why is paid maternity a thing?

gats · August 14, 2017, 02:45:50 PM

i'm more in favour of things like paid leave for periods, a baby is a choice not a right

Elai · August 14, 2017, 02:51:05 PM

I'd rather raise my own kid than have some Paki do it for me.

Turkey · August 14, 2017, 02:52:12 PM

Because incentivizing women to stay in the workforce and not relegating all who wish to raise a family to unemployment is good for the economy.

Elai · August 14, 2017, 02:53:06 PM

Is pat leave not a thing in the States?

DAS B00T x2 · August 14, 2017, 03:00:08 PM

Quote from: Snake on August 14, 2017, 02:53:06 PM

Is pat leave not a thing in the States?

Yeah but to have it be paid leave is nothing short of rare.

Elai · August 14, 2017, 03:16:03 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 14, 2017, 03:00:08 PM

Quote from: Snake on August 14, 2017, 02:53:06 PM
Is pat leave not a thing in the States?
Yeah but to have it be paid leave is nothing short of rare.

Man you guys live in a shithole

MyNameIsCharlie · August 14, 2017, 04:41:40 PM

If you don't value a good work/life balance, then I can seewhy you'd question it. Countries that have it as mandatory want you to be a person first and a worker second. The whole point of living is to live for yourself. If you choose to spend your days working for another, good for you. That's your choice.

Flee · August 14, 2017, 04:46:56 PM

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DAS B00T x2 · August 14, 2017, 04:57:04 PM

Quote from: Flee on August 14, 2017, 04:46:56 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 14, 2017, 03:00:08 PM
Quote from: Snake on August 14, 2017, 02:53:06 PM
Is pat leave not a thing in the States?
Yeah but to have it be paid leave is nothing short of rare.
Seriously? Damn dude.

Yup. State says I can't get fired for wanting a bloc of absence after my kid's born but they also say I don't have to get payed for it. That's what vacation time is for.

This is why I need meninism.

Elai · August 14, 2017, 04:58:58 PM

Wow America sucks.

Kitsune 狐 · August 14, 2017, 07:10:50 PM

Quote from: Snake on August 14, 2017, 04:58:58 PM

Wow America sucks.

Yeah it does.

Kitsune 狐 · August 14, 2017, 07:12:46 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 14, 2017, 04:57:04 PM

Quote from: Flee on August 14, 2017, 04:46:56 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 14, 2017, 03:00:08 PM
Quote from: Snake on August 14, 2017, 02:53:06 PM
Is pat leave not a thing in the States?
Yeah but to have it be paid leave is nothing short of rare.
Seriously? Damn dude.
Yup. State says I can't get fired for wanting a bloc of absence after my kid's born but they also say I don't have to get payed for it. That's what vacation time is for.

This is why I need meninism.

I think it's stupid that father's don't also have paid paternity leave. Like fuck you both gotta deal with having the baby there. Neither of you are sleeping and that can effect your job.

Risay117 · August 14, 2017, 07:22:47 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 14, 2017, 04:57:04 PM

Quote from: Flee on August 14, 2017, 04:46:56 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 14, 2017, 03:00:08 PM
Quote from: Snake on August 14, 2017, 02:53:06 PM
Is pat leave not a thing in the States?
Yeah but to have it be paid leave is nothing short of rare.
Seriously? Damn dude.
Yup. State says I can't get fired for wanting a bloc of absence after my kid's born but they also say I don't have to get payed for it. That's what vacation time is for.

This is why I need meninism.

Well unfortunately redpillers and some crazy incels have ruined men's right movement. Tumblr idiots have ruined feminism, by losing sight of it's goal.

But the goal has to become championed by a movement, and honestly men's right will not have much hope but maybe if we can frame this as a feminist argument it could be championed by females. Mainly using it to remove the negative side effect of hiring a woman due to paid maternity leave.

Basic idea is if men and women both have equal rights to paid maternity/paternity leave, any discrimination based on this reasoning will be gone.

It could help in snatching the feminist movement away from some of the more extreme wing and allow some sane policy to be pushed through.

SecondClass · August 14, 2017, 09:13:00 PM

fuck men

eggsalad · August 15, 2017, 12:29:46 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on August 14, 2017, 09:13:00 PM

fuck men

gladly

MyNameIsCharlie · August 15, 2017, 12:33:43 AM

Quote from: Risay117 on August 14, 2017, 07:22:47 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 14, 2017, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: Flee on August 14, 2017, 04:46:56 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 14, 2017, 03:00:08 PM
Quote from: Snake on August 14, 2017, 02:53:06 PM
Is pat leave not a thing in the States?
Yeah but to have it be paid leave is nothing short of rare.
Seriously? Damn dude.
Yup. State says I can't get fired for wanting a bloc of absence after my kid's born but they also say I don't have to get payed for it. That's what vacation time is for.

This is why I need meninism.
Well unfortunately redpillers and some crazy incels have ruined men's right movement. Tumblr idiots have ruined feminism, by losing sight of it's goal.

But the goal has to become championed by a movement, and honestly men's right will not have much hope but maybe if we can frame this as a feminist argument it could be championed by females. Mainly using it to remove the negative side effect of hiring a woman due to paid maternity leave.

Basic idea is if men and women both have equal rights to paid maternity/paternity leave, any discrimination based on this reasoning will be gone.

It could help in snatching the feminist movement away from some of the more extreme wing and allow some sane policy to be pushed through.

It would be hard for me to find a statement online that I agree with more