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i want to be healthy
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 15, 2015, 07:03:20 PM"Universally better" =/= better because some people will like you moreI guess it's not as objective as I'd like to admit. But you'd be more inclined to friends, to appeal. Which can make you financially more successful.I consider that better.
"Universally better" =/= better because some people will like you more
Why would I want friends who are only friends with me because I'm muscular?
Financial success? What does that have to do at all about your body type? I don't think when I apply to work at a pharmacy, they're going to be judging my BMI.
And like I said, being muscular just makes you look more like a burly man. I don't want that image.
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People like muscular men not because of some obscure neuron in their brain telling them that it's more aesthetically pleasing, but because muscular men are more of the epitome of manliness.
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 15, 2015, 07:22:55 PMPeople like muscular men not because of some obscure neuron in their brain telling them that it's more aesthetically pleasing, but because muscular men are more of the epitome of manliness.Those are the exact same thing in this scenario, though.
Men respect me moreI get more attention from girlsI feel strong and confident thanks to my bodyPeople tend to be friendlier to mePeople say they feel safe with me(srs lol)
Quote from: Jive Turkey on September 15, 2015, 08:53:38 PMMen respect me moreI get more attention from girlsI feel strong and confident thanks to my bodyPeople tend to be friendlier to mePeople say they feel safe with me(srs lol)Notice that all of these advantages are in relation to other people
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 15, 2015, 08:55:26 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on September 15, 2015, 08:53:38 PMMen respect me moreI get more attention from girlsI feel strong and confident thanks to my bodyPeople tend to be friendlier to mePeople say they feel safe with me(srs lol)Notice that all of these advantages are in relation to other people...Yes, most people favor being at an advantage when it comes to their relationships with others, no? Humans are fundamentally driven by our interactions with others, why would somebody not want to heighten their social, physical, and mental capabilities?
That same feeling of control comes with staying thin and in shape. I just don't like muscles. Don't like how they look or what they represent. They remind me too much of "manly" dudebros. I find thin people infinitely more attractive than muscleheads. Society obviously disagrees with me, as Snake said, because buffness is the typical "guy" trait, and people eat that up.
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 15, 2015, 09:03:29 PMThat same feeling of control comes with staying thin and in shape. I just don't like muscles. Don't like how they look or what they represent. They remind me too much of "manly" dudebros. I find thin people infinitely more attractive than muscleheads. Society obviously disagrees with me, as Snake said, because buffness is the typical "guy" trait, and people eat that up.You're also stereotyping and entire group of people solely based on the fact that they have more muscle than you. To admit that your distaste for muscles is partially contributed to by the fact that you believe it represents something is a flaw on your end.
Quote from: Winy on September 15, 2015, 09:11:03 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 15, 2015, 08:55:26 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on September 15, 2015, 08:53:38 PMMen respect me moreI get more attention from girlsI feel strong and confident thanks to my bodyPeople tend to be friendlier to mePeople say they feel safe with me(srs lol)Notice that all of these advantages are in relation to other people...Yes, most people favor being at an advantage when it comes to their relationships with others, no? Humans are fundamentally driven by our interactions with others, why would somebody not want to heighten their social, physical, and mental capabilities?Because the people who are going to like me more for being muscular aren't the people I want to chill with. I don't want people to look at me and think I'm buff, I want people to look at me and think I'm thin.
Quote from: Winy on September 15, 2015, 09:13:02 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 15, 2015, 09:03:29 PMThat same feeling of control comes with staying thin and in shape. I just don't like muscles. Don't like how they look or what they represent. They remind me too much of "manly" dudebros. I find thin people infinitely more attractive than muscleheads. Society obviously disagrees with me, as Snake said, because buffness is the typical "guy" trait, and people eat that up.You're also stereotyping and entire group of people solely based on the fact that they have more muscle than you. To admit that your distaste for muscles is partially contributed to by the fact that you believe it represents something is a flaw on your end.You can't deny that being muscular is a typically masculine trait. And I'm stereotyping now? I said for me. Not for everyone.
you literally can't win picking either of these options.
You are making the misjudgement of assuming that all benefits of doing strength training come from reactive consequences, and that these reactive consequences are solely derived from your physique. This isn't the case; you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body. These are all internal properties that affect your ability to communicate with people.
Quote from: Winy on September 15, 2015, 09:18:30 PMYou are making the misjudgement of assuming that all benefits of doing strength training come from reactive consequences, and that these reactive consequences are solely derived from your physique. This isn't the case; you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body. These are all internal properties that affect your ability to communicate with people.And you're making the misjudgment that being muscular positively affects your self-worth and confidence. When I stayed at my great-uncle's cabin in the UP two summers ago, we pretty much had no electricity and had to cut down trees and do manual labor and all of that to run the generator. By the time the summer was over, I was getting pretty muscular, and I hated it. I'm just not the type of person who derives positive value from being toned. When someone tells me I'm a twig, that makes me so much happier than when people told me I was "getting some muscle". It's pretty ignorant to assume that getting buff is some inherent bringer of self-value and happiness. I release endorphins when I work out, sure, but nearly all of my workouts are cardio-based.
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Would you rather be skinny or muscular