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The only people that are  gonna be eating shit are the developers when they make a boring game nobody wants to play.

Videogames have to be fun because the developers want money for their hard work. Nobody has this raging boner for artistic integrity like you do, they want to make fun games for people to enjoy and they want money for it. Everybody wins.

then what they should've done is made a good remake

why do they have to package in the original, that's just dumb

Ok we're in violent agreement lmao I never said otherwise I was just asking why the developer's feelings should be more important that what people want

that's what i said, you completely just missed the boat on what i was saying

that said, developer's feelings do matter quite a lot

I wasn't paying attention to the conversation I'm just saying the developers "feelings" don't matter if they make the game worse

if only you could account for what makes a game worse that easily

i'm sure plenty of people like the new music and don't give a shit about the loading times or whatever

"plenty of people like longer loading times"

Hahahaha this guy is great

in what world does "don't give a shit" mean "like"

that said, yeah, i'm sure some people DO like longer loading times

maybe i do

what of it

And some people like eating shit, that doesn't make it a good thing.

doesn't make it a bad thing either

Eating shit is objectively bad.

it's actually not

Really? Why?

someone puts a gun to your best friend's head and tells you if you don't eat shit, he dies

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The only people that are  gonna be eating shit are the developers when they make a boring game nobody wants to play.

Videogames have to be fun because the developers want money for their hard work. Nobody has this raging boner for artistic integrity like you do, they want to make fun games for people to enjoy and they want money for it. Everybody wins.

then what they should've done is made a good remake

why do they have to package in the original, that's just dumb

Ok we're in violent agreement lmao I never said otherwise I was just asking why the developer's feelings should be more important that what people want

that's what i said, you completely just missed the boat on what i was saying

that said, developer's feelings do matter quite a lot

I wasn't paying attention to the conversation I'm just saying the developers "feelings" don't matter if they make the game worse

if only you could account for what makes a game worse that easily

i'm sure plenty of people like the new music and don't give a shit about the loading times or whatever

"plenty of people like longer loading times"

Hahahaha this guy is great

in what world does "don't give a shit" mean "like"

that said, yeah, i'm sure some people DO like longer loading times

maybe i do

what of it

And some people like eating shit, that doesn't make it a good thing.

doesn't make it a bad thing either

Eating shit is objectively bad.

it's actually not

Really? Why?

someone puts a gun to your best friend's head and tells you if you don't eat shit, he dies

LOL

How the hell is that a good thing? You're being forced at gunpoint to do something bad. It doesn't magically turn into a good thing and eating shit in that situation is even worse than people who have a shit eating fetish and at least enjoy themselves. That's not a good thing. A good thing is something you do of your own free will and enjoy which doesn't harm you. Torture isn't a good thing.

Not to mention there'd be no point because you're both gonna get shot anyways. Is that seriously the best you can come up with? That was the worst fucking example I've ever seen in my life lmao holy fucking shit did Deci hack your account or something?

why is it not good to save your friend, i don't get it

"objectively bad" means that there's no situation where it would ever be good

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The only people that are  gonna be eating shit are the developers when they make a boring game nobody wants to play.

Videogames have to be fun because the developers want money for their hard work. Nobody has this raging boner for artistic integrity like you do, they want to make fun games for people to enjoy and they want money for it. Everybody wins.

then what they should've done is made a good remake

why do they have to package in the original, that's just dumb

Ok we're in violent agreement lmao I never said otherwise I was just asking why the developer's feelings should be more important that what people want

that's what i said, you completely just missed the boat on what i was saying

that said, developer's feelings do matter quite a lot

I wasn't paying attention to the conversation I'm just saying the developers "feelings" don't matter if they make the game worse

if only you could account for what makes a game worse that easily

i'm sure plenty of people like the new music and don't give a shit about the loading times or whatever

"plenty of people like longer loading times"

Hahahaha this guy is great

in what world does "don't give a shit" mean "like"

that said, yeah, i'm sure some people DO like longer loading times

maybe i do

what of it

And some people like eating shit, that doesn't make it a good thing.

doesn't make it a bad thing either

Eating shit is objectively bad.

it's actually not

Really? Why?

someone puts a gun to your best friend's head and tells you if you don't eat shit, he dies

LOL

How the hell is that a good thing? You're being forced at gunpoint to do something bad. It doesn't magically turn into a good thing and eating shit in that situation is even worse than people who have a shit eating fetish and at least enjoy themselves. That's not a good thing. A good thing is something you do of your own free will and enjoy which doesn't harm you. Torture isn't a good thing.

Not to mention there'd be no point because you're both gonna get shot anyways. Is that seriously the best you can come up with? That was the worst fucking example I've ever seen in my life lmao holy fucking shit did Deci hack your account or something?

why is it not good to save your friend, i don't get it

Because you're not going to save your friend.

this isn't your hypothetical

this is also you saying that you shouldn't even try, which is pretty funny

Adding the modifier of saving your friend doesn't make it a good thing.

why

what's an acceptable modifier for you

Try what? If you're ever in that situation you're fucked. Either try to take the gun or tell the dude to go fuck himself and die like a man.

so you wouldn't try to save your friend

okay, that's your prerogative

kinda makes you a bad person, but you know, to each his own

Because it's a modifier. Which means the base act (eating shit) is a negative.

so why is it objectively bad

don't use any modifiers like "it's gross and unhealthy" because those are modifiers

you're so fucking dumb dude

It's hilarious how you're always trying to bring me down to your level. I already explained why your hypothetical is a dumb and unrealistic scenario.

but you don't have to because i already know that it is

but that's not the point

Those are descriptors, not modifiers.

they're modifiers

Eating shit is unhealthy and serves no purpose.

wow stop using modifiers or i'm gonna declare victory

you're just proving that the base act of eating shit is neutral by reaching for these modifiers

Eating shit is a bad thing. Swimming through an ocean of diarrhea is a bad thing. Using heroin is a bad thing.

Doing it to save someone doesn't make it a good thing. That's why somebody has to force you at gun point to do it lmao you just keep proving me right.

and the fact that it's unhealthy, repulsive, and there's no immediate practical purpose for it doesn't make it a bad thing either

it just means you have a small brain

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Quote from: challengerX on July 15, 2017, 07:02:16 AM

Eating shit is a bad thing. Swimming through an ocean of diarrhea is a bad thing. Using heroin is a bad thing.

Doing it to save someone doesn't make it a good thing. That's why somebody has to force you at gun point to do it lmao you just keep proving me right.

and the fact that it's unhealthy, repulsive, and there's no immediate practical purpose for it doesn't make it a bad thing either

it just means you have a small brain

It does though. That's literally what "bad" means hahahaha. You always back yourself into a corner like this.

that's not what bad means at all

by this logic, i could say that saving your friend is the definition of good, therefore anything that would allow you to save your friend is also good

objectively bad means i literally can't come up with any extreme examples that would prove that it's actually good in that one instance, and i already have

some animals survive by eating shit, so there, i proved you wrong for the 7024th time

can we talk about crash bandicoot please

For what good reason is a precision platformer, especially now with the change to Crash's collision, running at 30 FPS

muh resolution

i wish people would stop giving a fuck about that.

Game doesn't look very difficult imo

its not, its just frustrating that its less functional than it was 20 years ago

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Game doesn't look very difficult imo

its not, its just frustrating that its less functional than it was 20 years ago

Iv'e heard that the biggest problem are the hitboxes, what else is there?

responsiveness and sluggishness are my main problems

I'm talking about people

that's a modifier

the base act is "eating shit"

not "people eating shit"

you are modifying the goalposts

pretty much nothing in the universe is objectively good or bad, and disagreeing shows extreme philosophical immaturity

those who only care to think about what's practically true tend to be some really ignorant motherfuckers, and you are the prime example of an ignorant motherfucker

things are only ever good or bad when you add a reference point or modifier

it is impossible for anything to be intrinsically good or bad

you've demonstrated this yourself by being unable to prove why eating shit is always a bad thing, because it's very easy to come up with situations where it would actually be good—you argue these are "modifiers," but when trying to prove the opposite point, you simply can't avoid using modifiers either