Bullshit things in games?

Luciana · March 23, 2015, 11:41:51 AM

Quote from: AngryBrute on March 23, 2015, 10:28:06 AM

]Its just the lie for me. I dont mind it one way or the other. They seem to place the FPS in contributing to making their game feel "cinematic" when thats the other stuffs job.

It was Ubisoft that said it. That alone should make you realize it is a freaking lie and they're too lazy to push for 60. Besides, promoting something like this, much like EA's online passes, is something horrible for the industry.

You should be demanding the best out of the games you get, not a comfortable routine thing. I'm just glad people realize it's shit. I'm also glad EA got rid of online passes.

Luciana · March 23, 2015, 11:54:27 AM

Oh, Verb mentioned this in another thread

Season Passes. The main turnoff for me with Battlefront 3 is an "aggressive DLC plan" by EA.

Aka: Things taken out of the game and thrown in via season pass

Luciana · March 23, 2015, 11:57:18 AM

Sorry for multiple posts, I just keep thinking of more.

Uhh... I think remaster's for this next gen is just silly. As a video brought up, so far the library for next gen stuff isn't that great and the highest game scores are of remasters from LAST gen/ports.

Last of Us, Halo, Dark Souls 2 soon, God of War 3, Tomb Raider, etc etc.

Verbatim · March 23, 2015, 12:01:40 PM

Quote from: Luciana on March 23, 2015, 11:36:10 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 23, 2015, 09:38:07 AM
Mods
I'm gonna regret asking but

why?

Every single time someone asks me this question, and I explain it, a shitstorm starts, so I'm gonna keep it simple.

I prefer to play games strictly in vanilla.

That's how the developers made the game, that's how the developers intended the game to be, and that's how I'm going to play the game.

To me, there is no such thing as a "lore friendly" mod. Any mod that could be conceived as "lore friendly" is something that the developers should have done themselves. For example--better graphics mods. It shouldn't be up to the community to fix your broke-ass game. The game should be good out of the gate. I shouldn't have to mod the game just to enjoy it, and if I have to, then why even bother? Play a game that's good even without mods.

I wouldn't be surprised if less man hours were put into a game's development, just because the developers knew that there would be a whole community of people who would be willing to fix everything for them through mods. I mean, I don't know if that's ever actually happened, but I don't think it's too far-fetched of a scheme.

Luciana · March 23, 2015, 12:06:15 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 23, 2015, 12:01:40 PM

Quote from: Luciana on March 23, 2015, 11:36:10 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on March 23, 2015, 09:38:07 AM
Mods
I'm gonna regret asking but

why?
Every single time someone asks me this question, and I explain it, a shitstorm starts, so I'm gonna keep it simple.

I prefer to play games strictly in vanilla.

That's how the developers made the game, that's how the developers intended the game to be, and that's how I'm going to play the game.

To me, there is no such thing as a "lore friendly" mod. Any mod that could be conceived as "lore friendly" is something that the developers should have done themselves. For example--better graphics mods. It shouldn't be up to the community to fix your broke-ass game. The game should be good out of the gate. I shouldn't have to mod the game just to enjoy it, and if I have to, then why even bother? Play a game that's good even without mods.

You know what? I agree with you. Like, I'll take mods for say, Skyrim to help improve the game, but at the same time I actually say "Why should you have to NEED mods to make a game better? The developers should have done this anyway."

Graphics mods for age old games I can understand, but when you need to fix a PORT of a game (Skyrim, Dark Souls) because of the developers laziness, there is really no excuse.

PSU · March 23, 2015, 12:08:47 PM

Sprint and AAs in halo.

Luciana · March 23, 2015, 12:11:59 PM

Quote from: PSU on March 23, 2015, 12:08:47 PM

Sprint and AAs in halo.

I dunno how it will be in Halo 5, but I do think Halo 4 was way too influenced by CoD.

Luciana · March 23, 2015, 12:15:57 PM

Yearly releases is another one

Sports I can understand (I enjoy FIFA but even as a soccer nerd, I know better than to get it every year), but games like CoD and Assassins Creed show that they're only in it for the money with little upgrades.

Which is a shame too because AC used to be good and actually have some effort put into it. But naturally, Ubisoft is just messing up everything.

Flee · March 23, 2015, 12:48:29 PM

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Mordo · March 23, 2015, 12:48:41 PM

Purposefully misleading players during gaming conferences such as E3 and Pax.

Aliens Colonial Marines, Watch Dogs and Destiny were notorious for this. The only game I can recall that actually lived up to its expectations and marketing was The Last Of Us.

Verbatim · March 23, 2015, 12:50:48 PM

Quote from: Flee on March 23, 2015, 12:48:29 PM

Quote from: Luciana on March 23, 2015, 11:57:18 AM
Sorry for multiple posts, I just keep thinking of more.
You can edit your previous posts, by the way.

but no one's gonna go back and read it

Flee · March 23, 2015, 12:54:27 PM

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Verbatim · March 23, 2015, 01:11:11 PM

i'm just saying, that's probably her reasoning

Sex scenes/romance scenes (always awkward, always unnecessary, and always forced)
Loading screens that show you what all of the buttons do (as if I'm ever going to memorize all of that) instead of letting me figure out what all the buttons do on my own
Tutorials that insult your intelligence--I don't need to be told how to walk or jump or shoot. Thank you.
I think Isara mentioned this one: Microtransactions. In-game purchases that have you spending as low as $0.05 for some little garment for your character.
Over-casualization of a series once lauded for its competitive merit; or the jettisoning of all the nuance that made a game good in order to appeal to a wider audience (from melee to brawl).

Luciana · March 23, 2015, 01:12:10 PM

Quote from: Flee on March 23, 2015, 12:48:29 PM

Quote from: Luciana on March 23, 2015, 11:57:18 AM
Sorry for multiple posts, I just keep thinking of more.
You can edit your previous posts, by the way.

I can but shh

Naru · March 23, 2015, 01:21:34 PM

When the loading screen is up and it gives you a useless tip on the game. Like, stop.

Big Boss · March 23, 2015, 01:40:48 PM

When you're doing a multi battle with your friend in Pokemon, and they faint. Rather than being able to send out your own Pokemon in their place, you are stuck with an empty spot next to you and it turns into a 2v1 gank.

A salt rifle · March 23, 2015, 02:27:13 PM

Quote from: Naru on March 23, 2015, 01:21:34 PM

When the loading screen is up and it gives you a useless tip on the game. Like, stop.

"Use your weapon to attack enemies."

"Use your flaslight to see in dark areas."

"Warning: You are low on health. Use healing items to replenish health."

Verbatim · March 23, 2015, 02:48:11 PM

I have a bunch more, but they kinda straddle the line between "bullshit" and "pet peeve".

Ushan · March 23, 2015, 04:07:28 PM

Crap story telling for the most part.

Ásgeirr · March 23, 2015, 04:18:37 PM

Invisible walls.

I dont mind them on the borders of maps that much but when they are in the middle of the map somewhere its just bullshit.

Looking at you New Vegas

gats · March 23, 2015, 04:22:09 PM

lag.

Tyger · March 23, 2015, 05:19:20 PM

Quote from: Naru on March 23, 2015, 01:21:34 PM

When the loading screen is up and it gives you a useless tip on the game. Like, stop.

> be 75 hours into a game

"You can shoot your weapon with the right trigger"

Gee thanks!

True Turquoise · March 23, 2015, 05:33:36 PM

Premium

cough

Luis · March 23, 2015, 08:21:05 PM

Rathalos Ruby

Luis · March 23, 2015, 08:22:15 PM

Quote from: Big Boss on March 23, 2015, 01:40:48 PM

When you're doing a multi battle with your friend in Pokemon, and they faint. Rather than being able to send out your own Pokemon in their place, you are stuck with an empty spot next to you and it turns into a 2v1 gank.

ooohhh this so much

CK97 · March 23, 2015, 08:30:46 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 23, 2015, 09:38:07 AM

RNG-centric gameplay where the outcome of a battle is determined less by your own skill/mental finesse, and more by a series of arbitrary digital coin flips (very common in RPGs)

Same, and yet I still love Pokemon.

Verbatim · March 23, 2015, 08:42:54 PM

pokemon is actually one of the better examples, because even though there's a lot of RNG, you can still win and have it be largely based on your wits (i don't think competitive battling would be anywhere near as popular if it was all just bullshit)

there are far worse examples out there

🍁 Aria 🔮 · March 23, 2015, 10:30:09 PM

Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 23, 2015, 12:48:41 PM

Purposefully misleading players during gaming conferences such as E3 and Pax.

Aliens Colonial Marines, Watch Dogs and Destiny were notorious for this. The only game I can recall that actually lived up to its expectations and marketing was The Last Of Us.

Shame about the AI intelligence though.

Naoto · March 23, 2015, 11:14:37 PM

Dying whenever you touch water is super dumb.

Isara · March 24, 2015, 12:37:04 AM

Well, what is to keep in mind is that in the game industry AI is trying to simulate intelligence. So it's all smoke and mirrors.

Quote from: Prime Meridia on March 23, 2015, 10:30:09 PM

Shame about the AI intelligence though.