Witnessed a Police shooting...

AngryBrute · February 24, 2015, 08:35:18 AM

Ok I am currently at work and its cold as balls here. Looked out my window and saw police lights out front and two guys in the street. One of those two guys had a knife and was thrusting it towards the other guy. At that same time, the cop got out of his car with his weapon drawn on them! He then shot the guy with the knife! About 4 frikin times!!!!!

Holy shit!

Girl of Mystery · February 24, 2015, 08:35:49 AM

Solonoid · February 24, 2015, 08:37:09 AM

Lol.

Fucking niggers.

Aether · February 24, 2015, 08:37:17 AM

Damn nigs, where do you live eh?

AngryBrute · February 24, 2015, 08:38:04 AM

Quote from: DemonicChronic on February 24, 2015, 08:37:17 AM

Damn nigs, where do you live eh?

South East Texas

UnwornUniform · February 24, 2015, 08:38:25 AM

You crazy Americans. Hahaha. Always having zany adventures!

OhMeOhMy · February 24, 2015, 08:39:24 AM

A split-second decision where one individual was a clear and immediate danger to the life of another individual.

Were you able to hear what was going on? I would imagine that the officer shouted at the person with the knife drop it. If the person with the knife didn't and was closing on the unarmed person? Sounds to me (based on what little information that I have) like a quick, but proper/reasonable decision to employ lethal force in order to protect another.

Luciana · February 24, 2015, 08:40:05 AM

Pro Tip: If you don't wanna die, don't attack cops, and stay put when they tell you to.

I remember they tried to make a big deal out of the (black) cop shooting another black dude who walked towards him with his hands kinda up.

What they forgot to mention was the cop was saying "DON'T FUCKING MOVE!" over 20 times and warning the other cop he was reaching for something, THEN comes out.

Seriously, why are people so retarded?

AngryBrute · February 24, 2015, 08:41:45 AM

Quote from: OhMeOhMy on February 24, 2015, 08:39:24 AM

A split-second decision where one individual was a clear and immediate danger to the life of another individual.

Were you able to hear what was going on? I would imagine that the officer shouted at the person with the knife drop it. If the person with the knife didn't and was closing on the unarmed person? Sounds to me (based on what little information that I have) like a quick, but proper/reasonable decision to employ lethal force in order to protect another.

I was inside, so I couldn't hear. But I saw the cops mouth moving.

OhMeOhMy · February 24, 2015, 08:45:29 AM

Quote from: AngryBrute on February 24, 2015, 08:41:45 AM

Quote from: OhMeOhMy on February 24, 2015, 08:39:24 AM
A split-second decision where one individual was a clear and immediate danger to the life of another individual.

Were you able to hear what was going on? I would imagine that the officer shouted at the person with the knife drop it. If the person with the knife didn't and was closing on the unarmed person? Sounds to me (based on what little information that I have) like a quick, but proper/reasonable decision to employ lethal force in order to protect another.
I was inside, so I couldn't hear. But I saw the cops mouth moving.

Well, I doubt that he was singing "Anaconda", but you never know.

Since you've witnessed the event, and it was a police shooting, my guess is that detectives will be on scene to investigate the incident. Are you going to come forward and offer your statement?

Ender · February 24, 2015, 08:46:02 AM

With all the shit about "cops shouldn't shoot this guy", how about you not be fucking autistic and not fuck around with a cop

AngryBrute · February 24, 2015, 08:47:38 AM

Quote from: OhMeOhMy on February 24, 2015, 08:45:29 AM

Quote from: AngryBrute on February 24, 2015, 08:41:45 AM
Quote from: OhMeOhMy on February 24, 2015, 08:39:24 AM
A split-second decision where one individual was a clear and immediate danger to the life of another individual.

Were you able to hear what was going on? I would imagine that the officer shouted at the person with the knife drop it. If the person with the knife didn't and was closing on the unarmed person? Sounds to me (based on what little information that I have) like a quick, but proper/reasonable decision to employ lethal force in order to protect another.
I was inside, so I couldn't hear. But I saw the cops mouth moving.
Well, I doubt that he was singing "Anaconda", but you never know.

Since you've witnessed the event, and it was a police shooting, my guess is that detectives will be on scene to investigate the incident. Are you going to come forward and offer your statement?

Figured I wouldn't have any choice.

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OhMeOhMy · February 24, 2015, 08:53:35 AM

Quote from: AngryBrute on February 24, 2015, 08:47:38 AM

Figured I wouldn't have any choice.

They may walk around looking for witnesses, but if they don't know that you saw the incident, you may have to tell them.

Take a moment now to go over what you saw, recollect it clearly, even write down now what you know that you saw (memory is a funny thing and our brains try to add detail that we didn't actually experience), and present it to the detectives in as a calm and "facts only" way that you can. Having clear details (but not adding them if you're unsure) such as descriptions of the people, what they were wearing, where they were standing, where they moved to, and as accurate a timeline of events as you can recall, all of that will be important and valuable. By saying "I wrote this down as soon as I could" will make your memory of events and the details that you provide even more relevant and valuable.

Statefarm · February 24, 2015, 09:46:00 AM

I'd be a horrible witness. Not sure I could remember so much stuff to be useful.

Rinev · February 24, 2015, 09:59:10 AM

Damn. Shooting him did seem right in this situation, but 4 times?! That seem like a bit much to me. What happened to cops using tasers?

AngryBrute · February 24, 2015, 10:12:15 AM

Quote from: Rinev Jeqkogo on February 24, 2015, 09:59:10 AM

Damn. Shooting him did seem right in this situation, but 4 times?! That seem like a bit much to me. What happened to cops using tasers?

If there is a threat to you or third person, you can put that person down until he stays down. Just one shot may just be a tickle to him due to adrenalin.

Tyger · February 24, 2015, 10:17:44 AM

Did he at least get a headshot?

OhMeOhMy · February 24, 2015, 10:20:00 AM

Quote from: Rinev Jeqkogo on February 24, 2015, 09:59:10 AM

Damn. Shooting him did seem right in this situation, but 4 times?! That seem like a bit much to me. What happened to cops using tasers?

It's not like the movies. A single bullet MAY stop someone instantly and 12 may not be capable of stopping someone else. When someone has made the decision to pull the trigger in order to stop a threat, they can't pull it once and then wait a moment or so to see whether or not that one shot was effective at stopping the threat. The training is, "pull the trigger and only stop pulling it when the threat stops".

If I were to shoot just once, then wait to see what happens while the threat is still armed and still moving forward, then I have attempted to use "fractional lethal force". Any good lawyer can spin that into "so you weren't SURE that lethal force was warranted and reasonable, you only wanted to use a little and see if that worked, right?" and that sort of thinking means that even my first trigger pull was not justified or was/is in question.

CK97 · February 24, 2015, 10:23:54 AM

Quote from: Rinev Jeqkogo on February 24, 2015, 09:59:10 AM

Damn. Shooting him did seem right in this situation, but 4 times?! That seem like a bit much to me. What happened to cops using tasers?

Cops are trained to shoot to kill.

OhMeOhMy · February 24, 2015, 10:32:17 AM

Quote from: CK97 on February 24, 2015, 10:23:54 AM

Quote from: Rinev Jeqkogo on February 24, 2015, 09:59:10 AM
Damn. Shooting him did seem right in this situation, but 4 times?! That seem like a bit much to me. What happened to cops using tasers?
Cops are trained to shoot to kill.

Shoot to stop actually. Stop the life-threatening crime that the target individual is committing. Once the individual stops (and the threat is no longer present) then they are trained/obligated to cease fire, assess the situation, restrain the threat and render aid (in a reasonable and safe manner). Killing the subject can be the outcome, but it is not the goal.

Rinev · February 24, 2015, 10:37:39 AM

Quote from: OhMeOhMy on February 24, 2015, 10:20:00 AM

Quote from: Rinev Jeqkogo on February 24, 2015, 09:59:10 AM
Damn. Shooting him did seem right in this situation, but 4 times?! That seem like a bit much to me. What happened to cops using tasers?
It's not like the movies. A single bullet MAY stop someone instantly and 12 may not be capable of stopping someone else. When someone has made the decision to pull the trigger in order to stop a threat, they can't pull it once and then wait a moment or so to see whether or not that one shot was effective at stopping the threat. The training is, "pull the trigger and only stop pulling it when the threat stops".

If I were to shoot just once, then wait to see what happens while the threat is still armed and still moving forward, then I have attempted to use "fractional lethal force". Any good lawyer can spin that into "so you weren't SURE that lethal force was warranted and reasonable, you only wanted to use a little and see if that worked, right?" and that sort of thinking means that even my first trigger pull was not justified or was/is in question.

To me it just seems like a bit much, although I haven't been in any situation to see anything like this happen.

Jester · February 24, 2015, 10:53:44 AM

Stupid Niggers

Jester · February 24, 2015, 10:54:10 AM

Quote from: Luciana on February 24, 2015, 08:40:05 AM

Pro Tip: If you don't wanna die, don't attack cops, and stay put when they tell you to.

I remember they tried to make a big deal out of the (black) cop shooting another black dude who walked towards him with his hands kinda up.

What they forgot to mention was the cop was saying "DON'T FUCKING MOVE!" over 20 times and warning the other cop he was reaching for something, THEN comes out.

Seriously, why are people so retarded?

This

Wishmint · February 24, 2015, 11:38:33 AM

I bet he was black

AngryBrute · February 24, 2015, 11:54:53 AM

Quote from: Wishmint on February 24, 2015, 11:38:33 AM

I bet he was black

White. Cop was Asian.

Ingy · February 24, 2015, 11:57:48 AM

O yeah

Now the first thing people will think is "oh that cop is abusing his power"

Stupid retards

gats · February 24, 2015, 01:02:30 PM

I still think 4 shots is excessive. Ive read what you guys have said about protecting lives and shit.

CK97 · February 24, 2015, 01:05:13 PM

Quote from: OhMeOhMy on February 24, 2015, 10:32:17 AM

Quote from: CK97 on February 24, 2015, 10:23:54 AM
Quote from: Rinev Jeqkogo on February 24, 2015, 09:59:10 AM
Damn. Shooting him did seem right in this situation, but 4 times?! That seem like a bit much to me. What happened to cops using tasers?
Cops are trained to shoot to kill.
Shoot to stop actually. Stop the life-threatening crime that the target individual is committing. Once the individual stops (and the threat is no longer present) then they are trained/obligated to cease fire, assess the situation, restrain the threat and render aid (in a reasonable and safe manner). Killing the subject can be the outcome, but it is not the goal.

Right, and by "stop" you should mean "kill." A citizen can legally sue a cop for bodily injury if the person shot were to survive, which is why cops are trained to use their gun only if their life or someone else's life is in danger.

My dad's a cop, in fact, that's how I know this.

aREALgod · February 24, 2015, 01:05:55 PM

Quote from: Gatsby | The Symbiote on February 24, 2015, 01:02:30 PM

I still think 4 shots is excessive. Ive read what you guys have said about protecting lives and shit.

Fatsby pls, you wouldn't know how to protect a life if a Muslim was threatening to behead ur mum on the corner and ya had a gun in your hand