"Halo Reach and Halo 4 are not Halo games like Halo 3, 2 and CE."

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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Halo Reach and 4 closer to Halo 2 and 3 than what 2 and 3 are to Halo CE? Halo Reach and 4 share more things in common and play closer to Halo 2 and 3 than what those to games do with CE. Halo 2 and 3 might as well be different games since they play hardly anything alike. Gameplay wise the one thing they have in common is the arena thing. 


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"It's different so it's not Halo" - Retards from the fanbase

I'm not saying Reach's or 4's MP is good though.


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CE and ODST are the only canon Halos.
Fact.


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CE and ODST are the only canon Halos.
Fact.
Can't argue with that


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I believe the biggest difference between Reach/4 and 2/3 is the fact that not everyone starts out with the same loadout.
It makes it feel less like an arena shooter and more of a twitch shooter.


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You couldn't spawn with abilities to help you win in the Halo trilogy.  Aside from covenant vehicles in CE, you couldn't shoot a vehicle with one bullet from any gun and kill it when the driver had full health.  Jet pack broke map control, armor lock was a get outta jail free card.  Sprint lead to stretched maps, cat mouse gameplay, more double melee, etc.  Invis ability lead to camping on outskirts of map with sniper/dmr to pick people off.  No power ups on map.  Halo 4 allowed you to spawn with a one hit kill weapon and anti-vehicle weapons/grenades, lol perks, kill cams, allowed you to call in power weapons to your feet, etc.
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Reach was unique, neither 4 or 2 can hold a candle to it. 3 is probably closest to CE in terms of how it plays, which I dislike in comparison to 2 and Reach


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Reach was unique, neither 4 or 2 can hold a candle to it. 3 is probably closest to CE in terms of how it plays, which I dislike in comparison to 2 and Reach
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I believe the biggest difference between Reach/4 and 2/3 is the fact that not everyone starts out with the same loadout.
It makes it feel less like an arena shooter and more of a twitch shooter.
yeah. default reach and h4 were class based shooters (reach was more of a hybrid shooter, but still very different from the core arena style of the previous games.)


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Reach was unique, neither 4 or 2 can hold a candle to it. 3 is probably closest to CE in terms of how it plays, which I dislike in comparison to 2 and Reach
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Reach was unique, neither 4 or 2 can hold a candle to it. 3 is probably closest to CE in terms of how it plays, which I dislike in comparison to 2 and Reach
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Wow, your opinion is totally new to me and I really value your contribution, I guess i'll just go and kill myself now
Now the Halo fanbase will become marginally better because it has one less Reach-liking retard.


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Reach was unique, neither 4 or 2 can hold a candle to it. 3 is probably closest to CE in terms of how it plays, which I dislike in comparison to 2 and Reach
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Wow, your opinion is totally new to me and I really value your contribution, I guess i'll just go and kill myself now
Now the Halo fanbase will become marginally better because it has one less Reach-liking retard.
Lol, thinking CE is the best Halo is just silly, at least every other Halo has SOMETHING interesting happening


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Reach was unique, neither 4 or 2 can hold a candle to it. 3 is probably closest to CE in terms of how it plays, which I dislike in comparison to 2 and Reach
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Wow, your opinion is totally new to me and I really value your contribution, I guess i'll just go and kill myself now
Now the Halo fanbase will become marginally better because it has one less Reach-liking retard.
Lol, thinking CE is the best Halo is just silly, at least every other Halo has SOMETHING interesting happening
for its time, ce was incredible. of course it hasnt aged all that well compared to the newer halo games that had time and experience as an advantage for campaign design.

and you know, as repetitive as ce may be, its still a better campaign than any of the other AAA fps series have churned out since 2000.


 
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Halos 1-3 are like the original Star Wars movies... aka the best ones.

ODST is the Phantom Menace, Reach is Attack of the Clones, and Halo 4 is Revenge of the Sith.


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Halos 1-3 are like the original Star Wars movies... aka the best ones.

ODST is the Phantom Menace, Reach is Attack of the Clones, and Halo 4 is Revenge of the Sith.
ODST is more like the original Star Wars: The Clone Wars series than any of the prequel movies. its supplementary material to the canon that happens to be just as good in its own way as the original product... dont even begin to compare odst to reach and h4


 
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Halos 1-3 are like the original Star Wars movies... aka the best ones.

ODST is the Phantom Menace, Reach is Attack of the Clones, and Halo 4 is Revenge of the Sith.
ODST is more like the original Star Wars: The Clone Wars series than any of the prequel movies. its supplementary material to the canon that happens to be just as good in its own way as the original product... dont even begin to compare odst to reach and h4
Except ODST doesn't deserve any of the praise it gets apart from the soundtrack.


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Halos 1-3 are like the original Star Wars movies... aka the best ones.

ODST is the Phantom Menace, Reach is Attack of the Clones, and Halo 4 is Revenge of the Sith.
ODST is more like the original Star Wars: The Clone Wars series than any of the prequel movies. its supplementary material to the canon that happens to be just as good in its own way as the original product... dont even begin to compare odst to reach and h4
Except ODST doesn't deserve any of the praise it gets apart from the soundtrack.
People really need to discern between objectivity and subjectivity ITT.


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Halos 1-3 are like the original Star Wars movies... aka the best ones.

ODST is the Phantom Menace, Reach is Attack of the Clones, and Halo 4 is Revenge of the Sith.
ODST is more like the original Star Wars: The Clone Wars series than any of the prequel movies. its supplementary material to the canon that happens to be just as good in its own way as the original product... dont even begin to compare odst to reach and h4
Except ODST doesn't deserve any of the praise it gets apart from the soundtrack.
the odst campaign was fantastic. it wasnt a $60 game, but it was very very good for what it was.


 
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Goodness gracious, great balls of lightning!
Halos 1-3 are like the original Star Wars movies... aka the best ones.

ODST is the Phantom Menace, Reach is Attack of the Clones, and Halo 4 is Revenge of the Sith.
ODST is more like the original Star Wars: The Clone Wars series than any of the prequel movies. its supplementary material to the canon that happens to be just as good in its own way as the original product... dont even begin to compare odst to reach and h4
Except ODST doesn't deserve any of the praise it gets apart from the soundtrack.
the odst campaign was fantastic. it wasnt a $60 game, but it was very very good for what it was.
You're right, it wasn't a $60 game.

It was a $60 advertisement for the Reach Beta.


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Reach was unique, neither 4 or 2 can hold a candle to it. 3 is probably closest to CE in terms of how it plays, which I dislike in comparison to 2 and Reach
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Wow, your opinion is totally new to me and I really value your contribution, I guess i'll just go and kill myself now
Now the Halo fanbase will become marginally better because it has one less Reach-liking retard.
Lol, thinking CE is the best Halo is just silly, at least every other Halo has SOMETHING interesting happening
>thinks Reach is one of the best Halo games
Your opinion is literally invalid, mate.

And to say CE has nothing happening is just flat out retarded.


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Halos 1-3 are like the original Star Wars movies... aka the best ones.

ODST is the Phantom Menace, Reach is Attack of the Clones, and Halo 4 is Revenge of the Sith.
ODST is more like the original Star Wars: The Clone Wars series than any of the prequel movies. its supplementary material to the canon that happens to be just as good in its own way as the original product... dont even begin to compare odst to reach and h4
Except ODST doesn't deserve any of the praise it gets apart from the soundtrack.
the odst campaign was fantastic. it wasnt a $60 game, but it was very very good for what it was.
You're right, it wasn't a $60 game.

It was a $60 advertisement for the Reach Beta.
It was a £40 game with a brilliant campaign and great co-op mode.
It's one of the best for a reason. Significantly better than Halo 3 too.


 
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Halos 1-3 are like the original Star Wars movies... aka the best ones.

ODST is the Phantom Menace, Reach is Attack of the Clones, and Halo 4 is Revenge of the Sith.
ODST is more like the original Star Wars: The Clone Wars series than any of the prequel movies. its supplementary material to the canon that happens to be just as good in its own way as the original product... dont even begin to compare odst to reach and h4
Except ODST doesn't deserve any of the praise it gets apart from the soundtrack.
the odst campaign was fantastic. it wasnt a $60 game, but it was very very good for what it was.
You're right, it wasn't a $60 game.

It was a $60 advertisement for the Reach Beta.
It was a £40 game with a brilliant campaign and great co-op mode.
It's one of the best for a reason. Significantly better than Halo 3 too.
A campaign that can be easily beaten in 4-5 hours on the laughingly easy Legendary difficulty mode. My few friends and I completed it in about that time while trying to deal with the horrendous lag.

Firefight mode was fun for a week but got stale and boring fast because its the same skulls and same enemies every round. The only enemies that were different were vehicles if you played on a vehicle supported map.


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A campaign that can be easily beaten in 4-5 hours on the laughingly easy Legendary difficulty mode. My few friends and I completed it in about that time while trying to deal with the horrendous lag.
Still longer than the shit that has been shovelled out for the past god knows how many years now.
And it's still a quality campaign regardless of the length.
There's a nice bit of side content too.

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Firefight mode was fun for a week but got stale and boring fast because its the same skulls and same enemies every round. The only enemies that were different were vehicles if you played on a vehicle supported map.
Hmm, so just like an actual multiplayer then.
Same thing over and over.


 
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And it's still a quality campaign regardless of the length.
There's a nice bit of side content too.
What quality?
You're in this city looking for your squad and then once you find them you have to suddenly protect this Pink Engineer that is important for some reason.

And what side content? The only side content there was is the Audio Logs and that's it. There's no skulls to find, there's no other collectibles to unlock, and not that many easter eggs to find.


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Hmm, so just like an actual multiplayer then.
Same thing over and over.
I'll get more enjoyment playing any multiplayer than ODST's bland Firefight mode.


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Reach was unique, neither 4 or 2 can hold a candle to it. 3 is probably closest to CE in terms of how it plays, which I dislike in comparison to 2 and Reach
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Wow, your opinion is totally new to me and I really value your contribution, I guess i'll just go and kill myself now
Now the Halo fanbase will become marginally better because it has one less Reach-liking retard.
Lol, thinking CE is the best Halo is just silly, at least every other Halo has SOMETHING interesting happening
for its time, ce was incredible. of course it hasnt aged all that well compared to the newer halo games that had time and experience as an advantage for campaign design.

and you know, as repetitive as ce may be, its still a better campaign than any of the other AAA fps series have churned out since 2000.
For the time, yes. The main thing is it's still very much playable, but the difference between being a truly legendary game and a great game is not only being playable but still being amazing in a unique way forever after it's time has gone. I actually played an old Space Invaders arcade cabinet, in an actual arcade recently and I was surprised by just how excellent it was, for a game 35 years old now it is still thrilling to play properly like that-it's a legendary game and now I understand why, just as the original Mario is, as is Pong, because they are still brilliant today


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What quality?
You're in this city looking for your squad and then once you find them you have to suddenly protect this Pink Engineer that is important for some reason.
Oh I don't know. Maybe the good, likeable characters or the fun open levels.
And you know, if you paid attention to the game, you'd know why you have to escort the Engineer. It's a pretty big plot point in the game.
Not paying attention to the story and then criticising it isn't a valid way to debate a game and claim it's bad because of something that's your own fault, and it honestly just makes you look stupid and ignorant.

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And what side content? The only side content there was is the Audio Logs and that's it. There's no skulls to find, there's no other collectibles to unlock, and not that many easter eggs to find.
I said nice bit of side content. I never said anything about the quantity.
And Sadie's story is actually very good.


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I'll get more enjoyment playing any multiplayer than ODST's bland Firefight mode.
I'll get more enjoyment out of ODST's firefight than I would any bland multiplayer.


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Reach was unique, neither 4 or 2 can hold a candle to it. 3 is probably closest to CE in terms of how it plays, which I dislike in comparison to 2 and Reach
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Wow, your opinion is totally new to me and I really value your contribution, I guess i'll just go and kill myself now
Now the Halo fanbase will become marginally better because it has one less Reach-liking retard.
Lol, thinking CE is the best Halo is just silly, at least every other Halo has SOMETHING interesting happening
>thinks Reach is one of the best Halo games
Your opinion is literally invalid, mate.

And to say CE has nothing happening is just flat out retarded.
It's a typical alien shoot'em'up whose only stand out points are simply mechanics and ideas that were new at the time, but are commonplace now, so now it's just a typical alien shoot'em'up

Bungie knew that, all they had to do was shift units and make the base, they already knew where they would be going (343/MC dialogue-Chief being Ur-Didact descended, etc...), it's objectively inferior to every other Halo game.


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I'll get more enjoyment playing any multiplayer than ODST's bland Firefight mode.
Why is it that you have such shite taste in games?


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I like the way it's going. It's actually becoming fast paced now, the originals just felt so slow and boring.


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It's a typical alien shoot'em'up whose only stand out points are simply mechanics and ideas that were new at the time, but are commonplace now, so now it's just a typical alien shoot'em'up
We know the Halo franchise is an alien shoot'em up. Thanks Captain Obvious.

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Chief being Ur-Didact descended
Nigga what're you smoking?

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it's objectively inferior to every other Halo game.
Reach is objectively the worst Halo game to date.