why ain't people taking about it
People who finished the game can confirm - I avoided spoilers but heard rumours. From what I understand so far: You are indeed the same doom marine from the 90's Doom games.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on May 13, 2016, 04:49:20 PMPeople who finished the game can confirm - I avoided spoilers but heard rumours. From what I understand so far: You are indeed the same doom marine from the 90's Doom games.I'm not sure Doomguy is the same guy from the original games. SpoilerTowards the end of the game, they elaborate on exactly how Doomguy was trapped in hell in the first place, and apparently his home dimension, Argent D'Nur, was taken over by demonic forces. Doomguy was once the leader of Argent D'Nur's protectors, the Night Sentinels. One of the Sentinels betrayed his dimension, allowing demonic forces to take it over. This apparently happened eons ago. If this is indeed the same Doomguy from the original games, then the events of those games weren't Doomguy's first encounter with demonic forces.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on June 26, 2016, 02:53:53 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 13, 2016, 04:49:20 PMPeople who finished the game can confirm - I avoided spoilers but heard rumours. From what I understand so far: You are indeed the same doom marine from the 90's Doom games.I'm not sure Doomguy is the same guy from the original games. SpoilerTowards the end of the game, they elaborate on exactly how Doomguy was trapped in hell in the first place, and apparently his home dimension, Argent D'Nur, was taken over by demonic forces. Doomguy was once the leader of Argent D'Nur's protectors, the Night Sentinels. One of the Sentinels betrayed his dimension, allowing demonic forces to take it over. This apparently happened eons ago. If this is indeed the same Doomguy from the original games, then the events of those games weren't Doomguy's first encounter with demonic forces.SpoilerIt's not explicitly stated that he was a Night Sentinel-- just that he had some connection to the group. IIRC time in Hell is also a lot longer than our reality, so a hundred years is equivalent to aeons. Most people see it as him kicking ass in Hell for so long (canonifying the .wads that people made for DOOM and DOOM 2) that God took notice and gave him powers of the angels. Eventually the Lords of Hell lured him to what would become his tomb and trapped in his sarcophagus, which is where he stayed until he was found by Olivia Pierce.There's also a theory that Doomguy is the ancient warrior that you can find in DOOM 3.
Quote from: Prime Kruphix on June 26, 2016, 03:15:55 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on June 26, 2016, 02:53:53 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 13, 2016, 04:49:20 PMPeople who finished the game can confirm - I avoided spoilers but heard rumours. From what I understand so far: You are indeed the same doom marine from the 90's Doom games.I'm not sure Doomguy is the same guy from the original games. SpoilerTowards the end of the game, they elaborate on exactly how Doomguy was trapped in hell in the first place, and apparently his home dimension, Argent D'Nur, was taken over by demonic forces. Doomguy was once the leader of Argent D'Nur's protectors, the Night Sentinels. One of the Sentinels betrayed his dimension, allowing demonic forces to take it over. This apparently happened eons ago. If this is indeed the same Doomguy from the original games, then the events of those games weren't Doomguy's first encounter with demonic forces.SpoilerIt's not explicitly stated that he was a Night Sentinel-- just that he had some connection to the group. IIRC time in Hell is also a lot longer than our reality, so a hundred years is equivalent to aeons. Most people see it as him kicking ass in Hell for so long (canonifying the .wads that people made for DOOM and DOOM 2) that God took notice and gave him powers of the angels. Eventually the Lords of Hell lured him to what would become his tomb and trapped in his sarcophagus, which is where he stayed until he was found by Olivia Pierce.There's also a theory that Doomguy is the ancient warrior that you can find in DOOM 3.Regardless of whether or not it's the same Doomguy, I love the approach they've taken to the lore of the game; the game's lore vaguely reminds me of Dark Souls, in that it is somewhat subject to interpretation.SpoilerI was aware of the stuff regarding the sarcophagus, Doomguy being blessed by Divine forces, and so forth. I covered some of it in my post prior to my reply to Nick.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on June 26, 2016, 03:21:14 PMQuote from: Prime Kruphix on June 26, 2016, 03:15:55 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on June 26, 2016, 02:53:53 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 13, 2016, 04:49:20 PMPeople who finished the game can confirm - I avoided spoilers but heard rumours. From what I understand so far: You are indeed the same doom marine from the 90's Doom games.I'm not sure Doomguy is the same guy from the original games. SpoilerTowards the end of the game, they elaborate on exactly how Doomguy was trapped in hell in the first place, and apparently his home dimension, Argent D'Nur, was taken over by demonic forces. Doomguy was once the leader of Argent D'Nur's protectors, the Night Sentinels. One of the Sentinels betrayed his dimension, allowing demonic forces to take it over. This apparently happened eons ago. If this is indeed the same Doomguy from the original games, then the events of those games weren't Doomguy's first encounter with demonic forces.SpoilerIt's not explicitly stated that he was a Night Sentinel-- just that he had some connection to the group. IIRC time in Hell is also a lot longer than our reality, so a hundred years is equivalent to aeons. Most people see it as him kicking ass in Hell for so long (canonifying the .wads that people made for DOOM and DOOM 2) that God took notice and gave him powers of the angels. Eventually the Lords of Hell lured him to what would become his tomb and trapped in his sarcophagus, which is where he stayed until he was found by Olivia Pierce.There's also a theory that Doomguy is the ancient warrior that you can find in DOOM 3.Regardless of whether or not it's the same Doomguy, I love the approach they've taken to the lore of the game; the game's lore vaguely reminds me of Dark Souls, in that it is somewhat subject to interpretation.SpoilerI was aware of the stuff regarding the sarcophagus, Doomguy being blessed by Divine forces, and so forth. I covered some of it in my post prior to my reply to Nick.I prefer it being the same Doomguy, because then it connects Doom 3 into the series instead of being this weird survival-horror standalone with the DOOM name. Then you can blame not being able to RIP AND TEAR on him just being some weak-ass (but still above average) marine.
Quote from: Prime Kruphix on June 26, 2016, 03:24:11 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on June 26, 2016, 03:21:14 PMQuote from: Prime Kruphix on June 26, 2016, 03:15:55 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on June 26, 2016, 02:53:53 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 13, 2016, 04:49:20 PMPeople who finished the game can confirm - I avoided spoilers but heard rumours. From what I understand so far: You are indeed the same doom marine from the 90's Doom games.I'm not sure Doomguy is the same guy from the original games. SpoilerTowards the end of the game, they elaborate on exactly how Doomguy was trapped in hell in the first place, and apparently his home dimension, Argent D'Nur, was taken over by demonic forces. Doomguy was once the leader of Argent D'Nur's protectors, the Night Sentinels. One of the Sentinels betrayed his dimension, allowing demonic forces to take it over. This apparently happened eons ago. If this is indeed the same Doomguy from the original games, then the events of those games weren't Doomguy's first encounter with demonic forces.SpoilerIt's not explicitly stated that he was a Night Sentinel-- just that he had some connection to the group. IIRC time in Hell is also a lot longer than our reality, so a hundred years is equivalent to aeons. Most people see it as him kicking ass in Hell for so long (canonifying the .wads that people made for DOOM and DOOM 2) that God took notice and gave him powers of the angels. Eventually the Lords of Hell lured him to what would become his tomb and trapped in his sarcophagus, which is where he stayed until he was found by Olivia Pierce.There's also a theory that Doomguy is the ancient warrior that you can find in DOOM 3.Regardless of whether or not it's the same Doomguy, I love the approach they've taken to the lore of the game; the game's lore vaguely reminds me of Dark Souls, in that it is somewhat subject to interpretation.SpoilerI was aware of the stuff regarding the sarcophagus, Doomguy being blessed by Divine forces, and so forth. I covered some of it in my post prior to my reply to Nick.I prefer it being the same Doomguy, because then it connects Doom 3 into the series instead of being this weird survival-horror standalone with the DOOM name. Then you can blame not being able to RIP AND TEAR on him just being some weak-ass (but still above average) marine.Wait, could you explain how Doom 3 ties into it? When I was talking about it being the same Doomguy I was talking about Doom 1, 2, and 64. Doom 3 always struck me as a standalone reboot.In your preferred interpretation, what is the connection to Doom 3? Are you thinking of the Marine from Doom 3 as being the same Doomguy in the new game, or something else?
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on June 26, 2016, 03:29:52 PMQuote from: Prime Kruphix on June 26, 2016, 03:24:11 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on June 26, 2016, 03:21:14 PMQuote from: Prime Kruphix on June 26, 2016, 03:15:55 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on June 26, 2016, 02:53:53 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 13, 2016, 04:49:20 PMPeople who finished the game can confirm - I avoided spoilers but heard rumours. From what I understand so far: You are indeed the same doom marine from the 90's Doom games.I'm not sure Doomguy is the same guy from the original games. SpoilerTowards the end of the game, they elaborate on exactly how Doomguy was trapped in hell in the first place, and apparently his home dimension, Argent D'Nur, was taken over by demonic forces. Doomguy was once the leader of Argent D'Nur's protectors, the Night Sentinels. One of the Sentinels betrayed his dimension, allowing demonic forces to take it over. This apparently happened eons ago. If this is indeed the same Doomguy from the original games, then the events of those games weren't Doomguy's first encounter with demonic forces.SpoilerIt's not explicitly stated that he was a Night Sentinel-- just that he had some connection to the group. IIRC time in Hell is also a lot longer than our reality, so a hundred years is equivalent to aeons. Most people see it as him kicking ass in Hell for so long (canonifying the .wads that people made for DOOM and DOOM 2) that God took notice and gave him powers of the angels. Eventually the Lords of Hell lured him to what would become his tomb and trapped in his sarcophagus, which is where he stayed until he was found by Olivia Pierce.There's also a theory that Doomguy is the ancient warrior that you can find in DOOM 3.Regardless of whether or not it's the same Doomguy, I love the approach they've taken to the lore of the game; the game's lore vaguely reminds me of Dark Souls, in that it is somewhat subject to interpretation.SpoilerI was aware of the stuff regarding the sarcophagus, Doomguy being blessed by Divine forces, and so forth. I covered some of it in my post prior to my reply to Nick.I prefer it being the same Doomguy, because then it connects Doom 3 into the series instead of being this weird survival-horror standalone with the DOOM name. Then you can blame not being able to RIP AND TEAR on him just being some weak-ass (but still above average) marine.Wait, could you explain how Doom 3 ties into it? When I was talking about it being the same Doomguy I was talking about Doom 1, 2, and 64. Doom 3 always struck me as a standalone reboot.In your preferred interpretation, what is the connection to Doom 3? Are you thinking of the Marine from Doom 3 as being the same Doomguy in the new game, or something else?They explain how the Soul Cube had been used before by an ancient Martian hero. With the Hell fuckery with time and dimension hopping, it's possible that the original Doomguy (1, 2, 64, 4) is actually the "Martian Hero" one jumped from the original dimension to the D3 one. IIRC you can find the Martian Hero's coffin in D3, meaning that at some point the original Doomguy would have eventually died some how or way.I don't describe it that well, but there are people that explain it better on Youtube.
DOOM 3 is easily one of the best games ever made. No FPS had such a great atmosphere, scare factor, and rich lore D3 has. Plus every weapon is fun as fuck to use.
Rage is just a discount fallout
DOOM reboot / sequel?
