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My stupidity is self evident.

God's an asshole. He could prevent miscarriages, but instead lets it happen.
What a buthurt supreme fedora tipper
Is today 4Chan buzzword day?
If he can prevent miscarriages, but doesn't, that makes him a twat.
Somebody doesn't have the comprehension to read my explanation. Death=/=bad. Jesus sacrificed himself to save ALL life. A fetus IS a life and therefor it is saved. The child gets a one-way ticket to Heaven where they don't have to experience hostile human nature in life. Probably the best thing that can happen to a person
So if you and all your family were to die tomorrow, it'd be the best thing that could ever happen to you and them?

That's just straight fucked up logic you've got there. I hope all religious people aren't this deranged.
You seriously have a reading comprehension issue I can see. Do you have down-syndrome or something?

I said a miscarriage is the best thing because the child goes to Heaven. It won't have to live a life experiencing what human nature is. Where the hell did I even bring up me and my family? Lol, you're seriously pathetic
I don't even...
 A child dying before birth is a terrible thing to happen and absolutely isn't better than it never having the chance to live.
You're seriously fucking deranged if you think a miscarriage is a good thing to happen at all, and I hope nobody else is as mentally backwards as you.
If you got your wife/girlfriend pregnant, would you be happy if she were to have a miscarriage?
To both you and Kinder, take the word miscarriage and replace it w/ abortion.
That's different because it's murder.
According to Kinder's reasoning it's still the best thing for the child, they go to heaven w/o having to experience bad shit.

In fact, allow me to apply some fucked up utilitarian logic to this situation. If Kinder's logic is to be believed then we should be conceiving and aborting in insane numbers because this would only increase the number of souls in heaven and therefor the total amount of wellbeing/happiness. After which we could all just pray for forgiveness on our deathbeds.
God is all forgiving, yes, but he's also all merciful. A mass murderer can't just say 'I'm sorry' at the very end of his life and expect to go to Heaven. And yes, an aborted baby does go to Heaven, and that's a good thing, but it's not the best thing. As a religious scientist, you can simply work out most of these issues in your head. Really, it's not that hard for anyone else claiming to be a scientist or engineer to do.
First of all, I never claimed to be a scientist or engineer, I'm working on it but I've got a long way to go.

>all forgiving
>all merciful

It's these sort of absolute statements that cause anything you people believe to be hopelessly contradictory.

Did I not say I was going by Kinder's logic? He said and I quote
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The child gets a one-way ticket to Heaven where they don't have to experience hostile human nature in life. Probably the best thing that can happen to a person
The bottom line is that you're not going to understand God until you first believe in him, hence why you'll die an atheist and never go to Heaven. I'll pray for you, but that only goes so far.
"You must believe in it for it to work."

Words uttered by every snake oil salesman and charlatan ever. Forgive me if I'm entirely unconvinced or impressed.
If God isn't real then what made the universe?
I DON'T KNOW! I don't know if we ever will.

And I'm perfectly fine w/ that fact. That doesn't mean I don't want to find out and that doesn't mean I don't think we have a decent idea of where to start.

Pls stop rusing me.
So gravity huh? You can't technically prove the graviton exists, but you know it's there. Is that not any different from believing in God?
>mfw I drop any object and it reacts just as predicted by gravitational theory
>mfw evidence supporting gravitational theory actually exists
>mfw you test gravitational theory everyday
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Cool opinion man. It's not to me, but I'm Christian, not Jewish. I don't really care what they do because I'm not some butthurt angsty teen that cares what people believe

Okay, but that doesn't change the fact it's still the same god.

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>implying the Bible was written by God
Take a history course. Bible (New Testament) was written after Jesus's death and went through MANY translations and changes to fit the needs of different people.

You're not helping yourself here.

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To actually take it for 100% face value is the dumbest thing a person can do

So where does it say what is and isn't true?  A fundamentalist approach is a possible one because it doesn't say anywhere. 


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Not arguing anything. I'm using facts, something you're not

>admits to book being written long after the events occurred and going through hundreds of edits and revisions, in the previous quote even says not to take anything at face value, then says he's only using facts

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Proof? God loves everybody unconditionally and Jesus died so he can save everybody. Hell is where those who don't want to follow God end up but why would Satan want to torture people like him? Logic. Please use

>god loves everybody unconditionally
>Well except the condition you have to believe in me or go to Hell.  Hue

Never said satan tortures people.
Logic, please use it.

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Yet you're not using reading comprehension 80% of LIFE lives in the OCEAN. Oceans are a SALTWATER environment. How can 80% of life live if they don't have a habitat to support them

>My comment specifically mentions humans
>"ALL LIFE MAN!"

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God gave warning to the Pharaoh before hand to let free the Hebrew slaves. He didn't listen. It was the Pharaoh's choice that the plagues and that stuff happened

Yeah pushing a guys responsibility onto innocent babies and killing them is not only logical but also totally loving and merciful.
/sarcasm

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Yeah, he didn't have a bear kill children. For one, they were adults as the term used in Hebrew means so. Secondly, God was trying to protect the man as he was going to be killed by the crowd if he didn't intervene. Thirdly, there's no indication that anybody died from the bear.

2 Kings 2:23-25

"from their Elisha went up to Bethel.  as he was walking along the road, some bullies came out of the town and jeered at him.  "Get outta here, baldy!" He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord.  Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.  And he went on to Mount Carmel and from there returned to Samaria."

The term is very broad and means from 13 up to 26 I believe. 

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God also didn't torture Abraham

I actually meant Job, but someone willingly killing their child because a voice told them too is still pretty shitty.

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You're SERIOUSLY going to blame people for God? So I should blame the Secretary of Transportation for the Iraq War? lolkthen

What part of "leave us the gift of peace" means bloody wars and witch burning?
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My stupidity is self evident.

God's an asshole. He could prevent miscarriages, but instead lets it happen.
What a buthurt supreme fedora tipper
Is today 4Chan buzzword day?
If he can prevent miscarriages, but doesn't, that makes him a twat.
Somebody doesn't have the comprehension to read my explanation. Death=/=bad. Jesus sacrificed himself to save ALL life. A fetus IS a life and therefor it is saved. The child gets a one-way ticket to Heaven where they don't have to experience hostile human nature in life. Probably the best thing that can happen to a person
So if you and all your family were to die tomorrow, it'd be the best thing that could ever happen to you and them?

That's just straight fucked up logic you've got there. I hope all religious people aren't this deranged.
You seriously have a reading comprehension issue I can see. Do you have down-syndrome or something?

I said a miscarriage is the best thing because the child goes to Heaven. It won't have to live a life experiencing what human nature is. Where the hell did I even bring up me and my family? Lol, you're seriously pathetic
I don't even...
 A child dying before birth is a terrible thing to happen and absolutely isn't better than it never having the chance to live.
You're seriously fucking deranged if you think a miscarriage is a good thing to happen at all, and I hope nobody else is as mentally backwards as you.
If you got your wife/girlfriend pregnant, would you be happy if she were to have a miscarriage?
To both you and Kinder, take the word miscarriage and replace it w/ abortion.
That's different because it's murder.
According to Kinder's reasoning it's still the best thing for the child, they go to heaven w/o having to experience bad shit.

In fact, allow me to apply some fucked up utilitarian logic to this situation. If Kinder's logic is to be believed then we should be conceiving and aborting in insane numbers because this would only increase the number of souls in heaven and therefor the total amount of wellbeing/happiness. After which we could all just pray for forgiveness on our deathbeds.
God is all forgiving, yes, but he's also all merciful. A mass murderer can't just say 'I'm sorry' at the very end of his life and expect to go to Heaven. And yes, an aborted baby does go to Heaven, and that's a good thing, but it's not the best thing. As a religious scientist, you can simply work out most of these issues in your head. Really, it's not that hard for anyone else claiming to be a scientist or engineer to do.
First of all, I never claimed to be a scientist or engineer, I'm working on it but I've got a long way to go.

>all forgiving
>all merciful

It's these sort of absolute statements that cause anything you people believe to be hopelessly contradictory.

Did I not say I was going by Kinder's logic? He said and I quote
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The child gets a one-way ticket to Heaven where they don't have to experience hostile human nature in life. Probably the best thing that can happen to a person
The bottom line is that you're not going to understand God until you first believe in him, hence why you'll die an atheist and never go to Heaven. I'll pray for you, but that only goes so far.
"You must believe in it for it to work."

Words uttered by every snake oil salesman and charlatan ever. Forgive me if I'm entirely unconvinced or impressed.
If God isn't real then what made the universe?
I DON'T KNOW! I don't know if we ever will.

And I'm perfectly fine w/ that fact. That doesn't mean I don't want to find out and that doesn't mean I don't think we have a decent idea of where to start.

Pls stop rusing me.
So gravity huh? You can't technically prove the graviton exists, but you know it's there. Is that not any different from believing in God?
>mfw I drop any object and it reacts just as predicted by gravitational theory
>mfw evidence supporting gravitational theory actually exists
>mfw you test gravitational theory everyday
>mfw dustin is rusing
You should debate with Turkey on the existence of God.
The funny thing is that I was originally just concerned w/ Kinder's Verbatim-esqe logic and not w/ the existence of god.

I'd rather this thread just not exist in all honesty.
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God's an asshole. He could prevent miscarriages, but instead lets it happen.
What a buthurt supreme fedora tipper
Is today 4Chan buzzword day?
If he can prevent miscarriages, but doesn't, that makes him a twat.
Somebody doesn't have the comprehension to read my explanation. Death=/=bad. Jesus sacrificed himself to save ALL life. A fetus IS a life and therefor it is saved. The child gets a one-way ticket to Heaven where they don't have to experience hostile human nature in life. Probably the best thing that can happen to a person
So if you and all your family were to die tomorrow, it'd be the best thing that could ever happen to you and them?

That's just straight fucked up logic you've got there. I hope all religious people aren't this deranged.
You seriously have a reading comprehension issue I can see. Do you have down-syndrome or something?

I said a miscarriage is the best thing because the child goes to Heaven. It won't have to live a life experiencing what human nature is. Where the hell did I even bring up me and my family? Lol, you're seriously pathetic
I don't even...
 A child dying before birth is a terrible thing to happen and absolutely isn't better than it never having the chance to live.
You're seriously fucking deranged if you think a miscarriage is a good thing to happen at all, and I hope nobody else is as mentally backwards as you.
If you got your wife/girlfriend pregnant, would you be happy if she were to have a miscarriage?
God, what the fuck do they teach in Britbongistan? Because your deducive reasoning is atrocious

A miscarriage isn't a bad thing nor something to be angry towards God at because the child will go to Heaven and live in peace
A miscarriage is absolutely a bad thing you mentally deranged spastic.
But hey, isn't abortion bad according to your fictional book and imaginary friend? Those double standards, eh?
>not using deductive reasoning

You're foaming at the mouth with autism, are you? Might go back to b.lind you sad, pathetic britfag

It's not an absolutely bad thing. If you use logic then you'd realize that one, the fetus/child is already saved so they can go to Heaven and live in peace. Secondly, having the ability to jump straight tow Heaven is a far more pleasing option than having to live and see what humanity actually is: News flash, we're a bunch of savages that will rip each other's throats out

Miscarriage=natural act that can't be helped
Abortion=Murder where it can be prevented
It's pretty ironic that you're calling me autistic yet you're the one who's saying a miscarriage isn't a bad thing and is better than being born.

Please never reproduce, because you'd probably make your kids as fucked up as you. The less mentally deranged spastics in the world the better.

Fucking religion.
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Cool opinion man. It's not to me, but I'm Christian, not Jewish. I don't really care what they do because I'm not some butthurt angsty teen that cares what people believe

Okay, but that doesn't change the fact it's still the same god.

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>implying the Bible was written by God
Take a history course. Bible (New Testament) was written after Jesus's death and went through MANY translations and changes to fit the needs of different people.

You're not helping yourself here.

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To actually take it for 100% face value is the dumbest thing a person can do

So where does it say what is and isn't true?  A fundamentalist approach is a possible one because it doesn't say anywhere. 


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Not arguing anything. I'm using facts, something you're not

>admits to book being written long after the events occurred and going through hundreds of edits and revisions, in the previous quote even says not to take anything at face value, then says he's only using facts

LOL

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Proof? God loves everybody unconditionally and Jesus died so he can save everybody. Hell is where those who don't want to follow God end up but why would Satan want to torture people like him? Logic. Please use

>god loves everybody unconditionally
>Well except the condition you have to believe in me or go to Hell.  Hue

Never said satan tortures people.
Logic, please use it.

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Yet you're not using reading comprehension 80% of LIFE lives in the OCEAN. Oceans are a SALTWATER environment. How can 80% of life live if they don't have a habitat to support them

>My comment specifically mentions humans
>"ALL LIFE MAN!"

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God gave warning to the Pharaoh before hand to let free the Hebrew slaves. He didn't listen. It was the Pharaoh's choice that the plagues and that stuff happened

Yeah pushing a guys responsibility onto innocent babies and killing them is not only logical but also totally loving and merciful.
/sarcasm

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Yeah, he didn't have a bear kill children. For one, they were adults as the term used in Hebrew means so. Secondly, God was trying to protect the man as he was going to be killed by the crowd if he didn't intervene. Thirdly, there's no indication that anybody died from the bear.

2 Kings 2:23-25

"from their Elisha went up to Bethel.  as he was walking along the road, some bullies came out of the town and jeered at him.  "Get outta here, baldy!" He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord.  Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.  And he went on to Mount Carmel and from there returned to Samaria."

The term is very broad and means from 13 up to 26 I believe. 

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God also didn't torture Abraham

I actually meant Job, but someone willingly killing their child because a voice told them too is still pretty shitty.

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You're SERIOUSLY going to blame people for God? So I should blame the Secretary of Transportation for the Iraq War? lolkthen

What part of "leave us the gift of peace" means bloody wars and witch burning?
Nice rebuttal. Not. It's a covenant expressing the promise between God and man. I don't question why you fat ass atheist spastics have to grow pubs on your fucking neck

How am I not helping myself? You're tying to base something written by humans, not me

Through common sense and reasoning. A source that has gone through countless changes will NOT be the same as how it was originally made

What are you trying to prove? If you're showing us how much of a retard you are then you're passing through with flying colors

People only go to Hell if they refuse to accept God. Everybody has the chance to enter Heaven but God can't control if you want to stay or not. Once again, proving that God created self-choice. You're implying that Hell=torture. Common sense says that why would Satan want to torture people like him?

God created all living things. The reason why much of the water on Earth is saltwater is to keep the majority of Earth's population alive. Here I am giving you a logical reasoning yet you substitute it by placing pants on your head. Just because humans can't properly distrubute what we're given, that doesn't mean God is to blame

lolwut? The Pharaoh was a grown ass man capable of making decisions, as that's his fucking job to do. He refusing to listen to God isn't God's fault

Yet why do insist they are all children? Your pathetic attempt here is astonishing. But where do you see they were killed? Mauled means to attack and injure (someone) in a way that cuts or tears skin. How does that=killing? Again, take those pants off your head

Except God didn't torture Job. Satan tortured Job.

I don't know because you're the one that brought up witch burning

Contiue to display your ignorance and retarded atheist "logic", as if there ever is and will be any


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Except God loves unconditionally. Where are you getting otherwise? A book that has gone through many translations and adaptations over time? GG no re
Responding to a humorous macro is stupid in the first instance, but since you've decided to play prime mover then I'll assert the manifest idea that you shouldn't believe in such a book in the first place, considering its already weak metaphysical claims.

Not to mention, I've no idea what sort of translation error could lead to something as substantial as when humans were created being contradicted in a short space of text. Never mind the other endless contradictions of the bible and, especially, the Gospels.


 
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I said a miscarriage is the best thing because the child goes to Heaven. It won't have to live a life experiencing what human nature is.

In 1958, at a time of heightened fear of nuclear war and mutual destruction between the West and the Soviet Union, Fisher said that he was "convinced that it is never right to settle any policy simply out of fear of the consequences...For all I know it is within the providence of God that the human race should destroy itself in this manner [nuclear war]." He was also quoted as saying, "The very worst the Bomb can do is to sweep a vast number of People from this world into the next into which they must all go anyway".


 
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I can't neither confirm nor refute the Judeo-Christian version of God's existence.
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Except God loves unconditionally. Where are you getting otherwise? A book that has gone through many translations and adaptations over time? GG no re
Responding to a humorous macro is stupid in the first instance, but since you've decided to play prime mover then I'll assert the manifest idea that you shouldn't believe in such a book in the first place, considering its already weak metaphysical claims.

Not to mention, I've no idea what sort of translation error could lead to something as substantial as when humans were created being contradicted in a short space of text. Never mind the other endless contradictions of the bible and, especially, the Gospels.
The Bible offers great metaphors on life teachings. Take the story of Gomorrah: What's depicted may not have happened but it does teach that things like sodomy are bad. Another would be the bear sent to defend the man preaching. Were they all kids who were killed? Highly unlikely but the moral is that those who follow and preach the name of God will be given his protection

There is no statement that life or Earth began 6,000 years ago. There has carbon-dating and other things that prove Earth is billions of years old. Again, the Bible was written by humans and the concept of 7 days used to create the Earth is only so because human concept of time, at that era, was limited to what a day was perceived. We now know today that if you go to Mercury then a day there is far shorter than an Earth day


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Except God loves unconditionally. Where are you getting otherwise? A book that has gone through many translations and adaptations over time? GG no re
Responding to a humorous macro is stupid in the first instance, but since you've decided to play prime mover then I'll assert the manifest idea that you shouldn't believe in such a book in the first place, considering its already weak metaphysical claims.

Not to mention, I've no idea what sort of translation error could lead to something as substantial as when humans were created being contradicted in a short space of text. Never mind the other endless contradictions of the bible and, especially, the Gospels.
Take the story of Gomorrah:



Hold the fucking phone, the bible has a Guardians of the Galaxy reference?

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Yeah, all of that's great but it still doesn't account for the fact that the Bible makes some extraordinarily specific claims, alongside other standard Christian doctrine like the Nicene Creed.


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