Quote from: Verbatim on October 23, 2015, 02:15:04 PMQuote from: Notch's little brother on October 23, 2015, 02:13:05 PMHumans aren't the only species that engages in acts of violence and crueltyWhich is why I hate all life.Quoteand I'd wager that the majority of human beings don't find torture, killing and destruction to be very appealing at all.Doesn't change anything. QuoteAlso, not everyone dies in an awful manner.Enough do to make hating life completely justified.What's the point in hating all life because conflict and cruelty exist?
Quote from: Notch's little brother on October 23, 2015, 02:13:05 PMHumans aren't the only species that engages in acts of violence and crueltyWhich is why I hate all life.Quoteand I'd wager that the majority of human beings don't find torture, killing and destruction to be very appealing at all.Doesn't change anything. QuoteAlso, not everyone dies in an awful manner.Enough do to make hating life completely justified.
Humans aren't the only species that engages in acts of violence and cruelty
and I'd wager that the majority of human beings don't find torture, killing and destruction to be very appealing at all.
Also, not everyone dies in an awful manner.
How exactly would it be filthy?
What's the point in hating all life because conflict and cruelty exist?
How do you go about life daily without melting down?
Quote from: Notch's little brother on October 23, 2015, 02:19:04 PMWhat's the point in hating all life because conflict and cruelty exist?What a stupid question.Why shouldn't I hate life because conflict and cruelty exist? QuoteHow do you go about life daily without melting down?I don't know.
Really though, how do you go about life daily without having constant mental breakdowns? Given how miserable you are it astonishes me that you're able to function like a normal person in any capacity.
Quote from: Deadtrap on October 23, 2015, 02:16:41 PMHow exactly would it be filthy?Give me any sexual fetish and I will tell you why it's filthy.
Quote from: Prime Megaten on October 23, 2015, 02:14:21 PMI feel like this discussion doesn't really have anything to do with misogyny anymore tbh.Let the Verb v. World arguments commenceWell, it's just one of those things where I just have a fundamental disagreement with someone else's values.You can't believe this, unless you concede this, this, this, and that first.Once you agree that sexuality is just a filthy product of human psychology that isn't worth celebrating in interactive media, then you can start identifying much easier the ways in which the female body is exploited in video games.But you can't do that unless you identify why you should hate sexuality first, and that's why these broader subjects crop up. It's necessary to discuss them in order to see where I'm coming from.
I feel like this discussion doesn't really have anything to do with misogyny anymore tbh.Let the Verb v. World arguments commence
Quote from: Notch's little brother on October 23, 2015, 02:26:26 PMReally though, how do you go about life daily without having constant mental breakdowns? Given how miserable you are it astonishes me that you're able to function like a normal person in any capacity.I have absolutely no desire whatsoever to talk about my personal life with you.
Maybe it's just pessimistic thinking on my part, but there's a slim-to-none chance that any of the people you're talking to will concede that. This is going to be 10+ pages of whether sexuality is disgusting or not, then whether humanity should exist or not, then the final solution.
Quote from: Prime Megaten on October 23, 2015, 02:28:08 PMMaybe it's just pessimistic thinking on my part, but there's a slim-to-none chance that any of the people you're talking to will concede that. This is going to be 10+ pages of whether sexuality is disgusting or not, then whether humanity should exist or not, then the final solution.Oh, of course they're not gonna concede that. They're too lost in the status quo. So why am I arguing?Good question.
I don't blame you for that and it wasn't really a personal question. It's just shocking that you can even function.
Why do any of you care about Verbatim's retarded opinions?"I think sexuality is disgusting"Ok. Good for you. Ducking drop it people. Everybody's welcome to their retarded opinions. We don't need a 10 page argument of the same shit every time he starts peddling his bullshit.
Quote from: Notch's little brother on October 23, 2015, 02:29:07 PMI don't blame you for that and it wasn't really a personal question. It's just shocking that you can even function.Whatever. Like Aria said, I really think we should just stop here. We're not going anywhere. I'm sorry for the way I've been talking to you, but understand how much this subject means to me.I still don't think dressing women tastefully in video games is a whole lot to task for.
Oh. And you'd better answer my statement there Verb. Because I just stated something from my own perspective. Something that I see as positive. Something that attracts me.I want to see if you can point out anything to me that would make me think about my stance in another light, since from your stance, anything and everything sexual is filthy.
Quote from: Deadtrap on October 23, 2015, 02:43:19 PMOh. And you'd better answer my statement there Verb. Because I just stated something from my own perspective. Something that I see as positive. Something that attracts me.I want to see if you can point out anything to me that would make me think about my stance in another light, since from your stance, anything and everything sexual is filthy.Do you recall the discussion I had with a couple users on dopamine?
Chemical substance that shows up in response to something that makes you feel good.What exactly would be filthy about that?
Quote from: Deadtrap on October 23, 2015, 02:57:10 PMChemical substance that shows up in response to something that makes you feel good.What exactly would be filthy about that?The idea that you'd receive them for decidedly unproductive reasons.
And what counts as productive in your eyes?I mean that in the sense of a universal constant. Give me something that is universally productive to do at all times. We assign meaning to our existence don't we? Therefore, something that means anything to us can count as productive can it not?
Quote from: Deadtrap on October 23, 2015, 03:01:40 PMAnd what counts as productive in your eyes?I mean that in the sense of a universal constant. Give me something that is universally productive to do at all times. We assign meaning to our existence don't we? Therefore, something that means anything to us can count as productive can it not?There are objectively productive things, like curing diseases and feeding the hungry, doing good work, that should make you happy.
And you don't think, that let's say, during the night, when it's quiet, and there's no more work to be done for the day, that it wouldn't be nice to enjoy some peace and quiet with somebody close to you? From my stance, I enjoy making people feel good. What's special to me about an intimate partner is that I would have the opportunity to do that.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 23, 2015, 11:25:11 AMLock Requested.So I forgot to actually lock it and Elsie pointed out that we shouldn't just rubber stamp lock requests, if people are just disagreeing then that's not really lockable >_>
Lock Requested.
Quote from: Deadtrap on October 23, 2015, 03:15:46 PMAnd you don't think, that let's say, during the night, when it's quiet, and there's no more work to be done for the day, that it wouldn't be nice to enjoy some peace and quiet with somebody close to you? From my stance, I enjoy making people feel good. What's special to me about an intimate partner is that I would have the opportunity to do that.Me too. The thing is, in my opinion, that kind of thing transcends sexuality, because one's sexuality is all about one's own personal preferences--what makes you feel good, with no regard for anyone else. Once you add other parties into the equation, it becomes less about sexuality, and more about intimacy, and that, to me, is different. Intimacy, and the desire to want to make someone else feel good, is much better than wanting to make yourself feel good (sexuality).You see, the dirtiness of sexuality comes almost entirely from the selfishness of it. You don't recognize any other parties but your own. To me, that's gross.
Apparently there's been a recent change in policy, because I tried getting my 1984 thread locked as well, but to no avail. Like, towards the end of the thread, too. Not just because people were disagreeing with me, or anything. It was just starting to become too much of a shitshow for Serious, I thought.
If you help people because you like to help people, and that it makes you happy, then it's still self centered isn't it? It's still an exchange, just in a different manner.You give your time, or efforts, to somebody. And in exchange, from them, you gain happiness.That's still selfish.
Quote from: Deadtrap on October 23, 2015, 03:33:39 PMIf you help people because you like to help people, and that it makes you happy, then it's still self centered isn't it? It's still an exchange, just in a different manner.You give your time, or efforts, to somebody. And in exchange, from them, you gain happiness.That's still selfish.There are no selfless deeds--everyone knows this. My point is that it makes more sense to be happy over certain things than other things. It makes sense to be happy because someone else is happy. It makes sense to be happy that you just helped someone out.It doesn't make sense to be happy over making white stuff come out of your dick.It doesn't make sense to be happy over inhaling cannabis smoke into your lungs.Et cetera.If you didn't actually accomplish anything worthwhile, it doesn't make sense to be happy about it.Which is why I hate dopamine, because it causes us to be pleasured by irrational things.