Nintendo's atttitude is rather irritating TBH

Deleted · January 28, 2017, 08:00:27 PM

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INB4: >Gametheory. Yeah I know giving the pope undertale was retaded and FNAF a shit. Whatever this isnt about him but about Nintendo themselves.

The typical Nintendo rhetoric that Reggie is regurgitating shows to me at least, that they still haven't learned from the Wii-U's failure, nor do they understand that the Wii's sales were a fluke and were not reflective of it's lifespan. They still don't see that the ones that bout the Wii are GONE from the console market, never to return. They will keep going at this rate making horribly underpowered consoles based on gimmicks that nobody can ir will develop for and it wont matter if they want to make new consoles or not, they wont be able to afford it. Before anyone even thinks about throwing that 'Over 80 Third Party developers' statistic at me, you should remember that the same promises were made at the start of the Wii U's life cycle. Not to mention the now steady stream of devs outright refusing to develop for the Switch like Respawn and Gearbox. I especially hate how Reggie (and nintendo's defencers) constantly write off better hardware as something unnecessary and claim it's only for graphics. This is wrong on so man levels it's not even funny. Processing power is mode than just graphics. It allows you to to develop bigger, better and more complex games, simple as that. We have come a long way from the small corridors that made up Metroid Prime to save on processing power to games like Battlefield or GTA which can put out massive areas but also manage the tiniest details on said map from the positions of bullets for 64 players at once and all of the destruction going on at once. But lets also go back to the topic of graphics, YES GRAPHICS ARE IMPORTANT, and not just for making the game look pretty. Stable framerates are CRUCIAL to fast paced or competitive games like Devil May Cry, Street Fighter, Counter Strike, Halo or even Smash Bros. require their hardware to run them smoothly for a good game play experience. You wouldn't want say a map like Norfair in Smash Bros to chugg to slideshow performance as if it was Blight town in Dark Souls, especial not at a tournament where even a split second of that kind of issue could ruin the out come of a match. Mods take processing power, and how embarrassing it will be for Ninty to be the only console at this point without mod support, just look at how bad Sony got chewed out for it. It takes a high processing power to accommodate for things like VR. And you know what? Why not have games look prettier too? Good graphics can only make a good experience in a game even better. Just look at Metroid Prime, it was an absolute brilliant masterpiece of a game that only managed to garner even more praise for how it was one of, if not THE BEST looking game of it's time.Not everyone will aim to make their games look hyper realistic, and not everyone should, but give the developers something to work with rather than forcing them to make downgraded ports of gimped last gen games in order to put something on your system.

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Turkey · January 28, 2017, 08:16:21 PM

Typing up some comments as I watch:

-Nintendo doesn't do anything for gaming these days; they don't innovate in any meaningful way, and have coasted on a few favorite franchises for over a decade
-3D, motion controls, asymmetrical controls (pad + TV), augmented reality, and touchscreen controls haven't been normalized or made mainstream; they're reviled by many gamers as cheap gimmicks
-Nintendo makes a safe space in online gaming? Yeah, by making it damn near impossible to figure out how to connect, especially for kids. And the PS4 and Xbox both have parental controls.

Overall, Nintendo is a greedy, tone-deaf company that only manages to avoid getting the shit EA does by delivering a few polished entries in their top franchises for each console.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · January 28, 2017, 11:45:56 PM

I'll get a Switch, but I also bought the Wii U. That in itself has the same potential issue, greater than anything hardware related: no gaems.

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · January 29, 2017, 12:04:53 AM

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🍁 Aria 🔮 · January 29, 2017, 12:07:07 AM

Quote from: El Pancho on January 29, 2017, 12:04:53 AM

Quote from: Aria on January 28, 2017, 11:45:56 PM
I'll get a Switch, but I also bought the Wii U. That in itself has the same potential issue, greater than anything hardware related: no gaems.
I'll get the switch as well but this time I'll wait at the end of its lifespan tbh

I'll decide when I'll get it around E3. By that time a few of the big titles will be out and there will be more definitively dated games on the horizon.

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · January 29, 2017, 12:11:11 AM

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🍁 Aria 🔮 · January 29, 2017, 12:12:22 AM

Quote from: El Pancho on January 29, 2017, 12:11:11 AM

Also their new rewards program is shit SHIEEEET

>pay for online, and get access to a NES game for ONE MONTH

Why did they think this was a good idea?

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · January 29, 2017, 12:15:55 AM

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🍁 Aria 🔮 · January 29, 2017, 12:17:36 AM

Quote from: El Pancho on January 29, 2017, 12:15:55 AM

Quote from: Aria on January 29, 2017, 12:12:22 AM
Quote from: El Pancho on January 29, 2017, 12:11:11 AM
Also their new rewards program is shit SHIEEEET
>pay for online, and get access to a NES game for ONE MONTH

Why did they think this was a good idea?
Now when you buy games and aquire gold coins you can use those coins to get GAMES 20% OFF ISNT IT GRAND?! Jesus, the rewards program before wasn't that great either but you had the ability to aquire free games, hell I got DKTF, WindWakerHD, OG Metroid & Metroid Prime for free because of it

I got a 3DS 18-game case and NES Remix 1 through Nintendo Rewards. It was much better than today's trash.

Deleted · January 29, 2017, 01:08:50 AM

Quote from: Aria on January 29, 2017, 12:12:22 AM

Quote from: El Pancho on January 29, 2017, 12:11:11 AM
Also their new rewards program is shit SHIEEEET
>pay for online, and get access to a NES game for ONE MONTH

Why did they think this was a good idea?

Nintendo's entire virtual console has been a complete shitshow. I mean for fuck's sake, Metroid Fusion literaly exists on 3DS but they refused to sell it becuase of that shitty Ambasador 3DS promotion that they literly arent even making money off of.

Big Boss · January 29, 2017, 04:00:00 AM

I'll let Mr Stirling do the talking

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FatherlyNick - fuck putin · January 29, 2017, 07:33:12 AM

It's sad too. I bet the Vita is doing better then the Switch. I think its much better that the Wii-U, but lets see how it does.

🂿 · February 01, 2017, 10:54:42 PM

I just want to get an NES Classic. Brand new, $60.

Ian · February 03, 2017, 10:11:41 AM

Wait, people actually fall for the 80 developers meme? That was never going to happen and is a steaming load of hot shit even if developers were lining up to make games for the Switch. We all know Nintendo has too much damn pride to let third party be a driving force on their console; they still think that they're good enough to carry their own console themselves. The only reason the Wii got as much shovel-ware as it did is because of its fluke sales making it more popular than was expected and Nintendo gave third parties a free pass to rake in some more dough.

TB · February 03, 2017, 10:53:53 AM

These hot takes are pretty trash tbh.

big sponge · February 03, 2017, 10:57:18 AM

Quote from: Ian on February 03, 2017, 10:11:41 AM

Wait, people actually fall for the 80 developers meme? That was never going to happen and is a steaming load of hot shit even if developers were lining up to make games for the Switch. We all know Nintendo has too much damn pride to let third party be a driving force on their console; they still think that they're good enough to carry their own console themselves. The only reason the Wii got as much shovel-ware as it did is because of its fluke sales making it more popular than was expected and Nintendo gave third parties a free pass to rake in some more dough.

it also had the lowest attachment rate of its gen so shovelware was really the only thing that could turn a profit on it for third parties

Spartan · February 03, 2017, 11:09:22 AM

I'll forgive them if they go through with this https://mynintendonews.com/2017/02/02/nintendo-president-says-hes-contemplating-a-nintendo-3ds-successor/

Mattie G Indahouse · February 04, 2017, 07:23:17 AM

Why is Nintendo making their consoles so shitty? Before they tried to compete with their competitors by having a large library of games and the systems were on the same level hardware wise. Now their consoles are just a circle jerk of first party games which are decades old and for hardware, their consoles are so under powered that most 3rd party games are not going to be compatible.

-The Gamecube used discs which were too small for most non-Nintendo games to fit on which resulted in hardly any 3rd party games.
-The Wii was extremely under powered compared to the 360 and PS3 which limited 3rd party games and you can't play DVDs on it.
-The Wii U has hardly any 3rd party games, the online is a joke and it can't even play DVDs.
-Now for the Switch due to the cartridge drive it's not going to be able to play Bluray/DVDs. Chances are it's going to have shit for 3rd part support as well.