You have a bloodstained that you walk up to an click X on to retrieve your souls. Literally the only thing that drops when you die.

Yeah that

you don't lose your stuff, just the money you could easily farm again

That's still too much. You shouldn't lose anything. Invasions shouldn't be a thing. You guys are wrong.

At least Luciana's honest--Aria didn't say anything about losing money (unless souls ARE your money). And no, I don't care that you can just farm it back again.

I play it offline lol

Explaining why you like consensual pvps is just off the fucking subject. Justify nonconsensual pvps.
You can't.

the answer is probably "i'm apathetic"

you know, that's just really convenient

because if you admitted that it was a bad thing, you'd have to start disliking the game more
and that would be a bummer, so you don't admit it

that's honestly what i think the "apathy" thing is
there's so many intelligent, sensible things to be apathetic about, and you pick the #1 thing you shouldn't be apathetic about

generally speaking, it's only rational to care about whether other people are getting fucked over
you don't have to weep for every single person who does--i certainly don't

but when asked about the notion of never having the option to fuck another person over?
your first answer should be "YES. LET'S NOT FUCK PEOPLE OVER."

it's a conversation that extends far beyond just this stupid video game, and that's why i'm so passionate about it
the game thinks it's okay to fuck people over, and I say, "No, it isn't. Fuck you."

and if YOU think it's okay, then fuck you too

Good lord I left off and thought the dust settled here. Anywho. I'll say this. Dark Souls II, especially, is a circle. I mean that in the sense that it takes the fuck you mechanic to the other side as well.

Are you aware that people make characters, specifically designed to be invaded?

There's a piece of equipment that boosts the rate invaders can join your world. These people not only want you to invade but they've everything planned. Buffs that make them near invincible, spells that break your armour and weapons and when you lose you get sent back to your world with no souls, a used orb to invade, and completely broken equipment.

Now, what I'm trying to establish here is that they don't just throw the player to invader wolves. Far from it. In fact in Souls II, spefically, it's the host who has the advantage. Co-op partners who they can summon at any time.

An item that turns your world's enemies against invaders.

Spells that camoflague you.

Spells that are capable of instantly killing a player if you catch them.

Environmental traps.

So it's not sort of a fuck you to hosts. Invaders have to be ready for anything. Being outnumbered. Searching for the host. Dealing with all the enemies in the world suddenly attacking you.  I would argue that an invader almost always has the odds against them.

Now then. I know that won't provide any consolation to you but I've a point here.

People are strange. Video games capitalize on that nature. Logically speaking you'd think your answer would be "yes, let's not fuck people over."

But logically speaking, any sane human being wouldn't say "yes, I want to beat the shit out of that other person." Unless it was a fighting game.

Logically, a sane person should not want to go out and shoot other people/things over objectives/objects/fun.

Unless it was a shooter game.

Logically speaking, nobody would throw themselves into a close example of a horrifying environment portrayed in video games, unless of course it was a horror game.

So. Back to the point.

People, are strange.

Logically speaking, you could make a great many assumptions about people. And they would all be met with opposition because we've demonstrated that we oppose logic as much as some seek it.

That's people for you. Pick your side of the coin and off you roll.

literal proof of me ruining other players dark souls 2 experience

Verb. Verrb verb verb. You can take it a step further even beyond video games. Movies. Movies have higher chances of inciting emotional responses over video games. They can incite stronger emotional reactions.

Logically speaking you don't want to be afraid. If you know the feeling of fear then you know it's not a fun feeling to know. Where video games capitalize on the action and intent aspect of doing something with a player, movies capitalize on immersion.

A horror movie that does it's job.

When you watch a sad movie, a happy movie, a funny movie that makes you laugh, or a horror movie that makes you jump or scream or tense.

Those reactions are real.

So logically speaking there should be no sound reason to pay to go to a movie and scare yourself.

And yet there it is.

It isn't just dark souls Verb. Your attention is just focused on that particular aspect because you didn't enjoy it. You thought about it. But really, it's all around us. We compromise our logic constantly.

i get what you're trying to say, but ultimately, you're leaving out the whole notion of consent, which is where my contentions lie

i don't watch scary movies because i think wanting to be scared is irrational--and anyone who does like being scared, i demand an expalanation from them

and you always get the same responses, too
"the adrenaline"

as if there aren't better/smarter ways of getting adrenaline pumping
like, go outside and ride a bike or something

you're right in saying that we contradict logic constantly--and i think that's an inherent flaw in our psychology
i, personally, choose not to break logic as much as i can

i don't know if what you're doing right now is trying to justify illogical behavior, so i won't pretend like i do
but i will say that it most certainly does not justify illogical behavior--no matter how many people do it, no matter how often

You know what I do when I don't want to be invaded in Bloodborne?

Use the offline mode that they added to the game

You know what I do when I don't want to be invaded in Bloodborne?

Use the offline mode that they added to the game

But what if

I die

In the

Tutorial


CUNT

You know what I do when I don't want to be invaded in Bloodborne?

Use the offline mode that they added to the game

this will be my THIRD time explaining this:

that doesn't prevent all nonconsensual invasions from occurring

it's still a part of the game, and censoring it for yourself won't change that

Quote from: A Cheese Potato on April 07, 2015, 10:09:59 PM

literal proof of me ruining other players dark souls 2 experience

<_<

I saw that message

u cheeky fucker

which one

Quote from: A Cheese Potato on April 09, 2015, 03:28:19 AM

Quote from: True Turquoise on April 09, 2015, 02:42:20 AM

Quote from: A Cheese Potato on April 07, 2015, 10:09:59 PM

literal proof of me ruining other players dark souls 2 experience

<_<

I saw that message

u cheeky fucker

which one

The wheel one

A lot of people are enjoying the "Be wary of giant but hole" I put behind the first dead giant tree you see

lol