Your opinion on new Serious rules?

 
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Hmm...
For reference to what was changed: http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=11257.msg477684#msg477684

So anyway, now that it's been several days since the trial run rule change in the Serious board, what do you think of it? Like it better? Hate it?

Leave your comments below, please. :)


 
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After seeing the changes in activity and such, I'm in the camp that prefers reverting to the former policy of what is allowed - while making changes to emphasize that Serious is not for "serious discussion of any topic".


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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
There was a thread I made that got moved out of Serious and I'm still bothered about that because I feel like I can't bump it back up since it's in the Flood now, so I ended up just asking for a lock. Psy said it's one of those things that's kind of grey area I guess.


 
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There was a thread I made that got moved out of Serious and I'm still bothered about that because I feel like I can't bump it back up since it's in the Flood now, so I ended up just asking for a lock. Psy said it's one of those things that's kind of grey area I guess.

The video thread?


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
There was a thread I made that got moved out of Serious and I'm still bothered about that because I feel like I can't bump it back up since it's in the Flood now, so I ended up just asking for a lock. Psy said it's one of those things that's kind of grey area I guess.

The video thread?
Yeah, there's no way I'm bumping that back up in the Flood without Serious' rules to protect it.


 
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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
I don't agree with it.

If anyone discusses anything in the Flood it's like a needle in a haystack getting either a meaningful discussion or a decent answer.

And seeing as serious is restricted to limited topics, any threads not deemed "serious quality" get dumped there and fall prey to pointless arguements or an attempt at being funny.


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I neither fear, nor despise.
I'm not liking the new changes, they are very limiting to what can go there.
I'd like to see Serious go back the way it was before. Obvious bait threads get kicked out.
No shitposting, none of that.


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I'm not liking the new changes, they are very limiting to what can go there.
I'd like to see Serious go back the way it was before. Obvious bait threads get kicked out.
No shitposting, none of that.
I'm inclined to agree. The amount of new posts is pretty shallow.


 
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So what exactly are the changes to the Serious board you're going to be making some time tomorrow that Mr P had mentioned?

- Same types of threads allowed as before the trial (In terms of topics)
- Serious forum would still not allow "discussion of any topic seriously"
- Bait threads are no longer allowed

But IcyWind and Mr P think it's dangerous and open minded (they see open-mindedness as a bad thing) to allow people to discuss certain political stances with the sole reason being that they get offended at it. If I were to make a thread advocating against gay marriage, it would get locked because the those two staff members do not know how to ethically and fairly run the Serious board. They think the whole Serious board revolves around themselves and their feelings.

No - it's that whenever you choose to discuss topics like gay marriage, you do so in a way that is nothing more than a bait thread. If you'd like, I can pull up your last attempt at it and show you exactly why this is true.


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What you ought to do is say that threads must be conducted in an academic fashion. You have a topic, a stance, and your arguments, if a thread can't manage that then it wouldn't belong in Serious.

A good chunk of your threads still wouldn't meet that criteria, Dustin.


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But you still blatantly told me that it was 'illegal' to discuss a certain topic because of its offensiveness it has on you.

 ::)

Where was this alleged statement, Dustin?


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But you still blatantly told me that it was 'illegal' to discuss a certain topic because of its offensiveness it has on you.

 ::)

Where was this alleged statement, Dustin?
I think it was the thread Meta made about how liberals are close minded.

You and Mr P said that I'm not allowed to make a thread on homosexual genocide.

 ::)

1.) It wouldn't have gone in Serious under the trial rules
2.) If you can honestly discuss it seriously, fine. Talk about how we should murder all the gays. That doesn't mean you simply go find some backwater internet source that's from 2002 and try to present it as concrete evidence. Shit like that gets it locked and/or moved.



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But you still blatantly told me that it was 'illegal' to discuss a certain topic because of its offensiveness it has on you.

 ::)

Where was this alleged statement, Dustin?
I think it was the thread Meta made about how liberals are close minded.

You and Mr P said that I'm not allowed to make a thread on homosexual genocide.

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1.) It wouldn't have gone in Serious under the trial rules
2.) If you can honestly discuss it seriously, fine. Talk about how we should murder all the gays. That doesn't mean you simply go find some backwater internet source that's from 2002 and try to present it as concrete evidence. Shit like that gets it locked and/or moved.
Why can't I use God and Science as a source? What's wrong with Christian conservative citations?

Bias.

If you want to use that shit, sure. Back it up with something that isn't as biased to support your viewpoint then. You are welcome to skip that and simply use "God and Science" if you wish, but none of the staff is going to step in when people ridicule you.



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Bias.

If you want to use that shit, sure. Back it up with something that isn't as biased to support your viewpoint then.
So if I made a thread arguing in favor of homeopathy and I used biased sources it would get locked? Isn't it a bias as to when to consider something biased?

Not at all.


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Bias.

If you want to use that shit, sure. Back it up with something that isn't as biased to support your viewpoint then.
So if I made a thread arguing in favor of homeopathy and I used biased sources it would get locked? Isn't it a bias as to when to consider something biased?

Not at all.
But it would get locked if I wrote it with the intent to get a rise out of other people?

More likely moved.


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Bias.

If you want to use that shit, sure. Back it up with something that isn't as biased to support your viewpoint then.
So if I made a thread arguing in favor of homeopathy and I used biased sources it would get locked? Isn't it a bias as to when to consider something biased?

Not at all.
But it would get locked if I wrote it with the intent to get a rise out of other people?

More likely moved.
I don't like that.

Take it up with a mod then. The Serious policy will continue to be tweaked and should hopefully be up later today (The 27th)


 
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It doesn't effect me, I rarely go there.
But it's a good change, hopefully more focused rules there will clean up any problems.