Why is Noelle in so much denial?

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Anything outside the films and clone wars & rebels tv shows aren't canon.

Anyway I heard the EU canon was shit anyway so I'm glad they got rid of it.

Some of it, not all.
Nope. Until it's used in media regarded as canon by Disney, the EU is non-canon.

Woops, I was referring to how some EU canon is good.
Something being good doesn't make it canon

I love how people complain that the new canon is  shit and for kids, even though they haven't watched it. Also, did they forget that this shit existed?



Rebels is Citizen Kane compared to that.


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Star Wars EU is canon :)
So if the EU is canon does that mean things like Lego Star Wars, Kinect Star Wars and even fan fictions are canon as well? After all the EU would be on the same level as fan fictions now.
Nope, those things are not part of the EU. LEGO Star Wars is exactly that, LEGO, Kinect Star Wars is a shitty game, and other games like TFU are non-canon. Fan-fictions are obviously not canon.

Yeah, TFU was overruled by the Onderon Arc in TCW and Star Wars Rebels.


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Star Wars EU is canon :)
So if the EU is canon does that mean things like Lego Star Wars, Kinect Star Wars and even fan fictions are canon as well? After all the EU would be on the same level as fan fictions now.
Nope, those things are not part of the EU. LEGO Star Wars is exactly that, LEGO, Kinect Star Wars is a shitty game, and other games like TFU are non-canon. Fan-fictions are obviously not canon.

Yeah, TFU was overruled by the Onderon Arc in TCW and Star Wars Rebels.
TCW and Rebels do not matter.

Yes. Because half of the shit in the EU matter anymore, now that they are not canon.



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Which sucks because the Darth Bane books were well written.
Those are still canon.

Darth Bane and his books are still canon, thankfully for his appearance in TCW.




The EU is still there, and most of the content creators recognize it as part of the canon because they grew up with it. The majority of content coming out has been respectful to the EU and brought stuff back into the official canon.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Anything outside the films and clone wars & rebels tv shows aren't canon.

Anyway I heard the EU canon was shit anyway so I'm glad they got rid of it.

Some of it, not all.
Nope. Until it's used in media regarded as canon by Disney, the EU is non-canon.

Woops, I was referring to how some EU canon is good.
Something being good doesn't make it canon

I love how people complain that the new canon is  shit and for kids, even though they haven't watched it. Also, did they forget that this shit existed?



Rebels is Citizen Kane compared to that.
After I acquired a level of taste and a knowledge of cinema, it no longer interested me and infuriated me as a Star Wars fan. It has plenty of kids show cliches, that's kinda evident with the Chosen One getting a Padawan and being placed in an uncomfortable role, but sure enough they grow a bond over time and everyone's happy. Also, the fucking Godzilla rip off episode. Also, that fucking midget/droid/RC episode. Also, replacing Durge with Cad Bane because Durge is too violent and scary.

Yes, and the Phantom Menace is the Holy fuckin' Grail compared to the Holiday Special. Your point?


 
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This thread is so fucking painful.... If you guys do not give a shit about Star Wars, then go away.

> claim we do not give a shit about Star Wars
> We are explaining why the hell Disney and Lucas had to separate the EU from the Movies/TCW/Rebels/Future Novels
> "NO THEY'RE ALL CANON DISNEY IS DUMB"

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This thread is so fucking painful.... If you guys do not give a shit about Star Wars, then go away.
Your denial is painful


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Star Wars EU is canon :)
So if the EU is canon does that mean things like Lego Star Wars, Kinect Star Wars and even fan fictions are canon as well? After all the EU would be on the same level as fan fictions now.
Nope, those things are not part of the EU. LEGO Star Wars is exactly that, LEGO, Kinect Star Wars is a shitty game, and other games like TFU are non-canon. Fan-fictions are obviously not canon.

Yeah, TFU was overruled by the Onderon Arc in TCW and Star Wars Rebels.
TCW and Rebels do not matter.

What don't you like about them by the way? They don't contradict the 2003 series. They have very good story telling and add a lot to the overall saga. Hell, IMO, The Clone Wars makes the prequels 100x better, and is what they should have been. The shows aren't "kiddy" and Rebels has basically no influence from Disney. I can understand the art style, but from a story telling standpoint, I don't see the issue.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Which sucks because the Darth Bane books were well written.
Those are still canon.

Darth Bane and his books are still canon, thankfully for his appearance in TCW.




The EU is still there, and most of the content creators recognize it as part of the canon because they grew up with it. The majority of content coming out has been respectful to the EU and brought stuff back into the official canon.
What about shitting all over my childhood by making Grievous a pussy that coughs all the time, instead of a terrifying badass that fights multiple Jedi Masters and Knights with ease? What about shitting on the Republic Commando series and making it so that the novels were never finished? What about trying to recreate the cool moments of the '03 series and failing, like with the Kit Fisto episode? What about giving the Chosen One who they were reluctant to make a Jedi Knight so hastily a padawan when that's clearly not a great idea? What about getting rid of Durge? What about making Dooku's head look similar to the '03 art style without realizing it doesn't work outside of that art style? What about making the Death Watch look good in comparison, because there's a group calling themselves Mandalorian and being pacifists? What about bring Darth Maul back to life? Do you catch my drift?


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This thread is so fucking painful.... If you guys do not give a shit about Star Wars, then go away.

> claim we do not give a shit about Star Wars
> We are explaining why the hell Disney and Lucas had to separate the EU from the Movies/TCW/Rebels/Future Novels
> "NO THEY'RE ALL CANON DISNEY IS DUMB"
Well obviously they are separated, but the stuff from the EU and the original and prequel trilogy are canon.

No. No it is not.

You know why? Because if Disney is going to pick up with the EU as plot, you are expecting people are going to go to the film understanding what the hell has happened in the 30 years since, including Chewbacca's death, the Han/Leia's kid storyline, all that fun shit.

Guess what? That doesn't work, because most movie goers are not going to have read dozens of books to fill them in, nor will they want to. Disney CANNOT pick up with the current story plots logistically, because if they did, this entire movie would be exposition to try and fill people in.

If they kept the EU as canon, and tried to tell their own story, it would contradict and there would be an uproar larger than Bungie with FOR vs. Halo: Reach.

So, whether or not YOU want to accept it Noelle, that's the truth. Disney owns Star Wars, it is now a property of theirs, and any stories for the future will be decided by them. If you want to continue your denial and simply posting "It's canon, it's canon, fuck Disney!", be our guest. But, you are factually wrong, and will continue to be wrong.


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This thread is so fucking painful.... If you guys do not give a shit about Star Wars, then go away.

> claim we do not give a shit about Star Wars
> We are explaining why the hell Disney and Lucas had to separate the EU from the Movies/TCW/Rebels/Future Novels
> "NO THEY'RE ALL CANON DISNEY IS DUMB"
Well obviously they are separated, but the stuff from the EU and the original and prequel trilogy are canon.

TCW, Rebels, and future movies and novels that go along with them are all non-canon.
>Being this much of an assblasted retard


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Stop being stupid with Noelle and try to counterpoint my posts, dammit.


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What about shitting all over my childhood by making Grievous a pussy that coughs all the time, instead of a terrifying badass that fights multiple Jedi Masters and Knights with ease?

Grievous could still do all those things, we just never saw him face those Jedi Masters in the Clone Wars. In their first encounter, he got the jump and them and pulled out all of his stunts he could. The Jedi weren't prepared. He was a constant challenge for Obi-Wan, one of the most powerful Jedi aside from Mace and Yoda. Kit Fisto had to retreat from his battle with Grievous, and the only real times Grevious was defeated was through sheer arrogance and luck, which fits his character. Hell, he killed Mother Talzin.

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What about shitting on the Republic Commando series and making it so that the novels were never finished?

They didn't? Karen Travis stopped writing because she got butthurt over what a small section of Mandalore looked like. They even acknowledge the existence of Delta Squad in TCW. The Republic Commando game is canon to an extent.

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What about trying to recreate the cool moments of the '03 series and failing, like with the Kit Fisto episode?

Which Kit Fisto episode? There's a couple spread throughout the series. As well, they never tried to replicate the '03 series, so I don't know where you're getting that idea from.

 
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What about giving the Chosen One who they were reluctant to make a Jedi Knight so hastily a padawan when that's clearly not a great idea?

The Clone Wars takes place after Anakin gets his scar on his right eye. The event above was way before that. If you want to see that, it's perfectly available to watch in the '03 series.

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What about getting rid of Durge?

Durge died in the '03 series. He was alive in the comics, which were said to be non canon by Lucas before The Clone Wars came out.


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What about making Dooku's head look similar to the '03 art style without realizing it doesn't work outside of that art style?

If you don't like the visuals, then okay. Not really a valid point for story telling issues, but whatever.

 
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What about making the Death Watch look good in comparison, because there's a group calling themselves Mandalorian and being pacifists?

How is portraying a group of old fashion Mandalorians as terrorists who attack innocent citizens make them look "good". Just because you yourself might be rooting for them doesn't make them the story's protagonist.

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What about bring Darth Maul back to life?

The fans have been wanting that since TPM. It added a giant story element and character for Obi-wan as well. You've complained in other posts they don't service the fans, then when they do you complain? It sounds like you're butthurt over them not bending over backwards to service what you want. Guess what? You're not a special snowflake.


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It's not up to the audience to decide what is canon and what isn't. If that were the case I'd consider the Metroid Prime series canon.


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This thread is so fucking painful.... If you guys do not give a shit about Star Wars, then go away.
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It's not up to the audience to decide what is canon and what isn't. If that were the case I'd consider the Metroid Prime series canon.
Of course it is not, but Disney cannot erase thirty years of established canon.

They didn't, it's still there and put into a "Legends" category. They can use anything from it any time they want.


 
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It's not up to the audience to decide what is canon and what isn't. If that were the case I'd consider the Metroid Prime series canon.
Of course it is not,
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but Disney cannot erase thirty years of established canon.
Dammit!