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It shouldn't be assumed everything is broken until proven otherwise.
If I sold you a pound of gold wouldn't you like to make sure it was actually gold before I took your money and ran off?

Okay, if you're using that analogy, that doesn't make sense. They still sold you a game. Just not the one you hoped it to be. For your analogy to make sense, they would have to give you something that is not a game, like a tuba or something.

You still get the gold. It's just in the shape of a dick, not a bar like you wanted. Some people like the dick. Just because you don't like the dick means you should be angry at others for liking it, you fucking homophobe.
Let's say there's a trusted car company. You're looking for a new car to buy and you immediently go to this company because they are trusted and have good reviews. But before you sign the paperwork and pay you ask if you can testdrive your car to make sure it works as expected. The company denies and asks for your money.

Who is winning here? For all you know that car could have a lot of engine troubles but you're paying for it without test driving it.

But fuck it, right? Cause it's a trusted company.
if you car has s faulty engine you could die

If your videogames isn't as fun as you hoped you just return it
And you missed the entire point

I think you read on tumblr that pre ordering is bad and now you're butthurt about it and refusing to use logic


 
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fuck you
I shamefully pre-ordered Bloodborne, which was my first (and probably last) pre-order in like a year and a half.
you better stream that.


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and refusing to use logic

turn your brain on and then read my post about Pokemon


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It shouldn't be assumed everything is broken until proven otherwise.
If I sold you a pound of gold wouldn't you like to make sure it was actually gold before I took your money and ran off?

Okay, if you're using that analogy, that doesn't make sense. They still sold you a game. Just not the one you hoped it to be. For your analogy to make sense, they would have to give you something that is not a game, like a tuba or something.

You still get the gold. It's just in the shape of a dick, not a bar like you wanted. Some people like the dick. Just because you don't like the dick means you should be angry at others for liking it, you fucking homophobe.
Let's say there's a trusted car company. You're looking for a new car to buy and you immediently go to this company because they are trusted and have good reviews. But before you sign the paperwork and pay you ask if you can testdrive your car to make sure it works as expected. The company denies and asks for your money.

Who is winning here? For all you know that car could have a lot of engine troubles but you're paying for it without test driving it.

But fuck it, right? Cause it's a trusted company.

Game companies don't make you preorder though. That's your own decision, and some games even have a public beta and demo. There's even these things on the internet called reviews. They tell you about a game before it is released. Did you know that? Mind-blowing, right?

And as for your car analogy, then choose a different company to buy from if you don't trust them. Some people don't have issues with that company you don't like though, and you know what you do about that?

You deal with it.


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It shouldn't be assumed everything is broken until proven otherwise.
If I sold you a pound of gold wouldn't you like to make sure it was actually gold before I took your money and ran off?

Okay, if you're using that analogy, that doesn't make sense. They still sold you a game. Just not the one you hoped it to be. For your analogy to make sense, they would have to give you something that is not a game, like a tuba or something.

You still get the gold. It's just in the shape of a dick, not a bar like you wanted. Some people like the dick. Just because you don't like the dick means you should be angry at others for liking it, you fucking homophobe.
Let's say there's a trusted car company. You're looking for a new car to buy and you immediently go to this company because they are trusted and have good reviews. But before you sign the paperwork and pay you ask if you can testdrive your car to make sure it works as expected. The company denies and asks for your money.

Who is winning here? For all you know that car could have a lot of engine troubles but you're paying for it without test driving it.

But fuck it, right? Cause it's a trusted company.

Game companies don't make you preorder though. That's your own decision, and some games even have a public beta and demo. There's even these things on the internet called reviews. They tell you about a game before it is released. Did you know that? Mind-blowing, right?

And as for your car analogy, then choose a different company to buy from if you don't trust them. Some people don't have issues with that company you don't like though, and you know what you do about that?

You deal with it.
A demo does not reflect the final game tho.

Game companies are starting to extend embargoes past game releases so you don't see reviews until after the game comes out.


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and refusing to use logic

turn your brain on and then read my post about Pokemon
Just because Nintendo devs haven't screwed customers over by releasing a bad game does not mean it can't happen. It just means they are good devs and care about their customers but they are a minority of the gaming industry. Just because a small part is alright does not mean everything else is fine.


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It shouldn't be assumed everything is broken until proven otherwise.
If I sold you a pound of gold wouldn't you like to make sure it was actually gold before I took your money and ran off?

Okay, if you're using that analogy, that doesn't make sense. They still sold you a game. Just not the one you hoped it to be. For your analogy to make sense, they would have to give you something that is not a game, like a tuba or something.

You still get the gold. It's just in the shape of a dick, not a bar like you wanted. Some people like the dick. Just because you don't like the dick means you should be angry at others for liking it, you fucking homophobe.
Let's say there's a trusted car company. You're looking for a new car to buy and you immediently go to this company because they are trusted and have good reviews. But before you sign the paperwork and pay you ask if you can testdrive your car to make sure it works as expected. The company denies and asks for your money.

Who is winning here? For all you know that car could have a lot of engine troubles but you're paying for it without test driving it.

But fuck it, right? Cause it's a trusted company.

Game companies don't make you preorder though. That's your own decision, and some games even have a public beta and demo. There's even these things on the internet called reviews. They tell you about a game before it is released. Did you know that? Mind-blowing, right?

And as for your car analogy, then choose a different company to buy from if you don't trust them. Some people don't have issues with that company you don't like though, and you know what you do about that?

You deal with it.
A demo does not reflect the final game tho.

Game companies are starting to extend embargoes past game releases so you don't see reviews until after the game comes out.

Maybe in like 2005. All the demos that I've played before a game release seem to heavily reflect what the game will be like. Keep in mind, I'm not talking about E3 stage demos.

Only a FEW game companies are starting to do that. Christ, you take the actions of a few big name developers and all of a sudden every game company is like that? Let me guess, you also think all muslims are terrorists.


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It shouldn't be assumed everything is broken until proven otherwise.
If I sold you a pound of gold wouldn't you like to make sure it was actually gold before I took your money and ran off?

Okay, if you're using that analogy, that doesn't make sense. They still sold you a game. Just not the one you hoped it to be. For your analogy to make sense, they would have to give you something that is not a game, like a tuba or something.

You still get the gold. It's just in the shape of a dick, not a bar like you wanted. Some people like the dick. Just because you don't like the dick means you should be angry at others for liking it, you fucking homophobe.
Let's say there's a trusted car company. You're looking for a new car to buy and you immediently go to this company because they are trusted and have good reviews. But before you sign the paperwork and pay you ask if you can testdrive your car to make sure it works as expected. The company denies and asks for your money.

Who is winning here? For all you know that car could have a lot of engine troubles but you're paying for it without test driving it.

But fuck it, right? Cause it's a trusted company.

Game companies don't make you preorder though. That's your own decision, and some games even have a public beta and demo. There's even these things on the internet called reviews. They tell you about a game before it is released. Did you know that? Mind-blowing, right?

And as for your car analogy, then choose a different company to buy from if you don't trust them. Some people don't have issues with that company you don't like though, and you know what you do about that?

You deal with it.
A demo does not reflect the final game tho.

Game companies are starting to extend embargoes past game releases so you don't see reviews until after the game comes out.

Maybe in like 2005. All the demos that I've played before a game release seem to heavily reflect what the game will be like. Keep in mind, I'm not talking about E3 stage demos.

Only a FEW game companies are starting to do that. Christ, you take the actions of a few big name developers and all of a sudden every game company is like that? Let me guess, you also think all muslims are terrorists.
How the fuck can you be okay the big companies starting to do this?

Oh wait, deal with it, right?

Okay, I'll bend over for them too.

As for demos yes they can be entirely misleading (Destiny, Halo Wars)



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and refusing to use logic

turn your brain on and then read my post about Pokemon
Just because Nintendo devs haven't screwed customers over by releasing a bad game does not mean it can't happen. It just means they are good devs and care about their customers but they are a minority of the gaming industry. Just because a small part is alright does not mean everything else is fine.
that's my entire point, pre ordering can be fine. If they make a bad Pokemon game I'll be like well that sucks, sell it, and stop playing Pokemon but in 18 years I haven't played one bad  main series pokmeon  game. I'm pre ordering blood borne too. I have hundreds of hours in dark souls 1 and 2. Bloodborne looks like more of the same and they're allowing pretty extensive media coverage


Now I'll give an example of a bad pre order. I pre ordered destiny after e3
That was just stupid. I knew next to nothing about the game. What's worse is I never canceled my pre order after we were repeatedly showed the same area over and over and over. Then the game released unfinished. There's a difference between trust and blind faith. I had blind faith in bungie, I trust game freak and From.



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It shouldn't be assumed everything is broken until proven otherwise.
If I sold you a pound of gold wouldn't you like to make sure it was actually gold before I took your money and ran off?

Okay, if you're using that analogy, that doesn't make sense. They still sold you a game. Just not the one you hoped it to be. For your analogy to make sense, they would have to give you something that is not a game, like a tuba or something.

You still get the gold. It's just in the shape of a dick, not a bar like you wanted. Some people like the dick. Just because you don't like the dick means you should be angry at others for liking it, you fucking homophobe.
Let's say there's a trusted car company. You're looking for a new car to buy and you immediently go to this company because they are trusted and have good reviews. But before you sign the paperwork and pay you ask if you can testdrive your car to make sure it works as expected. The company denies and asks for your money.

Who is winning here? For all you know that car could have a lot of engine troubles but you're paying for it without test driving it.

But fuck it, right? Cause it's a trusted company.

Game companies don't make you preorder though. That's your own decision, and some games even have a public beta and demo. There's even these things on the internet called reviews. They tell you about a game before it is released. Did you know that? Mind-blowing, right?

And as for your car analogy, then choose a different company to buy from if you don't trust them. Some people don't have issues with that company you don't like though, and you know what you do about that?

You deal with it.
A demo does not reflect the final game tho.

Game companies are starting to extend embargoes past game releases so you don't see reviews until after the game comes out.

Maybe in like 2005. All the demos that I've played before a game release seem to heavily reflect what the game will be like. Keep in mind, I'm not talking about E3 stage demos.

Only a FEW game companies are starting to do that. Christ, you take the actions of a few big name developers and all of a sudden every game company is like that? Let me guess, you also think all muslims are terrorists.
How the fuck can you be okay the big companies starting to do this?

Oh wait, deal with it, right?

Okay, I'll bend over for them too.

Because if a game isn't 100% up to par upon release, is it disappointing? Yes. Will it be fixed? Yes. If I enjoyed the game, despite it's condition upon release, does it really matter? No.

I agree, devs should not ship an incomplete game. Preordering however, has nothing to do with that. The game could have 1,000 preorders or 100,000 preorders, if the devs and publishers want to ship an incomplete game for a quick cash grab, that's what they're gonna do.

For example, Battlefield 4. A game originally  meant to releasing in the first quarter of 2014. Instead, to gain as much profit as possible off of next gen hype, EA pushed forward the release date by several months. The game shipped as a broken mess for most people. Does that have anything to do with preorders? Maybe a tiny bit, but nothing to be to influential.

Preorder what games you want. If you think that this whole "Don't preorder" thing in 2015 is gonna do anything, then you're delusional. If you want to have an impact on poor publisher and dev choices, don't buy the game. Preorders, as has been said multiple times in this thread, mean nothing anymore to both consumers and developers. For me, it's just so I can not waste two hours of my day on release day downloading a game when I could be playing it.


 
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fuck you
omg shut up lol


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omg shut up lol

No one is asking you to come into the thread.


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The healthy man does not torture others - generally it is the tortured who turn into torturers.
omg shut up lol

No one is asking you to come into the thread.
Nobody is asking you to go all out and get annoyed either.


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omg shut up lol

No one is asking you to come into the thread.
Nobody is asking you to go all out and get annoyed either.



Fair point.


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The healthy man does not torture others - generally it is the tortured who turn into torturers.
omg shut up lol

No one is asking you to come into the thread.
Nobody is asking you to go all out and get annoyed either.



Fair point.
I didn't mean that to be offensive but you know...


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I shamefully pre-ordered Bloodborne, which was my first (and probably last) pre-order in like a year and a half.
you better stream that.
She sucks at Souls games, it would only be painful to watch


 
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fuck you
I shamefully pre-ordered Bloodborne, which was my first (and probably last) pre-order in like a year and a half.
you better stream that.
She sucks at Souls games, it would only be painful to watch
But now I want to watch even more lol


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Did he say glass of juice or gas the Jews?
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👨🏽:honey, he's gonna say his first words

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It did happen in their past games, let's hope that they've fixed the issue.
It happened in BF3 but they didn't fix it in BF4 until some time latter. Chances are the same thing will happen with this game.
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The real question is, why does it bother you so much that I'm getting the game?
It's the whole blind pre-ordering shit. The only thing it does is tell developers people are buying their games out of hype instead of buying the game for the game. Chances are if people stopped pre-ordering games wouldn't have as much cut content, ending up being shit and no bait and switch like Aliens CM. If people waited to see what the game is like the developers would actually have more content to the game and put more into it. 
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To you. Not to me.
Keep telling yourself that. I highly doubt you're going to finish a game that's barley playable or has shit controls just for the story.   


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Did he say glass of juice or gas the Jews?
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👨🏽:honey, he's gonna say his first words

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👶🏽:here come dat boi 🐸!

👨🏽:o shit waddup 😂💯

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and some games even have a public beta and demo.
The demo level for Halo 2 ended up not being in the game. In that demo the Earth does look like it's being invaded. In the final game you hardly get that feeling. Halo Wars ended up being different than the demo. The demo for Aliens CM is a hell of a lot better than the final game. Hell the demo makes the game look like a demo. So no. Just because there's a demo for a game doesn't mean the game is going to be what is being shown or played. It could be like Aliens CM where it's a bait and switch


 
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I shamefully pre-ordered Bloodborne, which was my first (and probably last) pre-order in like a year and a half.
you better stream that.
She sucks at Souls games, it would only be painful to watch
But now I want to watch even more lol
I'm not bad.

I beat his ass in Dark Souls 2 on our current playthrough. The score is like 10-3


 
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fuck you
I shamefully pre-ordered Bloodborne, which was my first (and probably last) pre-order in like a year and a half.
you better stream that.
She sucks at Souls games, it would only be painful to watch
But now I want to watch even more lol
I'm not bad.

I beat his ass in Dark Souls 2 on our current playthrough. The score is like 10-3
All my friends left me for PS4, I have no more Dark Souls partners.
Spoiler


 
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It just sounds like you're butt hurt over a few bad games you were hoping to be good or didn't turn out the way you wanted.

Holy shit so much this.


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and some games even have a public beta and demo.
The demo level for Halo 2 ended up not being in the game. In that demo the Earth does look like it's being invaded. In the final game you hardly get that feeling. Halo Wars ended up being different than the demo. The demo for Aliens CM is a hell of a lot better than the final game. Hell the demo makes the game look like a demo. So no. Just because there's a demo for a game doesn't mean the game is going to be what is being shown or played. It could be like Aliens CM where it's a bait and switch

I'm not talking E3 stage demos.

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To you. Not to me.
Keep telling yourself that. I highly doubt you're going to finish a game that's barley playable or has shit controls just for the story. 

I've done it before. Keep telling yourself that anyone who disagrees with you must be wrong.
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I've never played a bad Pokemon game.

Haven't you played Emerald, though?


 
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This threads still about not Pre-ordering right?

...what else would it be about? It still looks like we're talking about pre-ordering.


 
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This threads still about not Pre-ordering right?

...what else would it be about? It still looks like we're talking about pre-ordering.
joke.

youre a tad bit late bud


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I shamefully pre-ordered Bloodborne, which was my first (and probably last) pre-order in like a year and a half.
you better stream that.
She sucks at Souls games, it would only be painful to watch
But now I want to watch even more lol
I'm not bad.

I beat his ass in Dark Souls 2 on our current playthrough. The score is like 10-3
Implying I wouldn't win if I wasn't on my dex build


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As for demos yes they can be entirely misleading (Destiny, Halo Wars)

Okay.. what? I'm not talking about stage demos.

Halo Wars's playable demo was very reflective of what the actual game was like, in fact it's the first two missions. The stage demo was also very similar, just some changes in UI and base visuals.

Destiny had two betas and a demo. Yes, the stage demo was a bit a fib, but everything they showed in it I could do in the beta and final game. The beta played very similarly to the final game, and the  playable demo that was released with it's launch was a restricted version of the final game.

So, unless you're referring to the E3 stage demos, I have no idea what you're talking about. And even then, those demos were pretty close to what the game ended up being.


 
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This threads still about not Pre-ordering right?

...what else would it be about? It still looks like we're talking about pre-ordering.
joke.

youre a tad bit late bud

I don't see how that could be taken as a joke, but alright.

It's only been a few hours since you posted it, not sure how I'm "late".