stake for the Brotherhood as soldiers are fighting against their former friends and the bad guys wouldn't have been really shoehorned in like the Enclave were.  You could still have Outcasts as having better tech because tjey would have been proactively raiding outposts and military bases for shit while Lyons was bogged down in DC in a largely stale war of attrition.

Plus the outcasts power armour was waay cooler than Brotherhood's.

Tbh the Outcasts should have replaced the Enclave in Fallout 3

Even keep the same storyline, Outcasts could have been way better. Have a more personal stake for the Brotherhood as soldiers are fighting against their former friends and the bad guys wouldn't have been really shoehorned in like the Enclave were.  You could still have Outcasts as having better tech because tjey would have been proactively raiding outposts and military bases for shit while Lyons was bogged down in DC in a largely stale war of attrition.

Plus the outcasts power armour was waay cooler than Brotherhood's.

this would be pretty sweet, actually

only bad thing would be no Colonel Autumn

Tbh the Outcasts should have replaced the Enclave in Fallout 3

Even keep the same storyline, Outcasts could have been way better. Have a more personal stake for the Brotherhood as soldiers are fighting against their former friends and the bad guys wouldn't have been really shoehorned in like the Enclave were.  You could still have Outcasts as having better tech because tjey would have been proactively raiding outposts and military bases for shit while Lyons was bogged down in DC in a largely stale war of attrition.

Plus the outcasts power armour was waay cooler than Brotherhood's.

this would be pretty sweet, actually

only bad thing would be no Colonel Autumn

Yeah

Though making Autumn an outcast paladin/ head paladin/ whatever (Protector I think actually) and a former rival to Lyons while largely keeping his personality largely the same would be cool. You could still keep the dynamic where the Outcasts leader (Casdin I think) want to purge the wasteland, but Autumn's splinter group more want to use the purifier to solidify power but not kill everyone, like JHE and Autumn.

Having BOS/ Outcast clashes at places like Fort Bannister and maybe Megaton or Ft. Independence would be sweet, kind of like the Civil War stuff in Skyrim (I like those quests. Civil War should have been Skyrims focus rather than dragons imo)

while we're still talking about fallout 3, have we all seen this

YouTube

it's just this epic takedown of the entire game, and he makes a lot of great points

still like the game though

Tbh the Outcasts should have replaced the Enclave in Fallout 3

Even keep the same storyline, Outcasts could have been way better. Have a more personal stake for the Brotherhood as soldiers are fighting against their former friends and the bad guys wouldn't have been really shoehorned in like the Enclave were.  You could still have Outcasts as having better tech because tjey would have been proactively raiding outposts and military bases for shit while Lyons was bogged down in DC in a largely stale war of attrition.

Plus the outcasts power armour was waay cooler than Brotherhood's.

this would be pretty sweet, actually

only bad thing would be no Colonel Autumn

Yeah

Though making Autumn an outcast paladin/ head paladin/ whatever (Protector I think actually) and a former rival to Lyons while largely keeping his personality largely the same would be cool. You could still keep the dynamic where the Outcasts leader (Casdin I think) want to purge the wasteland, but Autumn's splinter group more want to use the purifier to solidify power but not kill everyone, like JHE and Autumn.

Having BOS/ Outcast clashes at places like Fort Bannister and maybe Megaton or Ft. Independence would be sweet, kind of like the Civil War stuff in Skyrim (I like those quests. Civil War should have been Skyrims focus rather than dragons imo)

oh my god, I never realized how much I wanted this game

that sounds amazing

while we're still talking about fallout 3, have we all seen this

YouTube

it's just this epic takedown of the entire game, and he makes a lot of great points

still like the game though

Keep seeing it on my recommended feed but I was assuming it was one of those videos like BDobbinsFTW where he doesn't really say anything of value but just uses clickbait and shit for views.

Might give it a watch.


In unrelated news, I got around to watching the TES/ Fallout stuff. Skyrim new looks gorgeous, Nuka World looks interesting and I'm disappointed with the workshop DLCs. I liked Wasteland Workshop for new building materials and decor, but building conveyor belts and vaults doesn't really interest me. Thank fuck for weapon and armour stands though. I was hoping for a GRA-style DLC to give us more guns.

Tbh the Outcasts should have replaced the Enclave in Fallout 3

Even keep the same storyline, Outcasts could have been way better. Have a more personal stake for the Brotherhood as soldiers are fighting against their former friends and the bad guys wouldn't have been really shoehorned in like the Enclave were.  You could still have Outcasts as having better tech because tjey would have been proactively raiding outposts and military bases for shit while Lyons was bogged down in DC in a largely stale war of attrition.

Plus the outcasts power armour was waay cooler than Brotherhood's.

this would be pretty sweet, actually

only bad thing would be no Colonel Autumn

Yeah

Though making Autumn an outcast paladin/ head paladin/ whatever (Protector I think actually) and a former rival to Lyons while largely keeping his personality largely the same would be cool. You could still keep the dynamic where the Outcasts leader (Casdin I think) want to purge the wasteland, but Autumn's splinter group more want to use the purifier to solidify power but not kill everyone, like JHE and Autumn.

Having BOS/ Outcast clashes at places like Fort Bannister and maybe Megaton or Ft. Independence would be sweet, kind of like the Civil War stuff in Skyrim (I like those quests. Civil War should have been Skyrims focus rather than dragons imo)

oh my god, I never realized how much I wanted this game

that sounds amazing

Yeah. Conflicts where the characters have a personal investment (NPCs, like) are a lot more interesting than 'these guys are bad' and that's it.

The Outcasts were such a missed opportunity.

I just really really really wanted PS4 mods to finally get released and was let down

if not E3, then when in June

why not just do it at E3

Tbh the Outcasts should have replaced the Enclave in Fallout 3

Even keep the same storyline, Outcasts could have been way better. Have a more personal stake for the Brotherhood as soldiers are fighting against their former friends and the bad guys wouldn't have been really shoehorned in like the Enclave were.  You could still have Outcasts as having better tech because tjey would have been proactively raiding outposts and military bases for shit while Lyons was bogged down in DC in a largely stale war of attrition.

Plus the outcasts power armour was waay cooler than Brotherhood's.

this would be pretty sweet, actually

only bad thing would be no Colonel Autumn

Yeah

Though making Autumn an outcast paladin/ head paladin/ whatever (Protector I think actually) and a former rival to Lyons while largely keeping his personality largely the same would be cool. You could still keep the dynamic where the Outcasts leader (Casdin I think) want to purge the wasteland, but Autumn's splinter group more want to use the purifier to solidify power but not kill everyone, like JHE and Autumn.

Having BOS/ Outcast clashes at places like Fort Bannister and maybe Megaton or Ft. Independence would be sweet, kind of like the Civil War stuff in Skyrim (I like those quests. Civil War should have been Skyrims focus rather than dragons imo)

oh my god, I never realized how much I wanted this game

that sounds amazing

Yeah. Conflicts where the characters have a personal investment (NPCs, like) are a lot more interesting than 'these guys are bad' and that's it.

The Outcasts were such a missed opportunity.

not to mention it really doesn't make any sense for the Enclave to even still exist after F2

I just really really really wanted PS4 mods to finally get released and was let down

if not E3, then when in June

why not just do it at E3

They'll likely do a beta first like XB1 mods. I mean, we didn't get them until the last day of may, so I would wait until after DLC04 earliest.

I just really really really wanted PS4 mods to finally get released and was let down

if not E3, then when in June

why not just do it at E3

They'll likely do a beta first like XB1 mods. I mean, we didn't get them until the last day of may, so I would wait until after DLC04 earliest.

Damn, that sucks

I've never been able to do mods before, I'm so excited

I just really really really wanted PS4 mods to finally get released and was let down

if not E3, then when in June

why not just do it at E3

They'll likely do a beta first like XB1 mods. I mean, we didn't get them until the last day of may, so I would wait until after DLC04 earliest.

Damn, that sucks

I've never been able to do mods before, I'm so excited

If you're anything like me, you just end up getting 60+ that fix minor glitches and generally improve qualoty of the game. The one I was most excited for was the ability to wear a gas mask with a helmet.

I just really really really wanted PS4 mods to finally get released and was let down

if not E3, then when in June

why not just do it at E3

They'll likely do a beta first like XB1 mods. I mean, we didn't get them until the last day of may, so I would wait until after DLC04 earliest.

Damn, that sucks

I've never been able to do mods before, I'm so excited

If you're anything like me, you just end up getting 60+ that fix minor glitches and generally improve qualoty of the game. The one I was most excited for was the ability to wear a gas mask with a helmet.

nah man, I don't care about graphics or glitches or anything like that

I'm excited for actual new content. Like new guns, new workshop items, and all that

I just really really really wanted PS4 mods to finally get released and was let down

if not E3, then when in June

why not just do it at E3

They'll likely do a beta first like XB1 mods. I mean, we didn't get them until the last day of may, so I would wait until after DLC04 earliest.

Damn, that sucks

I've never been able to do mods before, I'm so excited

If you're anything like me, you just end up getting 60+ that fix minor glitches and generally improve qualoty of the game. The one I was most excited for was the ability to wear a gas mask with a helmet.

nah man, I don't care about graphics or glitches or anything like that

I'm excited for actual new content. Like new guns, new workshop items, and all that

Oh yeah. I have a couple that add some WWII army uniforms and add hunting rifle mods for Lee Enfield conversion, but everything else is eh. I prefer building with vanilla stuff in my settlements than new stuff. Adds more challenge/ room for creativity(? - not sure how to describe it) and I'm generally happier with my settlements that look cool with vanilla items than crazy shit.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/BaconShelf/video/18459410 (shameless self plug because it was still the last thing I copied)

Like that^. Minus flagpoles and more trees/ grass, that's all vanilla and I'm more satisfied with that than I was with anything I did with expanded stuff. Of course, it's all down to opinion, but I tend to get lazy when given all the tools. When given a selective palette I tend to be more creative in doing stuff.

I see what you mean, makes sense. For building especially, I need the mod where you can just place anything anywhere, regardless of clipping. That red object shit, when I could literally plop something down there in real life no problem, is so annoying.

I see what you mean, makes sense. For building especially, I need the mod where you can just place anything anywhere, regardless of clipping. That red object shit, when I could literally plop something down there in real life no problem, is so annoying.

Look at NoRespawns on YT. He's a PS4 guy that covers a lot of tricks to bypass that. He's pretty cool.

I see what you mean, makes sense. For building especially, I need the mod where you can just place anything anywhere, regardless of clipping. That red object shit, when I could literally plop something down there in real life no problem, is so annoying.

Look at NoRespawns on YT. He's a PS4 guy that covers a lot of tricks to bypass that. He's pretty cool.

Yeah, there's the whole rug glitch and all of that. That's definitely helped me out a lot (especially in refurbishing Croup Manor), but it's still a tedious workaround

I see what you mean, makes sense. For building especially, I need the mod where you can just place anything anywhere, regardless of clipping. That red object shit, when I could literally plop something down there in real life no problem, is so annoying.

Look at NoRespawns on YT. He's a PS4 guy that covers a lot of tricks to bypass that. He's pretty cool.

Yeah, there's the whole rug glitch and all of that. That's definitely helped me out a lot (especially in refurbishing Croup Manor), but it's still a tedious workaround

Oh yeah. Sadly there's no mod for XB1 that bypasses the limits yet. Hopefully one day we'll get it.

Ready for my 5th or so Skyrim playthrough. Time to Platinum again.

I never actually killed a legendary dragon, though. I could never play long enough to reach level 75...

Damn I have to get a Next-generation console to play the superior version of Skyrim that PC doesnt get.

https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/742194847101095936

I never actually killed a legendary dragon, though. I could never play long enough to reach level 75...

Don't remind me. Whiterun, Solitude, Winterhold, Markarth and many more cities are utterly devoid of life thanks to my endless quest for unlimited powah.

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Damn I have to get a Next-generation console to play the superior version of Skyrim that PC doesnt get.

https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/742194847101095936

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Also I was being sarcastic.