Spoiler Halo 5 opening cinematic

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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
All Spartan-IIs are sociopaths.

I wouldn't go that far. It isn't that they lack empathy and remorse or the ability to form emotional bonds, it's that they've been taught not to.
That's generally how sociopaths become sociopaths. It's usually a result of developmental deficits during childhood.


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Fuck.

That made me cringe so hard. I would be embarrassed to show that to anyone who is over the age of 5 and isn't autistic.
Who even are you?

The guy who fucks your mom to sleep every night.
Cause of how small your penis is right?

No. Cause she passes out from the pain.


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All Spartan-IIs are sociopaths.

I wouldn't go that far. It isn't that they lack empathy and remorse or the ability to form emotional bonds, it's that they've been taught not to.
That's generally how sociopaths become sociopaths. It's usually a result of developmental deficits during childhood.

That isn't the point. Spartans most definitely can form bonds and regret their actions in regards to others...but they (usually) don't, at least in regards to non-Spartans. Sociopaths cannot do the same; that's what makes them sociopaths to begin with.


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Fuck.

That made me cringe so hard. I would be embarrassed to show that to anyone who is over the age of 5 and isn't autistic.
Who even are you?

The guy who fucks your mom to sleep every night.
Cause of how small your penis is right?

No. Cause she passes out from the pain.
Uhuh, run along now


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
All Spartan-IIs are sociopaths.

I wouldn't go that far. It isn't that they lack empathy and remorse or the ability to form emotional bonds, it's that they've been taught not to.
That's generally how sociopaths become sociopaths. It's usually a result of developmental deficits during childhood.

That isn't the point. Spartans most definitely can form bonds and regret their actions in regards to others...but they (usually) don't, at least in regards to non-Spartans. Sociopaths cannot do the same; that's what makes them sociopaths to begin with.
The bonds between Spartans are more akin the comrades than friendships, necessarily. Chief doesn't exactly mourn Sam very long, for example.

That could just be another case of the dissonance between the books and games in the Bungie years, but whatever. So really, your point is that sociopathic tendencies is not necessarily sociopathy.


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A flower which blooms on the battlefield
He's mourning Cortana pretty hard


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
He's mourning Cortana pretty hard
So his only lasting attachments are Halsey and the AI based off of a young Halsey.

So he's a sociopath with an Oedipus Complex?


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The bonds between Spartans are more akin the comrades than friendships, necessarily. Chief doesn't exactly mourn Sam very long, for example.

To be fair he didn't exactly have much time to mourn anyway, what with all the missions and cryo and all that. Also the narrative skipped ahead shortly after IIRC.

In Halo Wars you can sometimes hear a Spartan yell 'for Samuel!', so I suppose they do mourn him in their own way.


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Fuck.

That made me cringe so hard. I would be embarrassed to show that to anyone who is over the age of 5 and isn't autistic.
Who even are you?

The guy who fucks your mom to sleep every night.
Cause of how small your penis is right?

No. Cause she passes out from the pain.
Uhuh, run along now

Make me you fuckin ass bitch.


 
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He's mourning Cortana pretty hard
So his only lasting attachments are Halsey and the AI based off of a young Halsey.

So he's a sociopath with an Oedipus Complex?
He see's her as a mother


Spoiler
HE LIKES HIS MOTHER
ITS JM


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A flower which blooms on the battlefield
In Halo Wars you can sometimes hear a Spartan yell 'for Samuel!', so I suppose they do mourn him in their own way.
References have story relevance now?


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
To be fair he didn't exactly have much time to mourn anyway, what with all the missions and cryo and all that. Also the narrative skipped ahead shortly after IIRC.
Hence my addendum.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
He's mourning Cortana pretty hard
So his only lasting attachments are Halsey and the AI based off of a young Halsey.

So he's a sociopath with an Oedipus Complex?
He see's her as a mother


Spoiler
HE LIKES HIS MOTHER
ITS JM
inb4 John starts going by the nickname Jim after going AWOL


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In Halo Wars you can sometimes hear a Spartan yell 'for Samuel!', so I suppose they do mourn him in their own way.
References have story relevance now?

...Yes?


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A flower which blooms on the battlefield
In Halo Wars you can sometimes hear a Spartan yell 'for Samuel!', so I suppose they do mourn him in their own way.
References have story relevance now?

...Yes?
they don't

it's just a references


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the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
In Halo Wars you can sometimes hear a Spartan yell 'for Samuel!', so I suppose they do mourn him in their own way.
References have story relevance now?

...Yes?
they don't

it's just a references

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Yes, it's a reference to Sam. Every Spartan was angry that he died. What of it?


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A flower which blooms on the battlefield
In Halo Wars you can sometimes hear a Spartan yell 'for Samuel!', so I suppose they do mourn him in their own way.
References have story relevance now?

...Yes?
they don't

it's just a references

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Yes, it's a reference to Sam. Every Spartan was angry that he died. What of it?
that Spartans are emotionally dead


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that Spartans are emotionally dead

The Kilo-Five trilogy, Halo 4's ending, and what we've seen of Halo 5 disagree profoundly and deconstruct the concept. Spartans are seen as machines who fight and win and do nothing else, and certainly don't let little things like 'feelings' get in their way. That's what they were meant to be, but it's made evident that they're not. Kurt and Jorge, in particular, are standout examples of Spartans who are quite clearly human underneath their suits. All of them saw Halsey as a mother figure, and learned to respect Mendez as a teacher. John's meeting with Parisa wasn't just an encounter between a walking suit of armor and a forgotten and irrelevant woman from his past. Maria even got married and had a family.

They're definitely psychologically fucked up, but they're not sociopathic.


 
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This is pretty awesome but if you really wanted to make us go nuts.

Make that scene a semi scripted, semi controlled part of the game where you are the one shooting and throwing. Hell, I wouldn't mind a couple (well done) quick time events like in Tomb Raider.


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that Spartans are emotionally dead

The Kilo-Five trilogy,

fanfiction is not canon


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
In Halo Wars you can sometimes hear a Spartan yell 'for Samuel!', so I suppose they do mourn him in their own way.
References have story relevance now?

...Yes?
they don't

it's just a references

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Yes, it's a reference to Sam. Every Spartan was angry that he died. What of it?
that Spartans are emotionally dead
"John wiped away the condensation that formed over her helmeted head. She was neither dead or alive. She was in some twilight place in between.
   That uncertainty was worse than seeing her broken and burned body on Gamma Station. It felt like an open wound in John's chest."-First Strike p.186



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the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
that Spartans are emotionally dead

The Kilo-Five trilogy,

fanfiction is not canon

I know Halo 3 is the true end to the series, but for some reason a lot of people think stuff happened afterward and I like to humor them.


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In Halo Wars you can sometimes hear a Spartan yell 'for Samuel!', so I suppose they do mourn him in their own way.
References have story relevance now?


...Yes?
they don't

it's just a references

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Yes, it's a reference to Sam. Every Spartan was angry that he died. What of it?
that Spartans are emotionally dead
"John wiped away the condensation that formed over her helmeted head. She was neither dead or alive. She was in some twilight place in between.
   That uncertainty was worse than seeing her broken and burned body on Gamma Station. It felt like an open wound in John's chest."-First Strike p.186

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that Spartans are emotionally dead

The Kilo-Five trilogy,

fanfiction is not canon

I know Halo 3 is the true end to the series, but for some reason a lot of people think stuff happened afterward and I like to humor them.
What an awful ending that would be.
Thankfully 343 saved us from that.