Quote from: Lemon x Naru on November 25, 2015, 07:19:31 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:16:15 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 07:13:11 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:11:50 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:06:38 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:02:25 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:00:04 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:54:43 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 06:41:52 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:39:21 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 05:48:48 PMThere doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)I wouldn't use the word "fine" to describe how bad they are handling the story in those game. One single quest line in the Wither 3 has more content to it than at least half of stock(No DLC.) Oblivion or Skyrim.The Witcher 3 best game all year every yearI think it's safe to say that game set a new standard for RPG's and action adventures that are the same setup. What I love is how they handled that cross dressing Elf. Instead of forcing him right away like that transgender character in Dragonage. You instead find out he dresses that way in a quest and his reasoning why was done good. He does it because he feels he can be anybody he wants to be when he wears those clothes.I want to play Witcher but it just seems like another fantasy RPG (I only got into elder scrolls because it was by the same guys as Fallout 3) Same for dragon age. And also the fact I feel obliged to play the first two games in each series to understand what's going on. It wouldn't feel right, jumping in on the third installment.You don't actually need to play the first two to get the story of the third, they do a fantastic job of telling you the events of the previous games, plus the story of the third isn't directly connected to the first two. The Witcher is actually a book series that was turned into a game, it's a fantastic universe and I love it. I guess it is kind of generic fantasy, but it's just so well done oh my gosh.Honestly, I count most western fantasy as generic fantasy because it all feels like a rip off of Tolkein. Not a bad thing, but it all feels very samey after a while.The only fantasy stuff I'd consider to be not generic (that I know of) is Souls (as much as I dislike the series, I admire how it makes an effort to not be medieval england) and to an extent, ASOIAF. Though the latter is more because there's not really much in the way of magic in it (as opposed to LOTR) and it's a lot grittier than most fantasy.That said, I do intend to play TW3 someday. But when someday is, I have no fucking clue.I believe The Witcher is based off of Polish folklore, it's actually really coolHave you got the chance to read The Witcher Books?Naw, I'd be down for giving them a try at some point though, they seem really interestingNot all of them have an English translation yetYeah, was wondering about thatOh well
Quote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:16:15 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 07:13:11 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:11:50 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:06:38 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:02:25 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:00:04 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:54:43 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 06:41:52 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:39:21 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 05:48:48 PMThere doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)I wouldn't use the word "fine" to describe how bad they are handling the story in those game. One single quest line in the Wither 3 has more content to it than at least half of stock(No DLC.) Oblivion or Skyrim.The Witcher 3 best game all year every yearI think it's safe to say that game set a new standard for RPG's and action adventures that are the same setup. What I love is how they handled that cross dressing Elf. Instead of forcing him right away like that transgender character in Dragonage. You instead find out he dresses that way in a quest and his reasoning why was done good. He does it because he feels he can be anybody he wants to be when he wears those clothes.I want to play Witcher but it just seems like another fantasy RPG (I only got into elder scrolls because it was by the same guys as Fallout 3) Same for dragon age. And also the fact I feel obliged to play the first two games in each series to understand what's going on. It wouldn't feel right, jumping in on the third installment.You don't actually need to play the first two to get the story of the third, they do a fantastic job of telling you the events of the previous games, plus the story of the third isn't directly connected to the first two. The Witcher is actually a book series that was turned into a game, it's a fantastic universe and I love it. I guess it is kind of generic fantasy, but it's just so well done oh my gosh.Honestly, I count most western fantasy as generic fantasy because it all feels like a rip off of Tolkein. Not a bad thing, but it all feels very samey after a while.The only fantasy stuff I'd consider to be not generic (that I know of) is Souls (as much as I dislike the series, I admire how it makes an effort to not be medieval england) and to an extent, ASOIAF. Though the latter is more because there's not really much in the way of magic in it (as opposed to LOTR) and it's a lot grittier than most fantasy.That said, I do intend to play TW3 someday. But when someday is, I have no fucking clue.I believe The Witcher is based off of Polish folklore, it's actually really coolHave you got the chance to read The Witcher Books?Naw, I'd be down for giving them a try at some point though, they seem really interestingNot all of them have an English translation yet
Quote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 07:13:11 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:11:50 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:06:38 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:02:25 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:00:04 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:54:43 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 06:41:52 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:39:21 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 05:48:48 PMThere doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)I wouldn't use the word "fine" to describe how bad they are handling the story in those game. One single quest line in the Wither 3 has more content to it than at least half of stock(No DLC.) Oblivion or Skyrim.The Witcher 3 best game all year every yearI think it's safe to say that game set a new standard for RPG's and action adventures that are the same setup. What I love is how they handled that cross dressing Elf. Instead of forcing him right away like that transgender character in Dragonage. You instead find out he dresses that way in a quest and his reasoning why was done good. He does it because he feels he can be anybody he wants to be when he wears those clothes.I want to play Witcher but it just seems like another fantasy RPG (I only got into elder scrolls because it was by the same guys as Fallout 3) Same for dragon age. And also the fact I feel obliged to play the first two games in each series to understand what's going on. It wouldn't feel right, jumping in on the third installment.You don't actually need to play the first two to get the story of the third, they do a fantastic job of telling you the events of the previous games, plus the story of the third isn't directly connected to the first two. The Witcher is actually a book series that was turned into a game, it's a fantastic universe and I love it. I guess it is kind of generic fantasy, but it's just so well done oh my gosh.Honestly, I count most western fantasy as generic fantasy because it all feels like a rip off of Tolkein. Not a bad thing, but it all feels very samey after a while.The only fantasy stuff I'd consider to be not generic (that I know of) is Souls (as much as I dislike the series, I admire how it makes an effort to not be medieval england) and to an extent, ASOIAF. Though the latter is more because there's not really much in the way of magic in it (as opposed to LOTR) and it's a lot grittier than most fantasy.That said, I do intend to play TW3 someday. But when someday is, I have no fucking clue.I believe The Witcher is based off of Polish folklore, it's actually really coolHave you got the chance to read The Witcher Books?Naw, I'd be down for giving them a try at some point though, they seem really interesting
Quote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:11:50 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:06:38 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:02:25 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:00:04 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:54:43 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 06:41:52 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:39:21 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 05:48:48 PMThere doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)I wouldn't use the word "fine" to describe how bad they are handling the story in those game. One single quest line in the Wither 3 has more content to it than at least half of stock(No DLC.) Oblivion or Skyrim.The Witcher 3 best game all year every yearI think it's safe to say that game set a new standard for RPG's and action adventures that are the same setup. What I love is how they handled that cross dressing Elf. Instead of forcing him right away like that transgender character in Dragonage. You instead find out he dresses that way in a quest and his reasoning why was done good. He does it because he feels he can be anybody he wants to be when he wears those clothes.I want to play Witcher but it just seems like another fantasy RPG (I only got into elder scrolls because it was by the same guys as Fallout 3) Same for dragon age. And also the fact I feel obliged to play the first two games in each series to understand what's going on. It wouldn't feel right, jumping in on the third installment.You don't actually need to play the first two to get the story of the third, they do a fantastic job of telling you the events of the previous games, plus the story of the third isn't directly connected to the first two. The Witcher is actually a book series that was turned into a game, it's a fantastic universe and I love it. I guess it is kind of generic fantasy, but it's just so well done oh my gosh.Honestly, I count most western fantasy as generic fantasy because it all feels like a rip off of Tolkein. Not a bad thing, but it all feels very samey after a while.The only fantasy stuff I'd consider to be not generic (that I know of) is Souls (as much as I dislike the series, I admire how it makes an effort to not be medieval england) and to an extent, ASOIAF. Though the latter is more because there's not really much in the way of magic in it (as opposed to LOTR) and it's a lot grittier than most fantasy.That said, I do intend to play TW3 someday. But when someday is, I have no fucking clue.I believe The Witcher is based off of Polish folklore, it's actually really coolHave you got the chance to read The Witcher Books?
Quote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:06:38 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:02:25 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:00:04 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:54:43 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 06:41:52 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:39:21 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 05:48:48 PMThere doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)I wouldn't use the word "fine" to describe how bad they are handling the story in those game. One single quest line in the Wither 3 has more content to it than at least half of stock(No DLC.) Oblivion or Skyrim.The Witcher 3 best game all year every yearI think it's safe to say that game set a new standard for RPG's and action adventures that are the same setup. What I love is how they handled that cross dressing Elf. Instead of forcing him right away like that transgender character in Dragonage. You instead find out he dresses that way in a quest and his reasoning why was done good. He does it because he feels he can be anybody he wants to be when he wears those clothes.I want to play Witcher but it just seems like another fantasy RPG (I only got into elder scrolls because it was by the same guys as Fallout 3) Same for dragon age. And also the fact I feel obliged to play the first two games in each series to understand what's going on. It wouldn't feel right, jumping in on the third installment.You don't actually need to play the first two to get the story of the third, they do a fantastic job of telling you the events of the previous games, plus the story of the third isn't directly connected to the first two. The Witcher is actually a book series that was turned into a game, it's a fantastic universe and I love it. I guess it is kind of generic fantasy, but it's just so well done oh my gosh.Honestly, I count most western fantasy as generic fantasy because it all feels like a rip off of Tolkein. Not a bad thing, but it all feels very samey after a while.The only fantasy stuff I'd consider to be not generic (that I know of) is Souls (as much as I dislike the series, I admire how it makes an effort to not be medieval england) and to an extent, ASOIAF. Though the latter is more because there's not really much in the way of magic in it (as opposed to LOTR) and it's a lot grittier than most fantasy.That said, I do intend to play TW3 someday. But when someday is, I have no fucking clue.I believe The Witcher is based off of Polish folklore, it's actually really cool
Quote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:02:25 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:00:04 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:54:43 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 06:41:52 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:39:21 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 05:48:48 PMThere doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)I wouldn't use the word "fine" to describe how bad they are handling the story in those game. One single quest line in the Wither 3 has more content to it than at least half of stock(No DLC.) Oblivion or Skyrim.The Witcher 3 best game all year every yearI think it's safe to say that game set a new standard for RPG's and action adventures that are the same setup. What I love is how they handled that cross dressing Elf. Instead of forcing him right away like that transgender character in Dragonage. You instead find out he dresses that way in a quest and his reasoning why was done good. He does it because he feels he can be anybody he wants to be when he wears those clothes.I want to play Witcher but it just seems like another fantasy RPG (I only got into elder scrolls because it was by the same guys as Fallout 3) Same for dragon age. And also the fact I feel obliged to play the first two games in each series to understand what's going on. It wouldn't feel right, jumping in on the third installment.You don't actually need to play the first two to get the story of the third, they do a fantastic job of telling you the events of the previous games, plus the story of the third isn't directly connected to the first two. The Witcher is actually a book series that was turned into a game, it's a fantastic universe and I love it. I guess it is kind of generic fantasy, but it's just so well done oh my gosh.Honestly, I count most western fantasy as generic fantasy because it all feels like a rip off of Tolkein. Not a bad thing, but it all feels very samey after a while.The only fantasy stuff I'd consider to be not generic (that I know of) is Souls (as much as I dislike the series, I admire how it makes an effort to not be medieval england) and to an extent, ASOIAF. Though the latter is more because there's not really much in the way of magic in it (as opposed to LOTR) and it's a lot grittier than most fantasy.That said, I do intend to play TW3 someday. But when someday is, I have no fucking clue.
Quote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:00:04 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:54:43 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 06:41:52 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:39:21 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 05:48:48 PMThere doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)I wouldn't use the word "fine" to describe how bad they are handling the story in those game. One single quest line in the Wither 3 has more content to it than at least half of stock(No DLC.) Oblivion or Skyrim.The Witcher 3 best game all year every yearI think it's safe to say that game set a new standard for RPG's and action adventures that are the same setup. What I love is how they handled that cross dressing Elf. Instead of forcing him right away like that transgender character in Dragonage. You instead find out he dresses that way in a quest and his reasoning why was done good. He does it because he feels he can be anybody he wants to be when he wears those clothes.I want to play Witcher but it just seems like another fantasy RPG (I only got into elder scrolls because it was by the same guys as Fallout 3) Same for dragon age. And also the fact I feel obliged to play the first two games in each series to understand what's going on. It wouldn't feel right, jumping in on the third installment.You don't actually need to play the first two to get the story of the third, they do a fantastic job of telling you the events of the previous games, plus the story of the third isn't directly connected to the first two. The Witcher is actually a book series that was turned into a game, it's a fantastic universe and I love it. I guess it is kind of generic fantasy, but it's just so well done oh my gosh.
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:54:43 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 06:41:52 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:39:21 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 05:48:48 PMThere doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)I wouldn't use the word "fine" to describe how bad they are handling the story in those game. One single quest line in the Wither 3 has more content to it than at least half of stock(No DLC.) Oblivion or Skyrim.The Witcher 3 best game all year every yearI think it's safe to say that game set a new standard for RPG's and action adventures that are the same setup. What I love is how they handled that cross dressing Elf. Instead of forcing him right away like that transgender character in Dragonage. You instead find out he dresses that way in a quest and his reasoning why was done good. He does it because he feels he can be anybody he wants to be when he wears those clothes.I want to play Witcher but it just seems like another fantasy RPG (I only got into elder scrolls because it was by the same guys as Fallout 3) Same for dragon age. And also the fact I feel obliged to play the first two games in each series to understand what's going on. It wouldn't feel right, jumping in on the third installment.
Quote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 06:41:52 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:39:21 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 05:48:48 PMThere doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)I wouldn't use the word "fine" to describe how bad they are handling the story in those game. One single quest line in the Wither 3 has more content to it than at least half of stock(No DLC.) Oblivion or Skyrim.The Witcher 3 best game all year every yearI think it's safe to say that game set a new standard for RPG's and action adventures that are the same setup. What I love is how they handled that cross dressing Elf. Instead of forcing him right away like that transgender character in Dragonage. You instead find out he dresses that way in a quest and his reasoning why was done good. He does it because he feels he can be anybody he wants to be when he wears those clothes.
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:39:21 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 05:48:48 PMThere doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)I wouldn't use the word "fine" to describe how bad they are handling the story in those game. One single quest line in the Wither 3 has more content to it than at least half of stock(No DLC.) Oblivion or Skyrim.The Witcher 3 best game all year every year
Quote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 05:48:48 PMThere doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)I wouldn't use the word "fine" to describe how bad they are handling the story in those game. One single quest line in the Wither 3 has more content to it than at least half of stock(No DLC.) Oblivion or Skyrim.
There doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)
Quote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 06:53:26 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 06:33:10 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 06:15:23 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 06:00:32 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 05:57:20 PMHaHahaNoFallout 3 story: cliche Fallout New Vegas: Much BetterFallout 4: Meh storyquit being a fanboy, while I do like Bethesda, you can't deny that there stories in Fallout are stupid, and those god awful endings, the lack of choices in Fallout 4, and 0 skills. Also the horrific AI's, buggy mess, and many more, if your ok with this bullshit then by all means take off that Fallout profile pic. Also Obsidian is now filled with the people who worked on the original Fallouts, so why not let then make Fallout.Because a bad story invalidates an entire game, obviously.Also, nice assumption presuming I thought Fallout 3 or 4's stories were good :^)Notice in my comment that i did not just talked about the stories in Bethesda's Fallout. >Lack of choices>Lack of Being Evil/ Always being Good >Lack luster ending (New Vegas, Fallout 1, Fallout 2, Hell even Fallout Tactics had better endings then Fallout 3/4)>Horrendous AI>Shit UI (PC)>Bethesda Bugs>Lack of story >NPCs sometimes repeating the same line (For example, If you say Yes the NPC will say "Wow, didn't see you here" if you say No the same NPC will say "Wow, didn't see you here" doesn't change there dialogue, doesn't change your character, doesn't change you to be evil.)>Lack of tutorial in the Village Creation>R.I.P Dumb Character choice (Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas)>Question, Yes, No, Sarcastic (really?)>Lack of Skills>Casual Perk System>Lack of Character Model>Casual gameYour telling me that your ok with this bullshit. Also Fallout 3s story was stupid, compare it with Fallout 2. Fallout 3s story is shit, and Fallout 4s story is meh.Yep, your pic spells "fanboy"I wouldn't disagree with any of those. I still consider NV to be a superior game in everything but gunplay and map design. I have no idea where you get this ridiculous notion I have blind praise for the stories of either of the Bethesda games. I mean, Fallout 4 wasn't terrible. It wasn't great, but it wasn't awful. It was just predictable and lacking in choices. And the intention to let players play past the end was sort of responsible for the lackluster ending. Same for Skyrim. Even so, has Bethesda ever been renowned for quality stories? Worldbuilding, sure, but not story.I have no qualms with the perk system. It's not worse than the other games' system but it's not better. I have such high praise for Fallout 4 because I consider it to be one of the best games I've played in years. Maybe since Reach came out (Excluding other Fallout games). I rank it a good 9/10 alongside New Vegas, but for different reasons. It's a fun game. Far from perfect, but when compared to other disappointments like Halo 5 or Destiny, it's a goddamn masterpiece.Plus, I rarely say anything about the original games. I have them, but I can rarely play them for more than 15 minutes without just turning it off because I just can't enjoy the old games. Sue me if you want, or bring out the no true scotsman, but I find 2d isometric turn based gameplay to be just awful. I'm sorry you're so buttmad I'm enjoying a game you didn't, but I got into the series with 3 and all three 'current', as it were, Fallout games are some of my favourites in... well, ever.I won't lie, Fallout 4 kinda disappointed me (in terms of story, endings etc.) however I won't lie and say that Bethesda makes great map and great gameplay, however this trend of Bethesda logic (bugs, shit story etc.) has gone too far and I won't be praising there games until they get their shit together, this is probably my last straw with BGS. (For me anyways) QuoteI have no idea where you get this ridiculous notion I have blind praise for the stories of either of the Bethesda gamesQuoteAlso, nice assumption presuming I thought Fallout 3 or 4's stories were good :^) - Bacon
Quote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 06:33:10 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 06:15:23 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 06:00:32 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 05:57:20 PMHaHahaNoFallout 3 story: cliche Fallout New Vegas: Much BetterFallout 4: Meh storyquit being a fanboy, while I do like Bethesda, you can't deny that there stories in Fallout are stupid, and those god awful endings, the lack of choices in Fallout 4, and 0 skills. Also the horrific AI's, buggy mess, and many more, if your ok with this bullshit then by all means take off that Fallout profile pic. Also Obsidian is now filled with the people who worked on the original Fallouts, so why not let then make Fallout.Because a bad story invalidates an entire game, obviously.Also, nice assumption presuming I thought Fallout 3 or 4's stories were good :^)Notice in my comment that i did not just talked about the stories in Bethesda's Fallout. >Lack of choices>Lack of Being Evil/ Always being Good >Lack luster ending (New Vegas, Fallout 1, Fallout 2, Hell even Fallout Tactics had better endings then Fallout 3/4)>Horrendous AI>Shit UI (PC)>Bethesda Bugs>Lack of story >NPCs sometimes repeating the same line (For example, If you say Yes the NPC will say "Wow, didn't see you here" if you say No the same NPC will say "Wow, didn't see you here" doesn't change there dialogue, doesn't change your character, doesn't change you to be evil.)>Lack of tutorial in the Village Creation>R.I.P Dumb Character choice (Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas)>Question, Yes, No, Sarcastic (really?)>Lack of Skills>Casual Perk System>Lack of Character Model>Casual gameYour telling me that your ok with this bullshit. Also Fallout 3s story was stupid, compare it with Fallout 2. Fallout 3s story is shit, and Fallout 4s story is meh.Yep, your pic spells "fanboy"I wouldn't disagree with any of those. I still consider NV to be a superior game in everything but gunplay and map design. I have no idea where you get this ridiculous notion I have blind praise for the stories of either of the Bethesda games. I mean, Fallout 4 wasn't terrible. It wasn't great, but it wasn't awful. It was just predictable and lacking in choices. And the intention to let players play past the end was sort of responsible for the lackluster ending. Same for Skyrim. Even so, has Bethesda ever been renowned for quality stories? Worldbuilding, sure, but not story.I have no qualms with the perk system. It's not worse than the other games' system but it's not better. I have such high praise for Fallout 4 because I consider it to be one of the best games I've played in years. Maybe since Reach came out (Excluding other Fallout games). I rank it a good 9/10 alongside New Vegas, but for different reasons. It's a fun game. Far from perfect, but when compared to other disappointments like Halo 5 or Destiny, it's a goddamn masterpiece.Plus, I rarely say anything about the original games. I have them, but I can rarely play them for more than 15 minutes without just turning it off because I just can't enjoy the old games. Sue me if you want, or bring out the no true scotsman, but I find 2d isometric turn based gameplay to be just awful. I'm sorry you're so buttmad I'm enjoying a game you didn't, but I got into the series with 3 and all three 'current', as it were, Fallout games are some of my favourites in... well, ever.
Quote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 06:15:23 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 06:00:32 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 05:57:20 PMHaHahaNoFallout 3 story: cliche Fallout New Vegas: Much BetterFallout 4: Meh storyquit being a fanboy, while I do like Bethesda, you can't deny that there stories in Fallout are stupid, and those god awful endings, the lack of choices in Fallout 4, and 0 skills. Also the horrific AI's, buggy mess, and many more, if your ok with this bullshit then by all means take off that Fallout profile pic. Also Obsidian is now filled with the people who worked on the original Fallouts, so why not let then make Fallout.Because a bad story invalidates an entire game, obviously.Also, nice assumption presuming I thought Fallout 3 or 4's stories were good :^)Notice in my comment that i did not just talked about the stories in Bethesda's Fallout. >Lack of choices>Lack of Being Evil/ Always being Good >Lack luster ending (New Vegas, Fallout 1, Fallout 2, Hell even Fallout Tactics had better endings then Fallout 3/4)>Horrendous AI>Shit UI (PC)>Bethesda Bugs>Lack of story >NPCs sometimes repeating the same line (For example, If you say Yes the NPC will say "Wow, didn't see you here" if you say No the same NPC will say "Wow, didn't see you here" doesn't change there dialogue, doesn't change your character, doesn't change you to be evil.)>Lack of tutorial in the Village Creation>R.I.P Dumb Character choice (Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas)>Question, Yes, No, Sarcastic (really?)>Lack of Skills>Casual Perk System>Lack of Character Model>Casual gameYour telling me that your ok with this bullshit. Also Fallout 3s story was stupid, compare it with Fallout 2. Fallout 3s story is shit, and Fallout 4s story is meh.Yep, your pic spells "fanboy"
Quote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 06:00:32 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 05:57:20 PMHaHahaNoFallout 3 story: cliche Fallout New Vegas: Much BetterFallout 4: Meh storyquit being a fanboy, while I do like Bethesda, you can't deny that there stories in Fallout are stupid, and those god awful endings, the lack of choices in Fallout 4, and 0 skills. Also the horrific AI's, buggy mess, and many more, if your ok with this bullshit then by all means take off that Fallout profile pic. Also Obsidian is now filled with the people who worked on the original Fallouts, so why not let then make Fallout.Because a bad story invalidates an entire game, obviously.Also, nice assumption presuming I thought Fallout 3 or 4's stories were good :^)
Quote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 05:57:20 PMHaHahaNoFallout 3 story: cliche Fallout New Vegas: Much BetterFallout 4: Meh storyquit being a fanboy, while I do like Bethesda, you can't deny that there stories in Fallout are stupid, and those god awful endings, the lack of choices in Fallout 4, and 0 skills. Also the horrific AI's, buggy mess, and many more, if your ok with this bullshit then by all means take off that Fallout profile pic. Also Obsidian is now filled with the people who worked on the original Fallouts, so why not let then make Fallout.
HaHahaNo
I have no idea where you get this ridiculous notion I have blind praise for the stories of either of the Bethesda games
Also, nice assumption presuming I thought Fallout 3 or 4's stories were good :^)
Quote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:20:33 PMQuote from: Lemon x Naru on November 25, 2015, 07:19:31 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:16:15 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 07:13:11 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:11:50 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:06:38 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:02:25 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:00:04 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:54:43 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 06:41:52 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:39:21 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 05:48:48 PMThere doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)I wouldn't use the word "fine" to describe how bad they are handling the story in those game. One single quest line in the Wither 3 has more content to it than at least half of stock(No DLC.) Oblivion or Skyrim.The Witcher 3 best game all year every yearI think it's safe to say that game set a new standard for RPG's and action adventures that are the same setup. What I love is how they handled that cross dressing Elf. Instead of forcing him right away like that transgender character in Dragonage. You instead find out he dresses that way in a quest and his reasoning why was done good. He does it because he feels he can be anybody he wants to be when he wears those clothes.I want to play Witcher but it just seems like another fantasy RPG (I only got into elder scrolls because it was by the same guys as Fallout 3) Same for dragon age. And also the fact I feel obliged to play the first two games in each series to understand what's going on. It wouldn't feel right, jumping in on the third installment.You don't actually need to play the first two to get the story of the third, they do a fantastic job of telling you the events of the previous games, plus the story of the third isn't directly connected to the first two. The Witcher is actually a book series that was turned into a game, it's a fantastic universe and I love it. I guess it is kind of generic fantasy, but it's just so well done oh my gosh.Honestly, I count most western fantasy as generic fantasy because it all feels like a rip off of Tolkein. Not a bad thing, but it all feels very samey after a while.The only fantasy stuff I'd consider to be not generic (that I know of) is Souls (as much as I dislike the series, I admire how it makes an effort to not be medieval england) and to an extent, ASOIAF. Though the latter is more because there's not really much in the way of magic in it (as opposed to LOTR) and it's a lot grittier than most fantasy.That said, I do intend to play TW3 someday. But when someday is, I have no fucking clue.I believe The Witcher is based off of Polish folklore, it's actually really coolHave you got the chance to read The Witcher Books?Naw, I'd be down for giving them a try at some point though, they seem really interestingNot all of them have an English translation yetYeah, was wondering about thatOh wellThe 3rd book for the English translation comes out in 2016 and the 4th comes out in 2017. Also how important is the first game? I ended up ordering the 2nd game for the 360 and since the first game didn't come out for it I didn't get it.
Quote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:06:38 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:02:25 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:00:04 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:54:43 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 06:41:52 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:39:21 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 05:48:48 PMThere doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)I wouldn't use the word "fine" to describe how bad they are handling the story in those game. One single quest line in the Wither 3 has more content to it than at least half of stock(No DLC.) Oblivion or Skyrim.The Witcher 3 best game all year every yearI think it's safe to say that game set a new standard for RPG's and action adventures that are the same setup. What I love is how they handled that cross dressing Elf. Instead of forcing him right away like that transgender character in Dragonage. You instead find out he dresses that way in a quest and his reasoning why was done good. He does it because he feels he can be anybody he wants to be when he wears those clothes.I want to play Witcher but it just seems like another fantasy RPG (I only got into elder scrolls because it was by the same guys as Fallout 3) Same for dragon age. And also the fact I feel obliged to play the first two games in each series to understand what's going on. It wouldn't feel right, jumping in on the third installment.You don't actually need to play the first two to get the story of the third, they do a fantastic job of telling you the events of the previous games, plus the story of the third isn't directly connected to the first two. The Witcher is actually a book series that was turned into a game, it's a fantastic universe and I love it. I guess it is kind of generic fantasy, but it's just so well done oh my gosh.Honestly, I count most western fantasy as generic fantasy because it all feels like a rip off of Tolkein. Not a bad thing, but it all feels very samey after a while.The only fantasy stuff I'd consider to be not generic (that I know of) is Souls (as much as I dislike the series, I admire how it makes an effort to not be medieval england) and to an extent, ASOIAF. Though the latter is more because there's not really much in the way of magic in it (as opposed to LOTR) and it's a lot grittier than most fantasy.That said, I do intend to play TW3 someday. But when someday is, I have no fucking clue.The Witcher is basically the Polish ASOIAF.Dark, super gritty. Unlike other franchises, such as Dragon Age, which is more... lighthearted (? I can't think of the word).It's also heavily based on and around Polish folklore and myths (obviously).It's a pretty fantastic universe.
Sword of Destiny has an English translationThe Last Wish has an English translationBlood of Elves has an English translationTime of Contempt has an English translationBaptism of Fire has an English translationThe Swallow's Tower doesn't have an English translation. English translation releases next year.The Lady of the Lake doesn't have an English translation. English translation releases in 2017.Season of Storms doesn't have an English translation. No date is set for the English translation.Also, Anderzej Sapkowski doesn't consider the games as canon.
FO4 is falsely advertised as an RPG. It's an FPS adventure game.I swear, we need an Obsidian game using FO4s updated engine or Beth should hire more competent writers and stop casualizing their games to COD-tier. Of course, they won't because they want to appeal to the masses and MONEY IS ALL THAT MATTERS so they'll rape this awesome series.
Quote from: KinderEssen on November 25, 2015, 07:30:20 PMFO4 is falsely advertised as an RPG. It's an FPS adventure game.I swear, we need an Obsidian game using FO4s updated engine or Beth should hire more competent writers and stop casualizing their games to COD-tier. Of course, they won't because they want to appeal to the masses and MONEY IS ALL THAT MATTERS so they'll rape this awesome series.Also blind bethesda fanboys will fall for this bait over and over again.
Quote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 07:35:04 PMQuote from: KinderEssen on November 25, 2015, 07:30:20 PMFO4 is falsely advertised as an RPG. It's an FPS adventure game.I swear, we need an Obsidian game using FO4s updated engine or Beth should hire more competent writers and stop casualizing their games to COD-tier. Of course, they won't because they want to appeal to the masses and MONEY IS ALL THAT MATTERS so they'll rape this awesome series.Also blind bethesda fanboys will fall for this bait over and over again.It's not bait, though, lad. It's the truth.I do enjoy FO4s updated mechanics/visuals, gunplay (about time that they let us bash with the gun, I knew something was missing in NV/FO3) and THE POWER ARMOUR OH GOD THAT IS BEYOND AWESOME JUST CHANGE THE FUSION CORE IDEA A BIT AND YOU GOT A GOOD CONCEPT.But the RPG elements that defined Fallout are basically gone in favour of appeasing the casual COD kid crowd.Also, WHY THE FUCK is there no player model in first person? This is 2015. Jesus christ, modders implemented that in FO3
Quote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 07:35:04 PMQuote from: KinderEssen on November 25, 2015, 07:30:20 PMFO4 is falsely advertised as an RPG. It's an FPS adventure game.I swear, we need an Obsidian game using FO4s updated engine or Beth should hire more competent writers and stop casualizing their games to COD-tier. Of course, they won't because they want to appeal to the masses and MONEY IS ALL THAT MATTERS so they'll rape this awesome series.Also blind bethesda fanboys will fall for this bait over and over again.I doubt we're ever going to get another game in the west again.
Quote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:39:16 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 07:35:04 PMQuote from: KinderEssen on November 25, 2015, 07:30:20 PMFO4 is falsely advertised as an RPG. It's an FPS adventure game.I swear, we need an Obsidian game using FO4s updated engine or Beth should hire more competent writers and stop casualizing their games to COD-tier. Of course, they won't because they want to appeal to the masses and MONEY IS ALL THAT MATTERS so they'll rape this awesome series.Also blind bethesda fanboys will fall for this bait over and over again.I doubt we're ever going to get another game in the west again.I hope to god that's not true. West coast best coast (well, in the Fallout series, anyway).
Quote from: KinderEssen on November 25, 2015, 07:41:08 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:39:16 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 07:35:04 PMQuote from: KinderEssen on November 25, 2015, 07:30:20 PMFO4 is falsely advertised as an RPG. It's an FPS adventure game.I swear, we need an Obsidian game using FO4s updated engine or Beth should hire more competent writers and stop casualizing their games to COD-tier. Of course, they won't because they want to appeal to the masses and MONEY IS ALL THAT MATTERS so they'll rape this awesome series.Also blind bethesda fanboys will fall for this bait over and over again.I doubt we're ever going to get another game in the west again.I hope to god that's not true. West coast best coast (well, in the Fallout series, anyway).Well, with Obsidian's main writer left and how things between Bethesda and Obsidian worked out (Stuff like the bonus, bethesda pretty much not even acknowledging the NV stuff like Riot Gear, the existence of New Vegas and such), it doesn't seem likeky we'll get another Obsidian game, sadly.
Quote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:43:38 PMQuote from: KinderEssen on November 25, 2015, 07:41:08 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:39:16 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 07:35:04 PMQuote from: KinderEssen on November 25, 2015, 07:30:20 PMFO4 is falsely advertised as an RPG. It's an FPS adventure game.I swear, we need an Obsidian game using FO4s updated engine or Beth should hire more competent writers and stop casualizing their games to COD-tier. Of course, they won't because they want to appeal to the masses and MONEY IS ALL THAT MATTERS so they'll rape this awesome series.Also blind bethesda fanboys will fall for this bait over and over again.I doubt we're ever going to get another game in the west again.I hope to god that's not true. West coast best coast (well, in the Fallout series, anyway).Well, with Obsidian's main writer left and how things between Bethesda and Obsidian worked out (Stuff like the bonus, bethesda pretty much not even acknowledging the NV stuff like Riot Gear, the existence of New Vegas and such), it doesn't seem likeky we'll get another Obsidian game, sadly.Another New Vegas with the gameplay of FO4 would be the most perfect thing ever
Quote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:43:38 PMQuote from: KinderEssen on November 25, 2015, 07:41:08 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:39:16 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 07:35:04 PMQuote from: KinderEssen on November 25, 2015, 07:30:20 PMFO4 is falsely advertised as an RPG. It's an FPS adventure game.I swear, we need an Obsidian game using FO4s updated engine or Beth should hire more competent writers and stop casualizing their games to COD-tier. Of course, they won't because they want to appeal to the masses and MONEY IS ALL THAT MATTERS so they'll rape this awesome series.Also blind bethesda fanboys will fall for this bait over and over again.I doubt we're ever going to get another game in the west again.I hope to god that's not true. West coast best coast (well, in the Fallout series, anyway).Well, with Obsidian's main writer left and how things between Bethesda and Obsidian worked out (Stuff like the bonus, bethesda pretty much not even acknowledging the NV stuff like Riot Gear, the existence of New Vegas and such), it doesn't seem likeky we'll get another Obsidian game, sadly.Shame, I love the unique style of the original makers of Fallout. So wacky and zany and awesome and depressing and scary and bleak.The people down in Beth are dickheads and they have been since they finished Morrowind.
Bethesda seems to be really good at improving in some aspects, and then getting worse in others
Angry Joes review on Fallout 4 was pretty spot on (Although I disagree about giving it a 8/10 though)YouTube
Quote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 07:58:48 PMAngry Joes review on Fallout 4 was pretty spot on (Although I disagree about giving it a 8/10 though)YouTubeHe admitted himself that it was because he was biased. Personally I think it deserves a 6.5 or a 7. The gameplay is there, but that's pretty much it I'm afraid.
Quote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:06:38 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 07:02:25 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 25, 2015, 07:00:04 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:54:43 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 25, 2015, 06:41:52 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 25, 2015, 06:39:21 PMQuote from: Gamma Ray on November 25, 2015, 05:48:48 PMThere doing fine with the Elder Scrolls story (Unlike Fallout)I wouldn't use the word "fine" to describe how bad they are handling the story in those game. One single quest line in the Wither 3 has more content to it than at least half of stock(No DLC.) Oblivion or Skyrim.The Witcher 3 best game all year every yearI think it's safe to say that game set a new standard for RPG's and action adventures that are the same setup. What I love is how they handled that cross dressing Elf. Instead of forcing him right away like that transgender character in Dragonage. You instead find out he dresses that way in a quest and his reasoning why was done good. He does it because he feels he can be anybody he wants to be when he wears those clothes.I want to play Witcher but it just seems like another fantasy RPG (I only got into elder scrolls because it was by the same guys as Fallout 3) Same for dragon age. And also the fact I feel obliged to play the first two games in each series to understand what's going on. It wouldn't feel right, jumping in on the third installment.You don't actually need to play the first two to get the story of the third, they do a fantastic job of telling you the events of the previous games, plus the story of the third isn't directly connected to the first two. The Witcher is actually a book series that was turned into a game, it's a fantastic universe and I love it. I guess it is kind of generic fantasy, but it's just so well done oh my gosh.Honestly, I count most western fantasy as generic fantasy because it all feels like a rip off of Tolkein. Not a bad thing, but it all feels very samey after a while.The only fantasy stuff I'd consider to be not generic (that I know of) is Souls (as much as I dislike the series, I admire how it makes an effort to not be medieval england) and to an extent, ASOIAF. Though the latter is more because there's not really much in the way of magic in it (as opposed to LOTR) and it's a lot grittier than most fantasy.That said, I do intend to play TW3 someday. But when someday is, I have no fucking clue.The Souls games are Japanese.
they need to let obisidian make fallouts
Bethesda Should stick with the ES than Fallout
