You know what annoys me is how society has right and wrong ingraned consciously

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The problem is that their own version of right and wrong is subjective. A lot of the time it's not even a matter of morality, it's more of a matter that you do or say something that society just isn't comfortable. It could be that you don't follow a certain form of etiquette, you could go against one of society's "traditions" or norms. The thing is that the universe unequivocally doesn't give a single fuck. People act like whatever they think is a law of fucking nature. I think people have a really hard with this concept because they're so busy masturbating over how they're right. There's this mentality whenever someone hears about something they never heard about. They laugh and get all defensive and act like it's so fucking weird. I guess that's to save face over the fact that if they tried to understand the world around them instead of just laughing they may not understand.

I want to live in a world where understanding is just a fluid every changing stream, and whatever enters your mind is being constantly reevaluated. I think that people really like their mind to run on patterns though. Traditional thinking and  love of customs is really just a sign of extreme mental weakness. I see it everywhere I go. Here is my response to this kind of thinking

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so first I'm being compared to a guy I never met named deci, and no cheat. when will the boogeyman go away?


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
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Well, it doesn't matter what people think is right or wrong, they'll still have to follow the law. Or, y'know, they could do what they think is right, and get in trouble for it.


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Well, it doesn't matter what people think is right or wrong, they'll still have to follow the law. Or, y'know, they could do what they think is right, and get in trouble for it.



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Well, it doesn't matter what people think is right or wrong, they'll still have to follow the law. Or, y'know, they could do what they think is right, and get in trouble for it.



Destroying religious objects? I don't get it.


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Well, it doesn't matter what people think is right or wrong, they'll still have to follow the law. Or, y'know, they could do what they think is right, and get in trouble for it.



Destroying religious objects? I don't get it.
I dunno, I wasn't thinking about how the objects are religious. I just like how they're a couple of heads getting smashed. It is a nice bonus that they're the heads of religious architecture. I think that saying "they still have to follow the law" is a bit troubling because the law is only there to hold you back. That's not a sentiment, it's just a fact.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Right and wrong isn't subjective; morality is based on factual propositions. People can clearly be wrong about right and wrong, and you should tell them as such.


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Right and wrong isn't subjective; morality is based on factual propositions. People can clearly be wrong about right and wrong, and you should tell them as such.
>morality is based on factual positions
because someone can totally say who is right and wrong. I BET NO ONE EVER TRIED THAT BEFORE.


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>having stronger morality than others makes you a murderer
STOP THE PRESSES
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so first I'm being compared to a guy I never met named deci, and no cheat. when will the boogeyman go away?

Cheat is the guy who made this place.


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so first I'm being compared to a guy I never met named deci, and no cheat. when will the boogeyman go away?

Cheat is the guy who made this place.

Can we just permaban him already?


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ITT - people who refuse to realize that morality is whatever society says it is.

Right and wrong are only what people agree to.


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My stupidity is self evident.
Right and wrong isn't subjective; morality is based on factual propositions. People can clearly be wrong about right and wrong, and you should tell them as such.
Allow me to derail this thread.

In saying that moral statements can be right or wrong are you merely saying they are propositional statements with a true or false value or are you saying that can be derived non-subjectively?

I would argue that while moral statements can be true or false, they are ultimately based on assignment of value which, in my understanding, is pretty much always subjective. There for the truth value would only be with respect to how well they reflect that individuals or communities values.

I'm sure I'm mistaken. If you're saying moral statements can be derived from non-moral aspects of reality, I'm really unsure as to how that works, an explanation would be nice.