Dark Souls is easily one of the best games of all time.

 
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LOL Where the hell did you get this from?

He has to actually fight and kill you. You know that right?
Yes. So? Maybe you don't fucking want to deal with his shit, and don't wanna have to play offline to do it.

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So stay Hollow. That's the point. You lose nothing by being Hollow. That's why they made it like that. So you can choose whether or not you want to be invaded.

If you couldn't do that, then I could at least see your point. 
You lose co-op. Not that I care, really, but you still lose it.

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I think dueling in Dark Souls is a ton of fun.
You know what? I'm sure it would be, if you PM'd a player and asked him to duel? Sure.

That's how it should work.


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Every game is played by cunts and trolls.

There's no disclaimer that your teammate can spawn kill you in Halo 3. I don't see you complain about that.

At least in Dark Souls there's a point to it, and it's immersive.
You know what you're signing up for in Halo. You don't in Dark Souls, until it happens.

All I want is a disclaimer. I hear Bloodborne did it right. It asks you if you want to play hollow right away, so I hear.

Dark Souls should be the same way.

Dark Souls is one of their older games. Of course Bloodborne improves on some aspects.
I wouldn't exactly call Dark Souls "older". It was made in 2010, not 1998.


 
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Dark Souls is one of their older games. Of course Bloodborne improves on some aspects.
So fucking patch Dark Souls to work the same way--it wouldn't be THAT difficult, would it?


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Every game is played by cunts and trolls.

There's no disclaimer that your teammate can spawn kill you in Halo 3. I don't see you complain about that.

At least in Dark Souls there's a point to it, and it's immersive.
You know what you're signing up for in Halo. You don't in Dark Souls, until it happens.

All I want is a disclaimer. I hear Bloodborne did it right. It asks you if you want to play hollow right away, so I hear.

Dark Souls should be the same way.

Dark Souls is one of their older games. Of course Bloodborne improves on some aspects.
I wouldn't exactly call Dark Souls "older". It was made in 2010, not 1998.

Older relative to Bloodborne.


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With Quick-Reply you can write a post when viewing a topic without loading a new page. You can still use bulletin board code and smileys as you would in a normal post.

I don't believe you.


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Dark Souls is one of their older games. Of course Bloodborne improves on some aspects.
So fucking patch Dark Souls to work the same way--it wouldn't be THAT difficult, would it?

That's not going to happen because they're done with it.


 
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Every game is played by cunts and trolls.

There's no disclaimer that your teammate can spawn kill you in Halo 3. I don't see you complain about that.

At least in Dark Souls there's a point to it, and it's immersive.
You know what you're signing up for in Halo. You don't in Dark Souls, until it happens.

All I want is a disclaimer. I hear Bloodborne did it right. It asks you if you want to play hollow right away, so I hear.

Dark Souls should be the same way.

Dark Souls is one of their older games. Of course Bloodborne improves on some aspects.
I wouldn't exactly call Dark Souls "older". It was made in 2010, not 1998.

Older relative to Bloodborne.
Yeah, I was just being pedantic. Bloodborne succeeded to Dark Souls, Dark Souls succeeded Demon's Souls, Demon's Souls succeeded Shadow Tower, Shadow Tower succeeded King's Field, blah blah. Point is that Dark Souls isn't exactly their first attempt at that kind of game, and using "older" as an excuse just comes off as ignorant.

Not saying you are, just the impression that gave off. Carry on.


 
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That's not going to happen because they're done with it.
I'm saying they could do it, and they should've done it.

So the fact that they haven't makes the game suffer just a little bit in my eyes.


 
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No I don't. I had no idea my own team could kill me. There was no warning, no disclaimer. And there was no purpose or reason. 

THAT is annoying. Not invasions in Dark Souls.
I could be wrong, but I think if you read the match settings, you can check to see if an option called "friendly fire" is turned on or off. Is that not a thing?

I'm not saying that's not annoying--it totally is, and people shouldn't be able to do that. But you sign up for it.


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Every game is played by cunts and trolls.

There's no disclaimer that your teammate can spawn kill you in Halo 3. I don't see you complain about that.

At least in Dark Souls there's a point to it, and it's immersive.
You know what you're signing up for in Halo. You don't in Dark Souls, until it happens.

All I want is a disclaimer. I hear Bloodborne did it right. It asks you if you want to play hollow right away, so I hear.

Dark Souls should be the same way.

Dark Souls is one of their older games. Of course Bloodborne improves on some aspects.
I wouldn't exactly call Dark Souls "older". It was made in 2010, not 1998.

Older relative to Bloodborne.
Yeah, I was just being pedantic. Bloodborne succeeded to Dark Souls, Dark Souls succeeded Demon's Souls, Demon's Souls succeeded Shadow Tower, Shadow Tower succeeded King's Field, blah blah. Point is that Dark Souls isn't exactly their first attempt at that kind of game, and using "older" as an excuse just comes off as ignorant.

Not saying you are, just the impression that gave off. Carry on.

I was just saying that it's usually the done thing to improve on things in a new release.


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No I don't. I had no idea my own team could kill me. There was no warning, no disclaimer. And there was no purpose or reason. 

THAT is annoying. Not invasions in Dark Souls.
I could be wrong, but I think if you read the match settings, you can check to see if an option called "friendly fire" is turned on or off. Is that not a thing?

I'm not saying that's not annoying--it totally is, and people shouldn't be able to do that. But you sign up for it.

You also sign up to get killed by a wanker every now and then when you play Dark Souls. But it is easily, easily avoidable if you take the right precautions.



 
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I was just saying that it's usually the done thing to improve on things in a new release.
Would you really consider that an improvement, though? You come off like the kind of guy who would be upset that they added that, because it encourages people to go hollow, thereby inflating the userbase with people who don't play online.

I've seen Dark Souls fans crying about that shit. It's hilarious.
Apparently being hollow is a REALLY bad thing to these people.


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I was just saying that it's usually the done thing to improve on things in a new release.
Would you really consider that an improvement, though? You come off like the kind of guy who would be upset that they added that, because it encourages people to go hollow, thereby inflating the userbase with people who don't play online.

I've seen Dark Souls fans crying about that shit. It's hilarious.
Apparently being hollow is a REALLY bad thing to these people.

I don't care about being hollow at all. I only go human when I want to fight people or summon.


 
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You also sign up to get killed by a wanker every now and then when you play Dark Souls. But it is easily, easily avoidable if you take the right precautions.
Yeah, you only sign up for it under some shady-ass fine-line ToS bullshit where they snag you under some technicality like, "it was in the manual--don't you know you're supposed to read the manual?"

I don't consider that an actual contract, sorry. That type of shit is sleazy as fuck.

No one playing Dark Souls for the first time could reasonably suspect that invading is part of the game.
Not until it happens.


 
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Just let him play the game already and stop complaining over the same useless crap you guys have gone over time and time again


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Just let him play the game already and stop complaining over the same useless crap you guys have gone over time and time again

I was just about to say that, actually. It's kind of a waste of time arguing with someone who hasn't even gave the game a chance.


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Trolling people is a built in mechanic?

FUCKIN SICK


 
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Verb can you please stop being so victim blamey on this and stop treating it like it's a social issue like rape or abortion?

It's really really tiring to read

I get you don't like it, but please just play the freaking game already and stop being snagged on this issue and letting it suddenly invalidate the other 90% of it.

If you actually play it and still dislike it, perfectly fine. Not everyone will like the same thing, and those who think otherwise are stupid. But please stop treating this like you're an advocate for gamers rights or something silly. Just play it and then make your judgement, not the other way around. You did the same thing for Half Life and Halo. I'm more than certain you can for this.


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Trolling people is a built in mechanic?

FUCKIN SICK

Tbh it's actually pretty difficult to find weak people who have no idea what they're doing, usually they bring friends that are big guys

and even then, it's not satisfying because you just completely destroy them


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I kind of want to go burging on my sl5 dickwraith, but I don't think I have XBL anymore. Literally the only game I've played where people messaged me after a duel and congratulated me for winning.


 
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It'll still be awhile before I pick it back up again, because Fallout, but yeah.

I'm not actually going to actively try to ruin the experience for myself by looking out for every little flaw I can find.

But fuck, you Dark Souls fans make me want to.


 
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But fuck, you Dark Souls fans make me want to.
Undertale fans make me want to blow my brains out

It doesn't mean the game is bad all of the sudden though


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It'll still be awhile before I pick it back up again, because Fallout, but yeah.

I'm not actually going to actively try to ruin the experience for myself by looking out for every little flaw I can find.

But fuck, you Dark Souls fans make me want to.

The community is pretty shit, but that's true for most PvP games because it enables shitty behavior.


 
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I kind of want to go burging on my sl5 dickwraith, but I don't think I have XBL anymore. Literally the only game I've played where people messaged me after a duel and congratulated me for winning.
wow what a nice community


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and even then, it's not satisfying because you just completely destroy them
Picking on the weak is always fun, what are you talking about?


 
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Community can be bad, but honestly I've met some more people with a sense of humor/honor in Dark Souls, than I have for a lot of games.

It's almost a social experiment really. In Dark Souls 2 in duel arenas (there are arenas to fight in), players came up with the mechanic that, before a fight, you drink allll of your Estus Flask (the thing that restores your health), because it's frowned upon by honor rules to run away and heal and come back to fight. Of course they bow before duels too.

That goes to say though, that when invading other peoples world/vise versa, it's no hold bars since there is more at steak (unless you're right by a bonfire you just spawned at).


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Community can be bad, but honestly I've met some more people with a sense of humor/honor in Dark Souls, than I have for a lot of games.

It's almost a social experiment really. In Dark Souls 2 in duel arenas (there are arenas to fight in), players came up with the mechanic that, before a fight, you drink allll of your Estus Flask (the thing that restores your health), because it's frowned upon by honor rules to run away and heal and come back to fight. Of course they bow before duels too.

That goes to say though, that when invading other peoples world/vise versa, it's no hold bars since there is more at steak (unless you're right by a bonfire you just spawned at).

Yeah, spamming Estus is highly frowned upon in Dark Souls. It's strange that unspoken rules were formed in what pretty much equates to an open season.


 
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Community can be bad, but honestly I've met some more people with a sense of humor/honor in Dark Souls, than I have for a lot of games.

It's almost a social experiment really. In Dark Souls 2 in duel arenas (there are arenas to fight in), players came up with the mechanic that, before a fight, you drink allll of your Estus Flask (the thing that restores your health), because it's frowned upon by honor rules to run away and heal and come back to fight. Of course they bow before duels too.

That goes to say though, that when invading other peoples world/vise versa, it's no hold bars since there is more at steak (unless you're right by a bonfire you just spawned at).
street fighter has similar stuff

it's generally considered rude to win a game and then switch your character, for example
because you won--what the fuck do you need to change your character for

also, taunting is considered very disrespectful--more than you'd expect, and it's very frowned upon in tournaments
like, it's okay if you're with friends and you're just taunting, but like... in a tournament, it's disrespectful as fuck

so i get that

it's weird, but i get that