Quote from: Verbatim on March 27, 2017, 05:12:19 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on March 27, 2017, 05:07:03 PMIt is objectively better. Its endless features and peripherals. Its library of games (total count) is like all console generations combined and then some. It doesn't just play games, you can use this machine for all sort of things, free online services too. You can connect your PC to a tv or a monitor, you can use any controller you want. you have the ability to properly stream games, you can type messages faster to people you are playing with using the keyboard, the mouse is objectively better than a thumbstick.Okay, but I don't understand why any of this makes it objectively better.QuoteHow are mods bad?Not getting into it; my thoughts have been on record for years and I can't be assed to explain why again.Think of it like - a superior product. Like a car or something. A Golf gets you from A to B, but so does a Bugatti or a Mustang.Good luck trying to argue that a Golf is better than a Bugatti tbh.Are mods bad even when developers support them and pay mod makers to make more mods? What about things like DOTA ( a mod of WOW) or CS (a mod of Half-life) ?
Quote from: FatherlyNick on March 27, 2017, 05:07:03 PMIt is objectively better. Its endless features and peripherals. Its library of games (total count) is like all console generations combined and then some. It doesn't just play games, you can use this machine for all sort of things, free online services too. You can connect your PC to a tv or a monitor, you can use any controller you want. you have the ability to properly stream games, you can type messages faster to people you are playing with using the keyboard, the mouse is objectively better than a thumbstick.Okay, but I don't understand why any of this makes it objectively better.QuoteHow are mods bad?Not getting into it; my thoughts have been on record for years and I can't be assed to explain why again.
It is objectively better. Its endless features and peripherals. Its library of games (total count) is like all console generations combined and then some. It doesn't just play games, you can use this machine for all sort of things, free online services too. You can connect your PC to a tv or a monitor, you can use any controller you want. you have the ability to properly stream games, you can type messages faster to people you are playing with using the keyboard, the mouse is objectively better than a thumbstick.
How are mods bad?
Think of it like - a superior product. Like a car or something. A Golf gets you from A to B, but so does a Bugatti or a Mustang.Good luck trying to argue that a Golf is better than a Bugatti tbh.
Quote from: Verbatim on March 27, 2017, 05:40:57 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on March 27, 2017, 05:34:26 PMThink of it like - a superior product. Like a car or something. A Golf gets you from A to B, but so does a Bugatti or a Mustang.Good luck trying to argue that a Golf is better than a Bugatti tbh.Why is a Bugatti better than a Golf? They're both just cars.umCome on
Quote from: FatherlyNick on March 27, 2017, 05:34:26 PMThink of it like - a superior product. Like a car or something. A Golf gets you from A to B, but so does a Bugatti or a Mustang.Good luck trying to argue that a Golf is better than a Bugatti tbh.Why is a Bugatti better than a Golf? They're both just cars.
Quote from: challengerX on March 27, 2017, 05:43:38 PMQuote from: Verbatim on March 27, 2017, 05:40:57 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on March 27, 2017, 05:34:26 PMThink of it like - a superior product. Like a car or something. A Golf gets you from A to B, but so does a Bugatti or a Mustang.Good luck trying to argue that a Golf is better than a Bugatti tbh.Why is a Bugatti better than a Golf? They're both just cars.umCome onDUDE MATERIAL POSSESSIONS LMAO
Quote from: Verbatim on March 27, 2017, 05:50:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 27, 2017, 05:43:38 PMQuote from: Verbatim on March 27, 2017, 05:40:57 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on March 27, 2017, 05:34:26 PMThink of it like - a superior product. Like a car or something. A Golf gets you from A to B, but so does a Bugatti or a Mustang.Good luck trying to argue that a Golf is better than a Bugatti tbh.Why is a Bugatti better than a Golf? They're both just cars.umCome onDUDE MATERIAL POSSESSIONS LMAOSuperior and inferior things do not exist in your world?
Quote from: Luciana on March 27, 2017, 05:12:27 PMThey do, they're just not to your liking you silly slut. If we're talking about exclusives that is.No one is gonna give a shit about uh... idk, Battlefield on either.but that's my point--you're gonna prefer the platform that actually has the games you want on itif you want to play console games, then bada-bing bada-boom, console gaming is probably better for youmy problem with fatherlynick is that he's trying to argue that PC gaming is "objectively superior," when what he means to say is, "i personally prefer PC gaming"--there's nothing objective about itif more PC gamers learned how to say that, the world would be a better place
They do, they're just not to your liking you silly slut. If we're talking about exclusives that is.No one is gonna give a shit about uh... idk, Battlefield on either.
The physical store and human interaction will always trump online bullshit.
I'm materialistic because I recognize that a Bugatti is a better car than a Golf?It's an insult to the people who worked on and made the buggati. You're telling them all the time and effort they put into making an excellent car meant nothing, because it's basically the same as a Golf because they're both cars.It's as if you give two students a C even though one of them deserves an A because they both handed in an essay.Argue about you simply not enjoying PC gaming all you like. That's fine, and I respect your opinion. But don't make stupid statements like this.
That being said, I find exclusives in of itself a massive fucking meme, and most exclusives, bar one or two, are shit anyway.
Damn you're really reaching hard.Somebody who can't write for shit doesn't deserve an A. Just like a Bugatti is objectively better than a Golf.
Quote from: challengerX on March 27, 2017, 07:04:32 PMDamn you're really reaching hard.Somebody who can't write for shit doesn't deserve an A. Just like a Bugatti is objectively better than a Golf.
Quote from: Verbatim on March 27, 2017, 07:07:01 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 27, 2017, 07:04:32 PMDamn you're really reaching hard.Somebody who can't write for shit doesn't deserve an A. Just like a Bugatti is objectively better than a Golf.According to subjective standards that you made up.So if I'm faster than stronger than you, I'm actually not because something?
Quote from: challengerX on March 27, 2017, 07:04:32 PMDamn you're really reaching hard.Somebody who can't write for shit doesn't deserve an A. Just like a Bugatti is objectively better than a Golf.According to subjective standards that you made up.
Under the context of a weakness test, if I were weaker than you, then that would make me better than you.We don't think about these things because we don't have weakness contests.
Physically I'd be objectively better than you.
Quote from: Verbatim on March 27, 2017, 08:05:03 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 27, 2017, 08:01:25 PMPhysically I'd be objectively better than you.Yes, under the arbitrary subjective standard of "physically."But even then, not really, because "physically" is kinda vague. I assume you mean "in terms of physical strength."I'd be healthier, stronger, whatever. I'd be better.
Quote from: challengerX on March 27, 2017, 08:01:25 PMPhysically I'd be objectively better than you.Yes, under the arbitrary subjective standard of "physically."But even then, not really, because "physically" is kinda vague. I assume you mean "in terms of physical strength."
A film director is irrelevant. I'm saying objectively I'm better. A faster car is better than a slower car. Not to mention the better technology and the craftsmanship that goes into it.
Quote from: Verbatim on March 27, 2017, 08:32:50 PMThe only reason you say a faster car is "objectively better" than a slower car is because, 99.99% of the time, the average person is going to find more practical use out of the faster car.But that's not 100%. Though rare, there are still situations where the slower car would be objectively better.This means that it's not objective. It doesn't matter, even if it's the smallest most abstract counterexample--if it exists, then there's no objectivity and the choice between the faster car and slower car is a matter of personal preference.Most people prefer the faster one, but that doesn't make it objectively superior.This isn't difficult.A shitty hatchback is better than a supercar how?
The only reason you say a faster car is "objectively better" than a slower car is because, 99.99% of the time, the average person is going to find more practical use out of the faster car.But that's not 100%. Though rare, there are still situations where the slower car would be objectively better.This means that it's not objective. It doesn't matter, even if it's the smallest most abstract counterexample--if it exists, then there's no objectivity and the choice between the faster car and slower car is a matter of personal preference.Most people prefer the faster one, but that doesn't make it objectively superior.This isn't difficult.
Quote from: Luciana on March 27, 2017, 06:07:19 PMThat being said, I find exclusives in of itself a massive fucking meme, and most exclusives, bar one or two, are shit anyway.NonsenseYou're basically throwing every 1st to 6th generation console into the bin with that statement. Especially Nintendo.
However there are certain things the PC does better
objectively.