Quote from: Le Mon man on July 26, 2015, 12:32:57 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 26, 2015, 12:26:45 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 26, 2015, 12:22:18 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 26, 2015, 12:17:58 PMViolence in video games (and all forms of media) can and does have a psychological impact on the player, and is desensitizing us to other forms of violence, be it simulated or otherwise.I honestly don't think very many people deny this.What people deny is the notion that violent video games will not only make you a psycho killer, but are the primary catalyst of violent behavior. Or that the psychological impact is anything but negligible.I suppose so. I don't really think it's negligible, though. I can't espouse that nurture often trumps nature in the development of one's personality while also denying that the content of many kids' primary form of entertainment is negligible in that growth, though.Mentally unstable people are the ones who're affected by simulated violence regardless of the medium. People who are mentally sound can differentiate between the two and know it's not okay to do it IRL.Kids exposed to violence (games, movies, whatever) won't grow up to be the next Adolf Hitler.Of course not. But kids and teens are still susceptible to stimuli because their brains are still developing, responding to stressors and figuring out what makes them go away. Conditioning your mind to relax through gratuitous violent content, regardless of the medium, is not particularly healthy.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 26, 2015, 12:26:45 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 26, 2015, 12:22:18 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 26, 2015, 12:17:58 PMViolence in video games (and all forms of media) can and does have a psychological impact on the player, and is desensitizing us to other forms of violence, be it simulated or otherwise.I honestly don't think very many people deny this.What people deny is the notion that violent video games will not only make you a psycho killer, but are the primary catalyst of violent behavior. Or that the psychological impact is anything but negligible.I suppose so. I don't really think it's negligible, though. I can't espouse that nurture often trumps nature in the development of one's personality while also denying that the content of many kids' primary form of entertainment is negligible in that growth, though.Mentally unstable people are the ones who're affected by simulated violence regardless of the medium. People who are mentally sound can differentiate between the two and know it's not okay to do it IRL.Kids exposed to violence (games, movies, whatever) won't grow up to be the next Adolf Hitler.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 26, 2015, 12:22:18 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 26, 2015, 12:17:58 PMViolence in video games (and all forms of media) can and does have a psychological impact on the player, and is desensitizing us to other forms of violence, be it simulated or otherwise.I honestly don't think very many people deny this.What people deny is the notion that violent video games will not only make you a psycho killer, but are the primary catalyst of violent behavior. Or that the psychological impact is anything but negligible.I suppose so. I don't really think it's negligible, though. I can't espouse that nurture often trumps nature in the development of one's personality while also denying that the content of many kids' primary form of entertainment is negligible in that growth, though.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 26, 2015, 12:17:58 PMViolence in video games (and all forms of media) can and does have a psychological impact on the player, and is desensitizing us to other forms of violence, be it simulated or otherwise.I honestly don't think very many people deny this.What people deny is the notion that violent video games will not only make you a psycho killer, but are the primary catalyst of violent behavior. Or that the psychological impact is anything but negligible.
Violence in video games (and all forms of media) can and does have a psychological impact on the player, and is desensitizing us to other forms of violence, be it simulated or otherwise.
It's weird when guys play as girls and vice versa.If someone chooses to play as someone simply because they find them sexually attractive, they can go fuck themselves.
Enclave are trying to take over in Fallout 3 as wellwhat are you on about? That whole battle at the end was a battle.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 26, 2015, 12:35:53 PMQuote from: Le Mon man on July 26, 2015, 12:32:57 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 26, 2015, 12:26:45 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 26, 2015, 12:22:18 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 26, 2015, 12:17:58 PMViolence in video games (and all forms of media) can and does have a psychological impact on the player, and is desensitizing us to other forms of violence, be it simulated or otherwise.I honestly don't think very many people deny this.What people deny is the notion that violent video games will not only make you a psycho killer, but are the primary catalyst of violent behavior. Or that the psychological impact is anything but negligible.I suppose so. I don't really think it's negligible, though. I can't espouse that nurture often trumps nature in the development of one's personality while also denying that the content of many kids' primary form of entertainment is negligible in that growth, though.Mentally unstable people are the ones who're affected by simulated violence regardless of the medium. People who are mentally sound can differentiate between the two and know it's not okay to do it IRL.Kids exposed to violence (games, movies, whatever) won't grow up to be the next Adolf Hitler.Of course not. But kids and teens are still susceptible to stimuli because their brains are still developing, responding to stressors and figuring out what makes them go away. Conditioning your mind to relax through gratuitous violent content, regardless of the medium, is not particularly healthy.Adding onto your little bit here, taking into account how hard of a tantrum most young kids throw and older teens rage over video games, likely leaves a lasting mark on their overall patience and temper in irl situations.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 26, 2015, 12:37:12 PMIt's weird when guys play as girls and vice versa.If someone chooses to play as someone simply because they find them sexually attractive, they can go fuck themselves.What if it's for other reasons though? Non sexual based, I mean?
Quote from: Sandtrap on July 26, 2015, 12:41:32 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 26, 2015, 12:37:12 PMIt's weird when guys play as girls and vice versa.If someone chooses to play as someone simply because they find them sexually attractive, they can go fuck themselves.What if it's for other reasons though? Non sexual based, I mean?Then that's fine.Like, maybe there are different story options if you play as a girl. I can understand that.Or maybe you're just tired of playing as the same guy, and would wonder what it's like if you changed.Or maybe you're playing a game like Street Fighter, where you happen to be good with a female character.But generally speaking, if you're playing an RPG, and the game asks you, "are you a boy or are you a girl," I just prefer to, you know, tell the truth.
Quote from: Luciana on July 26, 2015, 12:40:08 PMEnclave are trying to take over in Fallout 3 as wellwhat are you on about? That whole battle at the end was a battle.Yes, but the focus was still shifted. In Fallout 3 you have one guy and a radio channel until they come out of nowhere halfway into the game.Even then the overwhelming theme in 3 is that mankind is trying to survive, not that a war is coming.
Plus females generally have more detail and attention put into them, whereas guys are just generic looking.
Quote from: Le Mon man on July 26, 2015, 12:47:41 PMPlus females generally have more detail and attention put into them, whereas guys are just generic looking.That's your bias showing.
It's an RPG. Role Playing.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 26, 2015, 12:37:12 PMIt's weird when guys play as girls and vice versa.If someone chooses to play as someone simply because they find them sexually attractive, they can go fuck themselves.It's an RPG. Role Playing.Plus females generally have more detail and attention put into them, whereas guys are just generic looking.Femshep is significantly better than Maleshep because Jennifer Hale shits on Mark Meer's voice acting.
Quote from: Le Mon man on July 26, 2015, 12:47:41 PMIt's an RPG. Role Playing.I'm just saying--there are good ways to handle it. I've played RPGs where, instead of it asking you if you're a boy or a girl, it'll ask "what is your alter ego" or some shit. That makes more sense to me.Or, like in Skyrim, where it doesn't ask you anything at all. That's a good way to handle it. Probably the best way.
What's the difference between being asked by the game to pick a gender, and just switching it in the character creation options?
Turkey should learn to read scientific studies.
And it's not really a matter of telling the truth or lying because later on the game will probably ask what class you are.Yes. I am a warrior most certainly and truthfully. I carry claymores around one handed all day every day and prefer to use axes like they're throwing knives.
naoto is a misogynist
Quote from: Naoto on July 26, 2015, 12:55:17 PMTurkey should learn to read scientific studies.?
Quote from: Sandtrap on July 26, 2015, 12:55:32 PMAnd it's not really a matter of telling the truth or lying because later on the game will probably ask what class you are.Yes. I am a warrior most certainly and truthfully. I carry claymores around one handed all day every day and prefer to use axes like they're throwing knives.that's actually a pretty good point
You know what you should do Verb?Make a game that plays on your honesty.Make a couch potato class.
Quote from: Sandtrap on July 26, 2015, 01:03:14 PMYou know what you should do Verb?Make a game that plays on your honesty.Make a couch potato class.triggered
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 26, 2015, 12:57:40 PMQuote from: Naoto on July 26, 2015, 12:55:17 PMTurkey should learn to read scientific studies.?Violent vidya and all that.
Quote from: The Waifu Master on July 26, 2015, 12:43:02 PMQuote from: Luciana on July 26, 2015, 12:40:08 PMEnclave are trying to take over in Fallout 3 as wellwhat are you on about? That whole battle at the end was a battle.Yes, but the focus was still shifted. In Fallout 3 you have one guy and a radio channel until they come out of nowhere halfway into the game.Even then the overwhelming theme in 3 is that mankind is trying to survive, not that a war is coming.Well yeah, it had no government or force there to clean up, it was all anarchy. D.C. chapter was the only stabilizing thing that came in like 5 years ago.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 26, 2015, 12:56:17 PMnaoto is a misogynistfite meh boi