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Violence in video games (and all forms of media) can and does have a psychological impact on the player, and is desensitizing us to other forms of violence, be it simulated or otherwise.
I honestly don't think very many people deny this.

What people deny is the notion that violent video games will not only make you a psycho killer, but are the primary catalyst of violent behavior. Or that the psychological impact is anything but negligible.

I suppose so. I don't really think it's negligible, though. I can't espouse that nurture often trumps nature in the development of one's personality while also denying that the content of many kids' primary form of entertainment is negligible in that growth, though.
Mentally unstable people are the ones who're affected by simulated violence regardless of the medium. People who are mentally sound can differentiate between the two and know it's not okay to do it IRL.

Kids exposed to violence (games, movies, whatever) won't grow up to be the next Adolf Hitler.

Of course not. But kids and teens are still susceptible to stimuli because their brains are still developing, responding to stressors and figuring out what makes them go away. Conditioning your mind to relax through gratuitous violent content, regardless of the medium, is not particularly healthy.

Adding onto your little bit here, taking into account how hard of a tantrum most young kids throw and older teens rage over video games, likely leaves a lasting mark on their overall patience and temper in irl situations.


 
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Enclave are trying to take over in Fallout 3 as well

what are you on about? That whole battle at the end was a battle.


 
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It's weird when guys play as girls and vice versa.

If someone chooses to play as someone simply because they find them sexually attractive, they can go fuck themselves.

What if it's for other reasons though? Non sexual based, I mean? For example I guess, some people tend to pick options when they're there for the sake of it. Like myself.

In Halo games when given the opportunity, I always played as an Elite. In any game where I could play as something different, the opposite side so to speak, I picked it. And, every now and then the same holds true for picking a character simply to be something outside the box in regards to sex/gender.

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It's weird when guys play as girls and vice versa.

If someone chooses to play as someone simply because they find them sexually attractive, they can go fuck themselves.
But that's not why I play as females in modern RPG's.


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Enclave are trying to take over in Fallout 3 as well

what are you on about? That whole battle at the end was a battle.
Yes, but the focus was still shifted.
In Fallout 3 you have one guy and a radio channel until they come out of nowhere halfway into the game.
Even then the overwhelming theme in 3 is that mankind is trying to survive, not that a war is coming.


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Violence in video games (and all forms of media) can and does have a psychological impact on the player, and is desensitizing us to other forms of violence, be it simulated or otherwise.
I honestly don't think very many people deny this.

What people deny is the notion that violent video games will not only make you a psycho killer, but are the primary catalyst of violent behavior. Or that the psychological impact is anything but negligible.

I suppose so. I don't really think it's negligible, though. I can't espouse that nurture often trumps nature in the development of one's personality while also denying that the content of many kids' primary form of entertainment is negligible in that growth, though.
Mentally unstable people are the ones who're affected by simulated violence regardless of the medium. People who are mentally sound can differentiate between the two and know it's not okay to do it IRL.

Kids exposed to violence (games, movies, whatever) won't grow up to be the next Adolf Hitler.

Of course not. But kids and teens are still susceptible to stimuli because their brains are still developing, responding to stressors and figuring out what makes them go away. Conditioning your mind to relax through gratuitous violent content, regardless of the medium, is not particularly healthy.

Adding onto your little bit here, taking into account how hard of a tantrum most young kids throw and older teens rage over video games, likely leaves a lasting mark on their overall patience and temper in irl situations.
It undoubtedly affects behavior, yeah. But unless they're wired to be nutcases from the get go, they'll be fine.


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It's weird when guys play as girls and vice versa.

If someone chooses to play as someone simply because they find them sexually attractive, they can go fuck themselves.
Yeah I never understood it when people just play their character as eye candy.
But there are plenty of roleplay elements that can justify it.


 
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It's weird when guys play as girls and vice versa.

If someone chooses to play as someone simply because they find them sexually attractive, they can go fuck themselves.
What if it's for other reasons though? Non sexual based, I mean?
Then that's fine.

Like, maybe there are different story options if you play as a girl. I can understand that.
Or maybe you're just tired of playing as the same guy, and would wonder what it's like if you changed.

Or maybe you're playing a game like Street Fighter, where you happen to be good with a female character.

But generally speaking, if you're playing an RPG, and the game asks you, "are you a boy or are you a girl," I just prefer to, you know, tell the truth.


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It's weird when guys play as girls and vice versa.

If someone chooses to play as someone simply because they find them sexually attractive, they can go fuck themselves.
What if it's for other reasons though? Non sexual based, I mean?
Then that's fine.

Like, maybe there are different story options if you play as a girl. I can understand that.
Or maybe you're just tired of playing as the same guy, and would wonder what it's like if you changed.

Or maybe you're playing a game like Street Fighter, where you happen to be good with a female character.

But generally speaking, if you're playing an RPG, and the game asks you, "are you a boy or are you a girl," I just prefer to, you know, tell the truth.
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It's weird when guys play as girls and vice versa.

If someone chooses to play as someone simply because they find them sexually attractive, they can go fuck themselves.
It's an RPG. Role Playing.
Plus females generally have more detail and attention put into them, whereas guys are just generic looking.

Femshep is significantly better than Maleshep because Jennifer Hale shits on Mark Meer's voice acting.


 
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Enclave are trying to take over in Fallout 3 as well

what are you on about? That whole battle at the end was a battle.
Yes, but the focus was still shifted.
In Fallout 3 you have one guy and a radio channel until they come out of nowhere halfway into the game.
Even then the overwhelming theme in 3 is that mankind is trying to survive, not that a war is coming.
Well yeah, it had no government or force there to clean up, it was all anarchy. D.C. chapter was the only stabilizing thing that came in like 5 years ago.


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Plus females generally have more detail and attention put into them, whereas guys are just generic looking.
That's your bias showing.


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Plus females generally have more detail and attention put into them, whereas guys are just generic looking.
That's your bias showing.
ehh?


 
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It's an RPG. Role Playing.
I'm just saying--there are good ways to handle it. I've played RPGs where, instead of it asking you if you're a boy or a girl, it'll ask "what is your alter ego" or some shit. That makes more sense to me.

Or, like in Skyrim, where it doesn't ask you anything at all. That's a good way to handle it. Probably the best way.


 
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It's weird when guys play as girls and vice versa.

If someone chooses to play as someone simply because they find them sexually attractive, they can go fuck themselves.
It's an RPG. Role Playing.
Plus females generally have more detail and attention put into them, whereas guys are just generic looking.

Femshep is significantly better than Maleshep because Jennifer Hale shits on Mark Meer's voice acting.

I made a copy of generic manshep but black. He looks pissed 24/7 but it's hilarious in the paragon path.

Black manshep is best shep.


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It's an RPG. Role Playing.
I'm just saying--there are good ways to handle it. I've played RPGs where, instead of it asking you if you're a boy or a girl, it'll ask "what is your alter ego" or some shit. That makes more sense to me.

Or, like in Skyrim, where it doesn't ask you anything at all. That's a good way to handle it. Probably the best way.
What's the difference between being asked by the game to pick a gender, and just switching it in the character creation options?


 
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What's the difference between being asked by the game to pick a gender, and just switching it in the character creation options?
One's a lie, one isn't.

i just like people to be honest okay

it's not a big deal, it's just a pet peeve
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It's weird when guys play as girls and vice versa.

If someone chooses to play as someone simply because they find them sexually attractive, they can go fuck themselves.
What if it's for other reasons though? Non sexual based, I mean?
Then that's fine.

Like, maybe there are different story options if you play as a girl. I can understand that.
Or maybe you're just tired of playing as the same guy, and would wonder what it's like if you changed.

Or maybe you're playing a game like Street Fighter, where you happen to be good with a female character.

But generally speaking, if you're playing an RPG, and the game asks you, "are you a boy or are you a girl," I just prefer to, you know, tell the truth.

Well then at that point that's just your own particular tendancies. Nobody's gonna bust down your door if you pick the other option if it explicitely states and asks, "Are you a boy or girl?"

And it's not really a matter of telling the truth or lying because later on the game will probably ask what class you are.

Yes. I am a warrior most certainly and truthfully. I carry claymores around one handed all day every day and prefer to use axes like they're throwing knives.


 
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Turkey should learn to read scientific studies.

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And it's not really a matter of telling the truth or lying because later on the game will probably ask what class you are.

Yes. I am a warrior most certainly and truthfully. I carry claymores around one handed all day every day and prefer to use axes like they're throwing knives.
that's actually a pretty good point


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Turkey should learn to read scientific studies.

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Violent vidya and all that.


 
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And it's not really a matter of telling the truth or lying because later on the game will probably ask what class you are.

Yes. I am a warrior most certainly and truthfully. I carry claymores around one handed all day every day and prefer to use axes like they're throwing knives.
that's actually a pretty good point

I suppose, if you wanted, the most you could say at that point, was, "Which class would best describe you in this scenario?"

If you wanted to do the whole "I like being honest routine" on your part.

But then it just blends into the role playing aspect again. When a role playing game gives you questions like that, or, me at least, I pick the sex based off the class. Warrior classes tend to be dudes, mages and sneaks are more likely ladies.

You know what you should do Verb?

Make a game that plays on your honesty.

Make a couch potato class.


 
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You know what you should do Verb?

Make a game that plays on your honesty.

Make a couch potato class.
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You know what you should do Verb?

Make a game that plays on your honesty.

Make a couch potato class.
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Not being insulting here. I just lump gaming into being a bit of a couch potato. Calling it an "average gamer class" sounds lame.

Couch potato class sounds better.

Come to think of it. I want to see an rpg based off gamer stereotypes.


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Turkey should learn to read scientific studies.

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Violent vidya and all that.

Mm, yeah. The effect of violent media on people (particularly adolescents) is well-established. I wrote a research paper on it several years ago in school. I'm not saying it turns people into killers. There exists a quite vocal group of gamers that deny any sort of increase in aggression or arousal from playing games (or watching violent movies, or listening to violent music, etc.), which has been thoroughly refuted.

It's not exclusive, though. Sports tend to have a similar effect.
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Enclave are trying to take over in Fallout 3 as well

what are you on about? That whole battle at the end was a battle.
Yes, but the focus was still shifted.
In Fallout 3 you have one guy and a radio channel until they come out of nowhere halfway into the game.
Even then the overwhelming theme in 3 is that mankind is trying to survive, not that a war is coming.
Well yeah, it had no government or force there to clean up, it was all anarchy. D.C. chapter was the only stabilizing thing that came in like 5 years ago.
Exactly. Thanks for agreeing with me.

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