You think the next Elder Scrolls will have depth to begin with?

TES: Skyrim II: Electric Boogaloo

depth

Quote from: Comet on January 10, 2015, 06:47:32 AM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on January 10, 2015, 06:44:41 AM

Compare this video to the 2nd video in the OP.

honestly i cant tell the difference.

Did you even watch any of the videos? Half swording isn't in any of the games and for the 2nd video you don't get locked in combat like that. You just bounce your sword off the guy or whatever. If you actually watched the videos you can tell that half sword isn't in the games and that the combat isn't anything like the 2nd video.

Guys, the problem with completely realistic HEMA in video games is that it's just too quick on reactions and doesn't make for fun or sometimes eve fair gameplay.

I'm sure it could be toned down a little though. At most I want to see other sword forms besides slashing and some type of locking.

TES would be so much better with Dark Souls style combat.

Christ, no.

I don't see why you people care about swordplay in TES so much. It's a fantasy game with magic and fucking lizard tree people.

TES has NEVER had deep combat and it has never needed it. The most complex system it ever had was Morrowind's, and that just boiled down to spamming whichever attack type was most efficient with your equipped weapon.

If you want deep combat, that's what games like Dank Souls and Chivalry are for, not TES.

Now, the area where TES really IS suffering, depth-wise, is in the leveling and equipment systems. That's what you should be worried about.

If it did, OP, maybe I'd give a shit about this terrible series of games.

Quote from: Comet on January 10, 2015, 11:21:54 PM

Quote from: Comet on January 10, 2015, 06:47:32 AM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on January 10, 2015, 06:44:41 AM

Compare this video to the 2nd video in the OP.

honestly i cant tell the difference.

Did you even watch any of the videos? Half swording isn't in any of the games and for the 2nd video you don't get locked in combat like that. You just bounce your sword off the guy or whatever. If you actually watched the videos you can tell that half sword isn't in the games and that the combat isn't anything like the 2nd video.

half sword fighting was in the first vid and is different they the hack-slash of Skyrim yes. id be ok with that.
the second video is a clusterfuck. i cant see how that 'style' would be implemented past QTEs.

i'd like for them to add some depth to the magic combat, too. skyrim's magic was so fucking boring. destruction was only "hard" because you had to aim.. the most fundamental gameplay mechanic there is... everything else was even easier than melee combat, especially conjuration.

I don't see why you people care about swordplay in TES so much. It's a fantasy game with magic and fucking lizard tree people.

So what does it being a fantasy game have to do with anything? The swordplay in this game is boring as shit. Why not add any depth to it or add more forms to it?

TES has NEVER had deep combat and it has never needed it. The most complex system it ever had was Morrowind's, and that just boiled down to spamming whichever attack type was most efficient with your equipped weapon.

They tried a character based system which makes sense. It's an RPG and not a FPS game so it does make sense to have the game centered around your character more. It just ended up being too RNG. With some fixing up it could have worked.

If you want deep combat, that's what games like Dank Souls and Chivalry are for, not TES.

So why should I have to play other games? That's just retarded. I'm not asking for the game to be as changeling as Dark Souls. We simply want the combat in this game to be a lot more fun.

Now, the area where TES really IS suffering, depth-wise, is in the leveling and equipment systems. That's what you should be worried about.

And wouldn't you think the gameplay as well would be a good focus to?  The game can have the greatest story ever and it still wouldn't change much when the gameplay is lacking. For Skyrim I downloaded a bunch of mods that fix things and I still don't play the game because the gameplay is shit. It's boring as fuck.

Nah, it's just going to get more hack and slash.