Only the gang members died.Nothing of value was lost.
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:57:05 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:55:13 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOLSpoilerQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOLAre you both that fucking dumb as to deny North Korea as a tyrannical countryHoly shit LOOOOOOOL
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:55:13 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOLSpoilerQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOL
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOLSpoiler
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOL
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.
I hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.
>implying that North Korea and the US are related at all
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:57:05 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:55:13 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOLSpoilerQuote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:54:15 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOLAre you both that fucking dumb as to deny North Korea as a tyrannical countryHoly shit LOOOOOOOLNo. I'm just stating that this a circular argument. Present anything even remotely suggesting that guns can be an issue + a patriot = Denial, the 2nd amendment excuse, and shifting the subject matter.AKA the subject going from the 2nd amendment and its outdated practice in the modern age in concerns to how much power the US Government could exert with military force over the civilian populace, shifting to all the way overseas to North Korea.Circular argument.It'll just keep going round and round.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:55:13 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOLSpoilerQuote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:54:15 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOLAre you both that fucking dumb as to deny North Korea as a tyrannical countryHoly shit LOOOOOOOL
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOLSpoiler
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOL
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOL
Quote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:57:05 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:55:13 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOLSpoilerQuote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:54:15 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 17, 2015, 07:43:01 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Ah the age old "prevention of tyranny" excuse. Applicable to the old times, perhaps. But not now. It's a quaint little thing, those arguments. Fully fledged circles. Round and round it goes.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOLAre you both that fucking dumb as to deny North Korea as a tyrannical countryHoly shit LOOOOOOOLTo sum it up better than I did. The second amendment was primarily made to give the civilian populace the power to overthrow their government if they deemed it a tyrannical one.This, was a fair policy a few hundred years ago when their was only guns.Now, the civilian populace would have to go up against artillery, attack choppers, jets, drones, tanks, and of course, infantry with better equipment.The second amendment's true purpose is often forgotten about and simplified down to, "Everybody gets guns just because." As such, the second amendment is out of date. It no longer applies to its original meaning. And it's just used as a scapegoat and an excuse to have guns.Which, to be fair, the problem can no longer be fixed.You take away the guns by introducing stricter gun laws and the civilian populace will be harmed greatly because of the staggering number of gun related crime and criminals.As such.Like I said. Everybody's played their hand. And all we can do is sit back and see what happens.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:59:56 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:57:05 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:55:13 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOLSpoilerQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:52:50 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock.Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:43:49 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:38:16 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 07:32:55 PMQuote from: CK97 on May 17, 2015, 07:31:45 PMI hope you're not indirectly implying that gun control would've prevented this.SpoilerIt wouldn't have.Guns should have never been legal in the first place in the US. Gun control won't fix the massive mistake that was made when the 2nd Amendment was made, and now the only solution is going to be some crazy, outside-the-box sort of thing.So no, gun control isn't an effective solution to gun crime.It's to prevent tyranny. Also, there are still people like my grandfather who live out in the countryside who need a gun in order to protect their livestock."It's to prevent tyranny"Lol. That is fucking hilarious. That's maybe what they thought in 1787, but that's hopelessly irrelevant now.>"tyranny is irrelevant">North Korea existsLOOOOOOOLAre you both that fucking dumb as to deny North Korea as a tyrannical countryHoly shit LOOOOOOOLQuote>implying that North Korea and the US are related at allSpoilerExcept I never said that. You said tyranny isn't relevant, I completely refuted your point by saying that North Korea exists. Lmao you act like you're so smart but you're seriously just a dumbass, I can't even tell you how many people think that of you and it's pathetic. There's no point in even trying to talk sense into that thick skull of yours. Bye.
>civilian or militia forces would never be a threat to government or militaryNever underestimate the private sector.
Quote from: DAS "كافر" B00T on May 17, 2015, 08:24:46 PM>civilian or militia forces would never be a threat to government or militaryNever underestimate the private sector.Oh, so a pre-existing insurgency with a significant amount of support being a threat to an unstable and barely established Government with a poorly trained army.What a shocker.Arab armies are trash. Why the fuck do you think they could never overrun Israel despite the fact that they greatly outnumbered them and even outgunned them on several occasions.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 08:33:11 PMQuote from: DAS "كافر" B00T on May 17, 2015, 08:24:46 PM>civilian or militia forces would never be a threat to government or militaryNever underestimate the private sector.Oh, so a pre-existing insurgency with a significant amount of support being a threat to an unstable and barely established Government with a poorly trained army.What a shocker.Arab armies are trash. Why the fuck do you think they could never overrun Israel despite the fact that they greatly outnumbered them and even outgunned them on several occasions.Because the Israeli war machine was a US money sink. Can't beat that with shitty leftover IS series tanks and sloppy Kalashnikov rifles. Also, Scoreboard. Rednecks with their pappy's varmint rifle should have won the civil war.
Lots of the Union's military facilities and soldiers transferred over to the Confederacy,
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 08:42:14 PMLots of the Union's military facilities and soldiers transferred over to the Confederacy,And that wouldn't happen again in a comparable situation?
b-buh muh second amendment. Nobody would goet shot if more people had guns. Guns prevent bullying#Wakeupamerica #gunsforkids2015-some repubican B.Net mod
Quote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 17, 2015, 09:02:10 PMb-buh muh second amendment. Nobody would goet shot if more people had guns. Guns prevent bullying#Wakeupamerica #gunsforkids2015-some repubican B.Net modBut muh black choppas!!
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 09:07:42 PMQuote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 17, 2015, 09:02:10 PMb-buh muh second amendment. Nobody would goet shot if more people had guns. Guns prevent bullying#Wakeupamerica #gunsforkids2015-some repubican B.Net modBut muh black choppas!!It's Ok. I can stop the Gay Commie Muslim Nigger President's tanks with muh dad's M4
Quote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 17, 2015, 09:11:38 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 09:07:42 PMQuote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 17, 2015, 09:02:10 PMb-buh muh second amendment. Nobody would goet shot if more people had guns. Guns prevent bullying#Wakeupamerica #gunsforkids2015-some repubican B.Net modBut muh black choppas!!It's Ok. I can stop the Gay Commie Muslim Nigger President's tanks with muh dad's M4I got you covered. I have this one bolt-action rifle from wwI, and I can use it to shoot down those F-35s that would otherwise bomb the fuck out of us.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 09:13:52 PMQuote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 17, 2015, 09:11:38 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 09:07:42 PMQuote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 17, 2015, 09:02:10 PMb-buh muh second amendment. Nobody would goet shot if more people had guns. Guns prevent bullying#Wakeupamerica #gunsforkids2015-some repubican B.Net modBut muh black choppas!!It's Ok. I can stop the Gay Commie Muslim Nigger President's tanks with muh dad's M4I got you covered. I have this one bolt-action rifle from wwI, and I can use it to shoot down those F-35s that would otherwise bomb the fuck out of us.YouTube
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 09:13:52 PMQuote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 17, 2015, 09:11:38 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 17, 2015, 09:07:42 PMQuote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 17, 2015, 09:02:10 PMb-buh muh second amendment. Nobody would goet shot if more people had guns. Guns prevent bullying#Wakeupamerica #gunsforkids2015-some repubican B.Net modBut muh black choppas!!It's Ok. I can stop the Gay Commie Muslim Nigger President's tanks with muh dad's M4I got you covered. I have this one bolt-action rifle from wwI, and I can use it to shoot down those F-35s that would otherwise bomb the fuck out of us.This I would believe though. The F-35 is a trash project with inadequate results and poor aerial performance. I see no reason to believe that a lucky 30-06 wouldn't fuck it over any further. But then again, I hate any single-engine modern fighter... and multi role fighters that aren't multi role... and anything with avionics packages beyond reason for it's airframe and capabilities...
Yet another shooting in the US.
