Yet another shooting in the US.

Not Comms Officer · May 17, 2015, 07:24:25 PM

Le linky xdddd

But I swear to fucking god, this shit happens like literally every day. 9 people dead, and 16 injured this time around, and nobody will ever learn.

DAS B00T x2 · May 17, 2015, 07:30:26 PM

>gang shootout

Well would you look at that...

Batch · May 17, 2015, 07:30:48 PM

> Guns

A Cheese Potato · May 17, 2015, 07:31:18 PM

ban bikes

CK97 · May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM

I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler

It wouldn't have.

Not Comms Officer · May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM

Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM

I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.

Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.

Kiwicake · May 17, 2015, 07:33:18 PM

ban america

Ásgeirr · May 17, 2015, 07:34:03 PM

pew pew cawadoody

Kiwicake · May 17, 2015, 07:34:08 PM

But seriously, jeez louise that's awful

DAS B00T x2 · May 17, 2015, 07:35:50 PM

Quote from: Fruit on May 17, 2015, 07:34:08 PM

But seriously, jeez louise that's awful

Nah, only gang members died. It's actually quite okay.

CK97 · May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM

Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.

It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.

Kiwicake · May 17, 2015, 07:38:34 PM

Quote from: DAS "كافر" B00T on May 17, 2015, 07:35:50 PM

Quote from: Fruit on May 17, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
But seriously, jeez louise that's awful
Nah, only gang members died. It's actually quite okay.

I just mean the situation in general, it's good that innocent people weren't killed though

Sandtrap · May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PM

Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.

Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.

Best thing Comms. There is no outside the box solution. Just let things run their course is the only way to go. Sit back and see what happens. Everybody's played their hand and now it's time to see how everything unfolds.

Not Comms Officer · May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PM

Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.

"It's to prevent tyranny"

Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.

Erives · May 17, 2015, 07:45:42 PM

Of all the fucking places it had to be Waco, Texas.

Jocephalopod · May 17, 2015, 07:46:04 PM

Who won?

DAS B00T x2 · May 17, 2015, 07:47:27 PM

Quote from: Jocephalopod on May 17, 2015, 07:46:04 PM

Who won?

Piers Morgan and the Brady Campaign, apparently.

i am karjala takaisin · May 17, 2015, 07:47:42 PM

greece is poor

Not Comms Officer · May 17, 2015, 07:48:01 PM

Quote from: Erives on May 17, 2015, 07:45:42 PM

Of all the fucking places it had to be Waco, Texas.

Yeah, I found that funny. I was considering making the title a reference to that Waco Siege, but it's too late now.

Not Comms Officer · May 17, 2015, 07:48:46 PM

Quote from: —ber on May 17, 2015, 07:47:42 PM

greece is poor

>tfw bottom 60% of Americans have less than 1% of the wealth

>tfw muh middle class doesn't even exist

Jocephalopod · May 17, 2015, 07:49:10 PM

Quote from: DAS "كافر" B00T on May 17, 2015, 07:47:27 PM

Quote from: Jocephalopod on May 17, 2015, 07:46:04 PM
Who won?
Piers Morgan and the Brady Campaign, apparently.

Ew

we need to set up stadiums for gang wars.

i am karjala takaisin · May 17, 2015, 07:49:46 PM

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:48:46 PM

Quote from: —ber on May 17, 2015, 07:47:42 PM
greece is poor
>tfw bottom 60% of Americans have less than 1% of the wealth

>tfw muh middle class doesn't even exist

greece is poor

Sandtrap · May 17, 2015, 07:52:08 PM

Funny enough, I think I'm starting to develop a keyword system whenever I listen to anything in the news. One of these keyword systems is related to news articles in the US.

If I hear or see any of these words, "Gun," "US," "America," "Any one of the 50 states," and "Shooting," in the same sentence together, then I skip the news because I already know the outcome.

Asshole people with guns
Asshole people with guns shoot people
People die
Asshole people with guns get shot by other people with guns
Asshole people die

How dreadfully exciting and positive.

CK97 · May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PM

Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.

Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PM

Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.
"It's to prevent tyranny"

Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.

>"tyranny is irrelevant"
>North Korea exists

LOOOOOOOL

Sandtrap · May 17, 2015, 07:54:15 PM

Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.

Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.
"It's to prevent tyranny"

Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.
>"tyranny is irrelevant"
>North Korea exists

LOOOOOOOL

Not Comms Officer · May 17, 2015, 07:55:13 PM

Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.

Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.
"It's to prevent tyranny"

Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.
>"tyranny is irrelevant"
>North Korea exists

LOOOOOOOL

Spoiler

CK97 · May 17, 2015, 07:57:05 PM

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:55:13 PM

Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.

Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.
"It's to prevent tyranny"

Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.
>"tyranny is irrelevant"
>North Korea exists

LOOOOOOOL
Spoiler

Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:54:15 PM

Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.

Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.
"It's to prevent tyranny"

Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.
>"tyranny is irrelevant"
>North Korea exists

LOOOOOOOL

Are you both that fucking dumb as to deny North Korea as a tyrannical country

Holy shit LOOOOOOOL

Not Comms Officer · May 17, 2015, 07:59:56 PM

Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:57:05 PM

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:55:13 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.

Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.
"It's to prevent tyranny"

Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.
>"tyranny is irrelevant"
>North Korea exists

LOOOOOOOL
Spoiler
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:54:15 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.

Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.
"It's to prevent tyranny"

Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.
>"tyranny is irrelevant"
>North Korea exists

LOOOOOOOL

Are you both that fucking dumb as to deny North Korea as a tyrannical country

Holy shit LOOOOOOOL

>implying that North Korea and the US are related at all

Sandtrap · May 17, 2015, 08:02:01 PM

Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:57:05 PM

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:55:13 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.

Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.
"It's to prevent tyranny"

Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.
>"tyranny is irrelevant"
>North Korea exists

LOOOOOOOL
Spoiler
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:54:15 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.

Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.
"It's to prevent tyranny"

Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.
>"tyranny is irrelevant"
>North Korea exists

LOOOOOOOL

Are you both that fucking dumb as to deny North Korea as a tyrannical country

Holy shit LOOOOOOOL

No. I'm just stating that this a circular argument.

Present anything even remotely suggesting that guns can be an issue + a patriot = Denial, the 2nd amendment excuse, and shifting the subject matter.

AKA the subject going from the 2nd amendment and its outdated practice in the modern age in concerns to how much power the US Government could exert with military force over the civilian populace, shifting to all the way overseas to North Korea.

Circular argument.

It'll just keep going round and round.

Sandtrap · May 17, 2015, 08:14:44 PM

Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:57:05 PM

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:55:13 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.

Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.
"It's to prevent tyranny"

Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.
>"tyranny is irrelevant"
>North Korea exists

LOOOOOOOL
Spoiler
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:54:15 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PM
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Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

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It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.

Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.

Spoiler
It wouldn't have.
Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.

So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.
"It's to prevent tyranny"

Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.
>"tyranny is irrelevant"
>North Korea exists

LOOOOOOOL

Are you both that fucking dumb as to deny North Korea as a tyrannical country

Holy shit LOOOOOOOL

To sum it up better than I did. The second amendment was primarily made to give the civilian populace the power to overthrow their government if they deemed it a tyrannical one.

This, was a fair policy a few hundred years ago when their was only guns.

Now, the civilian populace would have to go up against artillery, attack choppers, jets, drones, tanks, and of course, infantry with better equipment.

The second amendment's true purpose is often forgotten about and simplified down to, "Everybody gets guns just because." As such, the second amendment is out of date. It no longer applies to its original meaning. And it's just used as a scapegoat and an excuse to have guns.

Which, to be fair, the problem can no longer be fixed.

You take away the guns by introducing stricter gun laws and the civilian populace will be harmed greatly because of the staggering number of gun related crime and criminals.

As such.

Like I said. Everybody's played their hand. And all we can do is sit back and see what happens.