Quote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:43:00 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:36:16 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:29:13 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:26:15 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.You quoted my answer to what you just said. Congratulations.Umm, no I didn't.You said that waiting until marriage isn't ridiculous, and I gave factual reasons as to why it is ridiculous.You didn't read the OP very well. I didn't say what you think I said. And yes, many marriages end because of sexual dissatisfaction. That is the couples fault an no on else. They didn't take the initiative to make their sex life with their partner any better. That's on them, and they chose to divorce rather than communicate with their partner. And it is likely that someone wouldn't be too experience in bed because of them being a virgin. I do not see this as a bad thing. Have you never considered the possibility of someone practicing in bed with their partner after marriage and learning each other kinks rather than doing the same thing before marriage on other people? It's a much more intimate experience. I'd rather marry someone who sucked in bed so we could both learn how the other works than marry someone who's amazing in bed but practiced on countless other guys to acquire that abilityThat's how sex becomes boring.You only know what they like because you've never slept with anyone else. Doing the same thing becomes boring in almost everything you do.Also, no sexual compatibility between two people isn't something you can change.If you only have sex after marriage and find out you're not sexually compatible, then your sex life will be terrible and your marriage will probably end in divorce.Can you link me to something that says sexual compatibility isn't something that you can change. It would very much help. I never said anything about doing the same thing. Learning what your partner likes is only a first step. There are all sorts of things that you can try afterwards. The excitement in sex varies from couple to couple. Doing the same thing may or may not get boring depending on the people. There is no way to say with any credibility.
Quote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:36:16 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:29:13 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:26:15 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.You quoted my answer to what you just said. Congratulations.Umm, no I didn't.You said that waiting until marriage isn't ridiculous, and I gave factual reasons as to why it is ridiculous.You didn't read the OP very well. I didn't say what you think I said. And yes, many marriages end because of sexual dissatisfaction. That is the couples fault an no on else. They didn't take the initiative to make their sex life with their partner any better. That's on them, and they chose to divorce rather than communicate with their partner. And it is likely that someone wouldn't be too experience in bed because of them being a virgin. I do not see this as a bad thing. Have you never considered the possibility of someone practicing in bed with their partner after marriage and learning each other kinks rather than doing the same thing before marriage on other people? It's a much more intimate experience. I'd rather marry someone who sucked in bed so we could both learn how the other works than marry someone who's amazing in bed but practiced on countless other guys to acquire that abilityThat's how sex becomes boring.You only know what they like because you've never slept with anyone else. Doing the same thing becomes boring in almost everything you do.Also, no sexual compatibility between two people isn't something you can change.If you only have sex after marriage and find out you're not sexually compatible, then your sex life will be terrible and your marriage will probably end in divorce.
Quote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:29:13 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:26:15 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.You quoted my answer to what you just said. Congratulations.Umm, no I didn't.You said that waiting until marriage isn't ridiculous, and I gave factual reasons as to why it is ridiculous.You didn't read the OP very well. I didn't say what you think I said. And yes, many marriages end because of sexual dissatisfaction. That is the couples fault an no on else. They didn't take the initiative to make their sex life with their partner any better. That's on them, and they chose to divorce rather than communicate with their partner. And it is likely that someone wouldn't be too experience in bed because of them being a virgin. I do not see this as a bad thing. Have you never considered the possibility of someone practicing in bed with their partner after marriage and learning each other kinks rather than doing the same thing before marriage on other people? It's a much more intimate experience. I'd rather marry someone who sucked in bed so we could both learn how the other works than marry someone who's amazing in bed but practiced on countless other guys to acquire that ability
Quote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:26:15 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.You quoted my answer to what you just said. Congratulations.Umm, no I didn't.You said that waiting until marriage isn't ridiculous, and I gave factual reasons as to why it is ridiculous.
Quote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.You quoted my answer to what you just said. Congratulations.
Quote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.
Also, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.
Quote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:44:15 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.Quote>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.None of these things are things that cannot be fixed after marriage. It all comes down to initiative that a couple has to work out their sexual relationship.I would like you to ask an asexual if they think they can change.People do not change like that. It doesn't happen. To think it does is stupid and naive.
Quote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.Quote>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.None of these things are things that cannot be fixed after marriage. It all comes down to initiative that a couple has to work out their sexual relationship.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.
Quote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".
Quote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.
>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.
Quote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:47:49 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:43:00 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:36:16 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:29:13 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:26:15 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.You quoted my answer to what you just said. Congratulations.Umm, no I didn't.You said that waiting until marriage isn't ridiculous, and I gave factual reasons as to why it is ridiculous.You didn't read the OP very well. I didn't say what you think I said. And yes, many marriages end because of sexual dissatisfaction. That is the couples fault an no on else. They didn't take the initiative to make their sex life with their partner any better. That's on them, and they chose to divorce rather than communicate with their partner. And it is likely that someone wouldn't be too experience in bed because of them being a virgin. I do not see this as a bad thing. Have you never considered the possibility of someone practicing in bed with their partner after marriage and learning each other kinks rather than doing the same thing before marriage on other people? It's a much more intimate experience. I'd rather marry someone who sucked in bed so we could both learn how the other works than marry someone who's amazing in bed but practiced on countless other guys to acquire that abilityThat's how sex becomes boring.You only know what they like because you've never slept with anyone else. Doing the same thing becomes boring in almost everything you do.Also, no sexual compatibility between two people isn't something you can change.If you only have sex after marriage and find out you're not sexually compatible, then your sex life will be terrible and your marriage will probably end in divorce.Can you link me to something that says sexual compatibility isn't something that you can change. It would very much help. I never said anything about doing the same thing. Learning what your partner likes is only a first step. There are all sorts of things that you can try afterwards. The excitement in sex varies from couple to couple. Doing the same thing may or may not get boring depending on the people. There is no way to say with any credibility.Refer to Jim's post.If someone doesn't enjoy sex as much as their partner, that's something you can't change.You can't force them to like sex more or less and how often they want it.You can't change people's fetishes and their acceptance of other people's fetishes.You can't change someone's sexual attraction towards someone.You're just kicking yourself in the teeth if you wait until marriage, which is why waiting is a ridiculous concept.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:51:12 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.If you also get no enjoyment from sex with your partner and do it as a "chore" you will grow resentment towards the other person or vice versa.Most of what you mentioned can easily be worked out after marriage.">sexual attraction towards each other"Well that shouldn't be an issue, sexual attraction is what draws people towards one another in the first place. This would only be an issue in an arranged marriage.">willingness to satisfy each other sexually"Again, see above. If people are attracted to one another, which they typically are given that they're married, they're probably willing to do this.1. No it can't2. And yet you get plenty of people who like to pretend sexual attraction doesn't matter at all.3. That is just not true and you're an idiot.
Quote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.If you also get no enjoyment from sex with your partner and do it as a "chore" you will grow resentment towards the other person or vice versa.Most of what you mentioned can easily be worked out after marriage.">sexual attraction towards each other"Well that shouldn't be an issue, sexual attraction is what draws people towards one another in the first place. This would only be an issue in an arranged marriage.">willingness to satisfy each other sexually"Again, see above. If people are attracted to one another, which they typically are given that they're married, they're probably willing to do this.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.If you also get no enjoyment from sex with your partner and do it as a "chore" you will grow resentment towards the other person or vice versa.
Quote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:55:37 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:51:01 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:44:15 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.Quote>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.None of these things are things that cannot be fixed after marriage. It all comes down to initiative that a couple has to work out their sexual relationship.I would like you to ask an asexual if they think they can change.People do not change like that. It doesn't happen. To think it does is stupid and naive.I said fix, not change. That suggests other ways to solve the problem. You can work your way around sexual incompatibility. It is a stumbling block, but not something that cannot be solved. Like I said, It all depends on the initiative of the couple.Please, enlighten me with your vast wisdom
Quote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:51:01 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:44:15 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.Quote>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.None of these things are things that cannot be fixed after marriage. It all comes down to initiative that a couple has to work out their sexual relationship.I would like you to ask an asexual if they think they can change.People do not change like that. It doesn't happen. To think it does is stupid and naive.I said fix, not change. That suggests other ways to solve the problem. You can work your way around sexual incompatibility. It is a stumbling block, but not something that cannot be solved. Like I said, It all depends on the initiative of the couple.
This thread is awesome.
Quote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 06:58:55 PMThis thread is awesome.Yes. Yes it is. The only thing that kind of spoils it is people becoming more and more hostile as the discussion goes on. The insults and condescending attitudes only lessen my respect for other people.
Quote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:59:29 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:57:15 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:55:37 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:51:01 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:44:15 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.Quote>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.None of these things are things that cannot be fixed after marriage. It all comes down to initiative that a couple has to work out their sexual relationship.I would like you to ask an asexual if they think they can change.People do not change like that. It doesn't happen. To think it does is stupid and naive.I said fix, not change. That suggests other ways to solve the problem. You can work your way around sexual incompatibility. It is a stumbling block, but not something that cannot be solved. Like I said, It all depends on the initiative of the couple.Please, enlighten me with your vast wisdomYou don't have to come off as an arrogant prick. You're making this discussion unpleasant. If you would please enlighten me more on why you disagree without insults or asshatery, this would be a much more educational experience for both sides.I said you cannot change sexual compatibility. You said you can "fix" it and you did not say how. I want you to tell me how you can "fix" sexual incompatibility.
Quote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:57:15 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:55:37 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:51:01 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:44:15 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.Quote>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.None of these things are things that cannot be fixed after marriage. It all comes down to initiative that a couple has to work out their sexual relationship.I would like you to ask an asexual if they think they can change.People do not change like that. It doesn't happen. To think it does is stupid and naive.I said fix, not change. That suggests other ways to solve the problem. You can work your way around sexual incompatibility. It is a stumbling block, but not something that cannot be solved. Like I said, It all depends on the initiative of the couple.Please, enlighten me with your vast wisdomYou don't have to come off as an arrogant prick. You're making this discussion unpleasant. If you would please enlighten me more on why you disagree without insults or asshatery, this would be a much more educational experience for both sides.
Quote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:02:06 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 06:58:55 PMThis thread is awesome.Yes. Yes it is. The only thing that kind of spoils it is people becoming more and more hostile as the discussion goes on. The insults and condescending attitudes only lessen my respect for other people.That's because you're wrong.Some people just aren't sexually compatible. Yeah, you can work on parts of it, but that work is going to change one or both of you. Sometimes compromise isn't possible.That's why you work these things out before marriage.
Quote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 07:06:47 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:02:06 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 06:58:55 PMThis thread is awesome.Yes. Yes it is. The only thing that kind of spoils it is people becoming more and more hostile as the discussion goes on. The insults and condescending attitudes only lessen my respect for other people.That's because you're wrong.Some people just aren't sexually compatible. Yeah, you can work on parts of it, but that work is going to change one or both of you. Sometimes compromise isn't possible.That's why you work these things out before marriage.Where are you getting this information? Experience or just your idea of how it would play out? I would like to know.
Quote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:08:53 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 07:06:47 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:02:06 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 06:58:55 PMThis thread is awesome.Yes. Yes it is. The only thing that kind of spoils it is people becoming more and more hostile as the discussion goes on. The insults and condescending attitudes only lessen my respect for other people.That's because you're wrong.Some people just aren't sexually compatible. Yeah, you can work on parts of it, but that work is going to change one or both of you. Sometimes compromise isn't possible.That's why you work these things out before marriage.Where are you getting this information? Experience or just your idea of how it would play out? I would like to know.Experience.There are women I have dated where we just didn't click sexually. A balance of emotional and sexual elements is important to having a healthy, well-rounded relationship. Too much of one and not enough of the other doesn't work.
Quote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 07:10:35 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:08:53 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 07:06:47 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:02:06 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 06:58:55 PMThis thread is awesome.Yes. Yes it is. The only thing that kind of spoils it is people becoming more and more hostile as the discussion goes on. The insults and condescending attitudes only lessen my respect for other people.That's because you're wrong.Some people just aren't sexually compatible. Yeah, you can work on parts of it, but that work is going to change one or both of you. Sometimes compromise isn't possible.That's why you work these things out before marriage.Where are you getting this information? Experience or just your idea of how it would play out? I would like to know.Experience.There are women I have dated where we just didn't click sexually. A balance of emotional and sexual elements is important to having a healthy, well-rounded relationship. Too much of one and not enough of the other doesn't work.I know some people aren't sexually compatible, but I've already said how I think people can get over than issue. Other than that, everything else you said is opinion based off of past experience and I can say nothing to change that. I don't know what happened to you, and that's where that line ends. The thing is, I believe there is always such a thing as compromise. There is always something people can do. Many times it may not be conventional at all and sometimes even mad freaky, but I believe there is always a solution.
Quote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:07:21 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 07:03:43 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:59:29 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:57:15 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:55:37 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:51:01 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:44:15 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.Quote>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.None of these things are things that cannot be fixed after marriage. It all comes down to initiative that a couple has to work out their sexual relationship.I would like you to ask an asexual if they think they can change.People do not change like that. It doesn't happen. To think it does is stupid and naive.I said fix, not change. That suggests other ways to solve the problem. You can work your way around sexual incompatibility. It is a stumbling block, but not something that cannot be solved. Like I said, It all depends on the initiative of the couple.Please, enlighten me with your vast wisdomYou don't have to come off as an arrogant prick. You're making this discussion unpleasant. If you would please enlighten me more on why you disagree without insults or asshatery, this would be a much more educational experience for both sides.I said you cannot change sexual compatibility. You said you can "fix" it and you did not say how. I want you to tell me how you can "fix" sexual incompatibility.You can work around it. It is not such a far fetched concept. I keep saying it all comes down to the communication and initiative of the couple but it really doesn't seem like you're reading what I'm saying. Yes, it's a big problem with a lot of relationships, but it can be fixed through communication between partners and so on and so forth. This falls into what I've been saying about people getting to know their spouses and themselves after their marriage rather than before.In some cases yes, sexual frustrations can be worked out through communication. Often, actually. But what I am talking about is INCOMPATIBILITY. If your wife refuses to go down on you even though you do it for her when she asks, that is uncool and should be talked about. Sometimes it can be solved. I am not denying that, but when someone simply does not enjoy sex as much as you do, you are incompatible and it cannot be fixed or worked around because they will always see it as a chore and not enjoyable.
Quote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 07:03:43 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:59:29 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:57:15 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:55:37 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:51:01 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:44:15 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.Quote>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.None of these things are things that cannot be fixed after marriage. It all comes down to initiative that a couple has to work out their sexual relationship.I would like you to ask an asexual if they think they can change.People do not change like that. It doesn't happen. To think it does is stupid and naive.I said fix, not change. That suggests other ways to solve the problem. You can work your way around sexual incompatibility. It is a stumbling block, but not something that cannot be solved. Like I said, It all depends on the initiative of the couple.Please, enlighten me with your vast wisdomYou don't have to come off as an arrogant prick. You're making this discussion unpleasant. If you would please enlighten me more on why you disagree without insults or asshatery, this would be a much more educational experience for both sides.I said you cannot change sexual compatibility. You said you can "fix" it and you did not say how. I want you to tell me how you can "fix" sexual incompatibility.You can work around it. It is not such a far fetched concept. I keep saying it all comes down to the communication and initiative of the couple but it really doesn't seem like you're reading what I'm saying. Yes, it's a big problem with a lot of relationships, but it can be fixed through communication between partners and so on and so forth. This falls into what I've been saying about people getting to know their spouses and themselves after their marriage rather than before.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:58:07 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:52:55 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:51:12 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.If you also get no enjoyment from sex with your partner and do it as a "chore" you will grow resentment towards the other person or vice versa.Most of what you mentioned can easily be worked out after marriage.">sexual attraction towards each other"Well that shouldn't be an issue, sexual attraction is what draws people towards one another in the first place. This would only be an issue in an arranged marriage.">willingness to satisfy each other sexually"Again, see above. If people are attracted to one another, which they typically are given that they're married, they're probably willing to do this.1. No it can't2. And yet you get plenty of people who like to pretend sexual attraction doesn't matter at all.3. That is just not true and you're an idiot.1. "Hey, I'm not in the mood at the moment." "OK."2. Those people are dumb, and I'm not stating that, they are.3. I'm pretty sure two people sexually attracted to one another are willing to have sex. Also, way to provide an intelligent response on this one.1. "I'm not in the mood" not the same as "I do no enjoy sex as much as you do"2. Of course they are.3. Sure, but some people do not enjoy sex as much as others and will often think of it as a chore.
Quote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:52:55 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:51:12 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.If you also get no enjoyment from sex with your partner and do it as a "chore" you will grow resentment towards the other person or vice versa.Most of what you mentioned can easily be worked out after marriage.">sexual attraction towards each other"Well that shouldn't be an issue, sexual attraction is what draws people towards one another in the first place. This would only be an issue in an arranged marriage.">willingness to satisfy each other sexually"Again, see above. If people are attracted to one another, which they typically are given that they're married, they're probably willing to do this.1. No it can't2. And yet you get plenty of people who like to pretend sexual attraction doesn't matter at all.3. That is just not true and you're an idiot.1. "Hey, I'm not in the mood at the moment." "OK."2. Those people are dumb, and I'm not stating that, they are.3. I'm pretty sure two people sexually attracted to one another are willing to have sex. Also, way to provide an intelligent response on this one.
Quote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:15:56 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 07:10:35 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:08:53 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 07:06:47 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:02:06 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 06:58:55 PMThis thread is awesome.Yes. Yes it is. The only thing that kind of spoils it is people becoming more and more hostile as the discussion goes on. The insults and condescending attitudes only lessen my respect for other people.That's because you're wrong.Some people just aren't sexually compatible. Yeah, you can work on parts of it, but that work is going to change one or both of you. Sometimes compromise isn't possible.That's why you work these things out before marriage.Where are you getting this information? Experience or just your idea of how it would play out? I would like to know.Experience.There are women I have dated where we just didn't click sexually. A balance of emotional and sexual elements is important to having a healthy, well-rounded relationship. Too much of one and not enough of the other doesn't work.I know some people aren't sexually compatible, but I've already said how I think people can get over than issue. Other than that, everything else you said is opinion based off of past experience and I can say nothing to change that. I don't know what happened to you, and that's where that line ends. The thing is, I believe there is always such a thing as compromise. There is always something people can do. Many times it may not be conventional at all and sometimes even mad freaky, but I believe there is always a solution.And as I said, there's some things you just can't compromise on. If Partner A has a high libido and wants to have sex every day, and Partner B only wants to have sex every month or so, a compromise will make both uncomfortable and unhappy, which is a lose-lose.
Quote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 07:18:43 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:15:56 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 07:10:35 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:08:53 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 07:06:47 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:02:06 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 06:58:55 PMThis thread is awesome.Yes. Yes it is. The only thing that kind of spoils it is people becoming more and more hostile as the discussion goes on. The insults and condescending attitudes only lessen my respect for other people.That's because you're wrong.Some people just aren't sexually compatible. Yeah, you can work on parts of it, but that work is going to change one or both of you. Sometimes compromise isn't possible.That's why you work these things out before marriage.Where are you getting this information? Experience or just your idea of how it would play out? I would like to know.Experience.There are women I have dated where we just didn't click sexually. A balance of emotional and sexual elements is important to having a healthy, well-rounded relationship. Too much of one and not enough of the other doesn't work.I know some people aren't sexually compatible, but I've already said how I think people can get over than issue. Other than that, everything else you said is opinion based off of past experience and I can say nothing to change that. I don't know what happened to you, and that's where that line ends. The thing is, I believe there is always such a thing as compromise. There is always something people can do. Many times it may not be conventional at all and sometimes even mad freaky, but I believe there is always a solution.And as I said, there's some things you just can't compromise on. If Partner A has a high libido and wants to have sex every day, and Partner B only wants to have sex every month or so, a compromise will make both uncomfortable and unhappy, which is a lose-lose.That depends on what you consider a compromise.
Quote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:20:56 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 07:17:27 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:07:21 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 07:03:43 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:59:29 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:57:15 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:55:37 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:51:01 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:44:15 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.Quote>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.None of these things are things that cannot be fixed after marriage. It all comes down to initiative that a couple has to work out their sexual relationship.I would like you to ask an asexual if they think they can change.People do not change like that. It doesn't happen. To think it does is stupid and naive.I said fix, not change. That suggests other ways to solve the problem. You can work your way around sexual incompatibility. It is a stumbling block, but not something that cannot be solved. Like I said, It all depends on the initiative of the couple.Please, enlighten me with your vast wisdomYou don't have to come off as an arrogant prick. You're making this discussion unpleasant. If you would please enlighten me more on why you disagree without insults or asshatery, this would be a much more educational experience for both sides.I said you cannot change sexual compatibility. You said you can "fix" it and you did not say how. I want you to tell me how you can "fix" sexual incompatibility.You can work around it. It is not such a far fetched concept. I keep saying it all comes down to the communication and initiative of the couple but it really doesn't seem like you're reading what I'm saying. Yes, it's a big problem with a lot of relationships, but it can be fixed through communication between partners and so on and so forth. This falls into what I've been saying about people getting to know their spouses and themselves after their marriage rather than before.In some cases yes, sexual frustrations can be worked out through communication. Often, actually. But what I am talking about is INCOMPATIBILITY. If your wife refuses to go down on you even though you do it for her when she asks, that is uncool and should be talked about. Sometimes it can be solved. I am not denying that, but when someone simply does not enjoy sex as much as you do, you are incompatible and it cannot be fixed or worked around because they will always see it as a chore and not enjoyable.What I have been referring to this whole time is sexual incompatibility. What is your point?Sexual incompatibility is a fixed thing. It cannot be changed, worked around or ignored.End of story.
Quote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 07:17:27 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:07:21 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 07:03:43 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:59:29 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:57:15 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:55:37 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:51:01 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:44:15 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.Quote>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.None of these things are things that cannot be fixed after marriage. It all comes down to initiative that a couple has to work out their sexual relationship.I would like you to ask an asexual if they think they can change.People do not change like that. It doesn't happen. To think it does is stupid and naive.I said fix, not change. That suggests other ways to solve the problem. You can work your way around sexual incompatibility. It is a stumbling block, but not something that cannot be solved. Like I said, It all depends on the initiative of the couple.Please, enlighten me with your vast wisdomYou don't have to come off as an arrogant prick. You're making this discussion unpleasant. If you would please enlighten me more on why you disagree without insults or asshatery, this would be a much more educational experience for both sides.I said you cannot change sexual compatibility. You said you can "fix" it and you did not say how. I want you to tell me how you can "fix" sexual incompatibility.You can work around it. It is not such a far fetched concept. I keep saying it all comes down to the communication and initiative of the couple but it really doesn't seem like you're reading what I'm saying. Yes, it's a big problem with a lot of relationships, but it can be fixed through communication between partners and so on and so forth. This falls into what I've been saying about people getting to know their spouses and themselves after their marriage rather than before.In some cases yes, sexual frustrations can be worked out through communication. Often, actually. But what I am talking about is INCOMPATIBILITY. If your wife refuses to go down on you even though you do it for her when she asks, that is uncool and should be talked about. Sometimes it can be solved. I am not denying that, but when someone simply does not enjoy sex as much as you do, you are incompatible and it cannot be fixed or worked around because they will always see it as a chore and not enjoyable.What I have been referring to this whole time is sexual incompatibility. What is your point?
Quote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:23:08 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 07:18:43 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:15:56 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 07:10:35 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:08:53 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 07:06:47 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:02:06 PMQuote from: Mad Max on February 14, 2015, 06:58:55 PMThis thread is awesome.Yes. Yes it is. The only thing that kind of spoils it is people becoming more and more hostile as the discussion goes on. The insults and condescending attitudes only lessen my respect for other people.That's because you're wrong.Some people just aren't sexually compatible. Yeah, you can work on parts of it, but that work is going to change one or both of you. Sometimes compromise isn't possible.That's why you work these things out before marriage.Where are you getting this information? Experience or just your idea of how it would play out? I would like to know.Experience.There are women I have dated where we just didn't click sexually. A balance of emotional and sexual elements is important to having a healthy, well-rounded relationship. Too much of one and not enough of the other doesn't work.I know some people aren't sexually compatible, but I've already said how I think people can get over than issue. Other than that, everything else you said is opinion based off of past experience and I can say nothing to change that. I don't know what happened to you, and that's where that line ends. The thing is, I believe there is always such a thing as compromise. There is always something people can do. Many times it may not be conventional at all and sometimes even mad freaky, but I believe there is always a solution.And as I said, there's some things you just can't compromise on. If Partner A has a high libido and wants to have sex every day, and Partner B only wants to have sex every month or so, a compromise will make both uncomfortable and unhappy, which is a lose-lose.That depends on what you consider a compromise. Do you understand what compromising is? It's meeting someone halfway on something. In this situation, compromising would be having sex maybe once a week. That's less often than Partner A is comfortable with, and more often than Partner B is comfortable with, leaving nobody satisfied.
Quote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:27:43 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 07:21:54 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:20:56 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 07:17:27 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:07:21 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 07:03:43 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:59:29 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:57:15 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:55:37 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:51:01 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:44:15 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.Quote>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.None of these things are things that cannot be fixed after marriage. It all comes down to initiative that a couple has to work out their sexual relationship.I would like you to ask an asexual if they think they can change.People do not change like that. It doesn't happen. To think it does is stupid and naive.I said fix, not change. That suggests other ways to solve the problem. You can work your way around sexual incompatibility. It is a stumbling block, but not something that cannot be solved. Like I said, It all depends on the initiative of the couple.Please, enlighten me with your vast wisdomYou don't have to come off as an arrogant prick. You're making this discussion unpleasant. If you would please enlighten me more on why you disagree without insults or asshatery, this would be a much more educational experience for both sides.I said you cannot change sexual compatibility. You said you can "fix" it and you did not say how. I want you to tell me how you can "fix" sexual incompatibility.You can work around it. It is not such a far fetched concept. I keep saying it all comes down to the communication and initiative of the couple but it really doesn't seem like you're reading what I'm saying. Yes, it's a big problem with a lot of relationships, but it can be fixed through communication between partners and so on and so forth. This falls into what I've been saying about people getting to know their spouses and themselves after their marriage rather than before.In some cases yes, sexual frustrations can be worked out through communication. Often, actually. But what I am talking about is INCOMPATIBILITY. If your wife refuses to go down on you even though you do it for her when she asks, that is uncool and should be talked about. Sometimes it can be solved. I am not denying that, but when someone simply does not enjoy sex as much as you do, you are incompatible and it cannot be fixed or worked around because they will always see it as a chore and not enjoyable.What I have been referring to this whole time is sexual incompatibility. What is your point?Sexual incompatibility is a fixed thing. It cannot be changed, worked around or ignored.End of story.That's your opinion. I think it's an incorrect opinion as many people have worked around, and may even ignored sexual incompatibility. If you don't believe me, you can just look it up. Sexual incompatibility is a very common and major issue in marriage, but I think it is not as you describe. I don't know if you are speaking from personal experience or just assumptions, but either way, what I have read up on says otherwise. I'm not even sure you entirely understand what sexual incompatibility is at this point, but okay. You've shown your stance on the subject.Sexual incompatibility is exactly what I described and I'm correct. You are wrong. This isn't just my opinion.
Quote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 07:21:54 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:20:56 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 07:17:27 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 07:07:21 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 07:03:43 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:59:29 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:57:15 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:55:37 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:51:01 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 06:44:15 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:40:03 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:36:27 PMQuote from: Jimpressions on February 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 14, 2015, 06:26:29 PMQuote from: BritishLemön on February 14, 2015, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Chakas on February 14, 2015, 03:07:27 AMAlso, why do people think that waiting until marriage is ridiculous? Don't you want to be able to say that you were the only one who has fucked your spouse and that no else has ever touched them, and vice versa? Isn't that something special? Something to be proud of? And don't give me all that, "Well it's boring. I need some variety." bullshit. If your sex life with your spouse is boring well than that's your fault.Your sex life would be boring because you'd suck due to no experience.A lot of marriages end because they're either sexually incompatible or just flat out suck dick in bed, y'know.So yes, reserving yourself until you're married is ridiculous.Marrying or divorcing someone based on sexual performance is ridiculous.Sexual compatibility is extremely important Define "sexual compatibility".>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.These are things you have to find out before marriage. Sex is an important part of a relationship. That doesn't mean you have to have sex all the time. Some people don't like sex as much as others, that's fine, but if you have a low libido or NO libido and you're with someone who loves sex and wants it frequently, you WILL have problems.Quote>compatible libidos>willingness to satisfy each other sexually>sexual attraction towards each other>accepting of fetishes, kinks, boundaries, etc.None of these things are things that cannot be fixed after marriage. It all comes down to initiative that a couple has to work out their sexual relationship.I would like you to ask an asexual if they think they can change.People do not change like that. It doesn't happen. To think it does is stupid and naive.I said fix, not change. That suggests other ways to solve the problem. You can work your way around sexual incompatibility. It is a stumbling block, but not something that cannot be solved. Like I said, It all depends on the initiative of the couple.Please, enlighten me with your vast wisdomYou don't have to come off as an arrogant prick. You're making this discussion unpleasant. If you would please enlighten me more on why you disagree without insults or asshatery, this would be a much more educational experience for both sides.I said you cannot change sexual compatibility. You said you can "fix" it and you did not say how. I want you to tell me how you can "fix" sexual incompatibility.You can work around it. It is not such a far fetched concept. I keep saying it all comes down to the communication and initiative of the couple but it really doesn't seem like you're reading what I'm saying. Yes, it's a big problem with a lot of relationships, but it can be fixed through communication between partners and so on and so forth. This falls into what I've been saying about people getting to know their spouses and themselves after their marriage rather than before.In some cases yes, sexual frustrations can be worked out through communication. Often, actually. But what I am talking about is INCOMPATIBILITY. If your wife refuses to go down on you even though you do it for her when she asks, that is uncool and should be talked about. Sometimes it can be solved. I am not denying that, but when someone simply does not enjoy sex as much as you do, you are incompatible and it cannot be fixed or worked around because they will always see it as a chore and not enjoyable.What I have been referring to this whole time is sexual incompatibility. What is your point?Sexual incompatibility is a fixed thing. It cannot be changed, worked around or ignored.End of story.That's your opinion. I think it's an incorrect opinion as many people have worked around, and may even ignored sexual incompatibility. If you don't believe me, you can just look it up. Sexual incompatibility is a very common and major issue in marriage, but I think it is not as you describe. I don't know if you are speaking from personal experience or just assumptions, but either way, what I have read up on says otherwise. I'm not even sure you entirely understand what sexual incompatibility is at this point, but okay. You've shown your stance on the subject.
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