Why don't you lift weights?

 
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wait lol you seriously think maintaining physical endurance and muscle training isnt part of being healthy?

No, obviously not. To the point where you lift to increase your muscle mass (which is what lifting is PRIMARILY used for) doesn't matter.

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ill take "obvious facts" for $500, alex. muscle training may take a lower priority than proper nutrition, but that doesnt mean it isnt deeply involved with your health. besides, many resistance/endurance training methods also improve your cardiovascular health.

If you're lifting with the intention of improving muscle mass, you're not doing it right to the point where health is your priority, like running or eating well.

Calm the fuck down in both our conversations, bro.


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wait lol you seriously think maintaining physical endurance and muscle training isnt part of being healthy?

No, obviously not. To the point where you lift to increase your muscle mass (which is what lifting is PRIMARILY used for) doesn't matter.

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ill take "obvious facts" for $500, alex. muscle training may take a lower priority than proper nutrition, but that doesnt mean it isnt deeply involved with your health. besides, many resistance/endurance training methods also improve your cardiovascular health.

If you're lifting with the intention of improving muscle mass, you're not doing it right to the point where health is your priority, like running or eating well.

Calm the fuck down in both our conversations, bro.
i think you have entirely missed the point here. youre focusing so much on the mental aspect of why people lift weights that youre willfully ignoring all the positive aspects of weight training. either that or you legit just have no clue what youre going on about. its clear that youre a bit flustered so my advice would be for you to go do some substantial research about health+fitness and maybe things will be somewhat less distressing to you.

and im not your bro, guy


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It all comes down to being happy.

I felt lazy and had a gut - which made me feel unhappy.
Ever since I started running and regularly exercising I feel much better about myself and hence actually happy. So if you are happy the way you are - awesome! If you are not happy about your body, get out there and change it.


 
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i think you have entirely missed the point here. youre focusing so much on the mental aspect of why people lift weights that youre willfully ignoring all the positive aspects of weight training.

No, I'm not. I'm saying the positive aspects of weight training don't matter -- they're not worth it.

And as long as we're being honest, the vast majority of "weight lifters" do not do it for health benefits. I should know, I used to be one.

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its clear that youre a bit flustered

LOL

Nah, you just seem to have some personal vendetta against me. Either that or you're just naturally a cunt to people who've done nothing to you.


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Because I don't need to lift mass to be successful in life.


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i think you have entirely missed the point here. youre focusing so much on the mental aspect of why people lift weights that youre willfully ignoring all the positive aspects of weight training.

No, I'm not. I'm saying the positive aspects of weight training don't matter -- they're not worth it.

And as long as we're being honest, the vast majority of "weight lifters" do not do it for health benefits. I should know, I used to be one.

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its clear that youre a bit flustered

LOL

Nah, you just seem to have some personal vendetta against me. Either that or you're just naturally a cunt to people who've done nothing to you.

ill just drop off some information, in that case. weight training is very "worth it." im not even sure what thats supposed to imply- do you think everyone who lifts weights gets hurt or something?
http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/fitness/in-depth/strength-training/art-20046670
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Resistance_training_the_health_benefits?open


And, y'know, I'm really not sure where you got the idea that I'm being hostile towards you. You're the one using words like cunt and asking others to calm down in the middle of a normal conversation. Do you think I followed you to this thread specifically to harass you or something? I replied to you here because you've been saying some genuinely disturbing, incorrect things about health+fitness. We have a young, impressionable userbase. How are they supposed to know the difference between fact and unsubstantiated bullshit if people don't call the bullshit out?


 
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ill just drop off some information, in that case.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/fitness/in-depth/strength-training/art-20046670
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Resistance_training_the_health_benefits?open

Except I and the OP don't care about health benefits, and if you were really concerned with being healthy, "lifting" would not be the most important thing on your list. He only lifts because he wants to look good, and it being "healthy" is a bonus. If it wasn't healthy to work out, people would still do it.

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I replied to you here because you've been saying some genuinely disturbing, incorrect things about health+fitness.

LOL, where.

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We have a young, impressionable userbase. How are they supposed to know the difference between fact and unsubstantiated bullshit if people don't call the bullshit out?

You've posted nothing to call out bullshit. Most people only work out to look good; to improve how they look. They're insecure -- I'm not. I answered the question.

You've posted some bullshit, though. How, for some reason, we can't say "working out is stupid" because we... don't work out? Or we say that to cover up for being lazy? Brilliant generalisation, mate.


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i will once i go to university so i lift with frands


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I lift for myself. I lift so that I can look good naked, and I don't intend to ever get into sexy times.

If you lift to look good, without lifting, you don't look good. You are not okay with your base level of attractiveness. Which makes you insecure.
I'm insecure about not having the body of a greek god, because I don't have the body of a greek god.

To look good? Of course, my body wans't born hot, it needs muscles in the right place to look hot.


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Except I and the OP don't care about health benefits, and if you were really concerned with being healthy, "lifting" would not be the most important thing on your list. He only lifts because he wants to look good, and it being "healthy" is a bonus. If it wasn't healthy to work out, people would still do it.
That's not what this is about. You're entitled to treating your own body poorly. That's your prerogative. Where you went wrong is saying things like:
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Because I'm not insecure about how I look. Making yourself better looking is the only "rational" (use that VERY loosely) reason to do it, and I don't care about that.
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Lifting weights is primarily used to increase muscle mass and strength, both of which have nothing to do with your health.
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If you're lifting with the intention of improving muscle mass, you're not doing it right to the point where health is your priority, like running or eating well.
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I'm saying the positive aspects of weight training don't matter -- they're not worth it.


See, in these cases, you're letting your personal biases affect your ability to objectively judge the situation. Your feelings override fact and you speak as though these things are true, when the reality is that they aren't. I've provided enough credible source material to back that up. Whereas you haven't provided any external sources of information and seem to be relying solely on your own offhand knowledge (or, rather, lack thereof).


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It all comes down to being happy.

I felt lazy and had a gut - which made me feel unhappy.
Ever since I started running and regularly exercising I feel much better about myself and hence actually happy. So if you are happy the way you are - awesome! If you are not happy about your body, get out there and change it.


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If you know, you know.
It all comes down to being happy.

I felt lazy and had a gut - which made me feel unhappy.
Ever since I started running and regularly exercising I feel much better about myself and hence actually happy. So if you are happy the way you are - awesome! If you are not happy about your body, get out there and change it.

I think that's a far more motivating thought than posting "What's your excuse?"

just sayin'


 
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How the hell are you people arguing about this LOL

Exercise is good and important. Bodybuilding is stupid. End of discussion.
LOL

get the fuck out of here. Bodybuilding is essential to get the pussy and/or dick


 
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The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
Pretty sure the average person doesnt have to be concerned about such health issues


 
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Bodybuilding is essential to get the pussy and/or dick
if you have no game then sure having a nice body will help.


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How the hell are you people arguing about this LOL

Exercise is good and important. Bodybuilding is stupid. End of discussion.

I don't think anyone argues against this. Just the concept that weights is like, the only way you can do exercise. I mean, I just do a lot of walking and don't eat crap and I'm neither over or under weight. I'm at a happy medium where I don't change.



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Bodybuilding is essential to get the pussy and/or dick
if you have no game then sure having a nice body will help.
Shit man, I just come up with lots and lots of bullshit and then I hit enter.

It's not essential tbh, but I make stuff sound important.


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How the hell are you people arguing about this LOL

Exercise is good and important. Bodybuilding is stupid. End of discussion.
LOL

get the fuck out of here. Bodybuilding is essential to get the pussy and/or dick

It's a good thing that's not something I care about then :^)


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How the hell are you people arguing about this LOL

Exercise is good and important. Bodybuilding is stupid. End of discussion.

I don't think anyone argues against this. Just the concept that weights is like, the only way you can do exercise. I mean, I just do a lot of walking and don't eat crap and I'm neither over or under weight. I'm at a happy medium where I don't change.
have you been reading prehistorics posts?


 
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How the hell are you people arguing about this LOL

Exercise is good and important. Bodybuilding is stupid. End of discussion.
LOL

get the fuck out of here. Bodybuilding is essential to get the pussy and/or dick

It's a good thing that's not something I care about then :^)
Neither do I tbh fam. I've never kissed a person sexually, or romantically. Shit, I should start giving people the double cheek kisses as greetings.



 
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Because I'm not insecure about how I look. Making yourself better looking is the only "rational" (use that VERY loosely) reason to do it, and I don't care about that.

I don't see the issue. I answered the OP's question.

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Lifting weights is primarily used to increase muscle mass and strength, both of which have nothing to do with your health.

health
helTH
noun
the state of being free from illness or injury.
"he was restored to health"

Again, I don't give a shit about health, and no one else does. People don't lift to be healthy -- they do it to look good.

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See, in these cases, you're letting your personal biases affect your ability to objectively judge the situation. Your feelings override fact and you speak as though these things are true, when the reality is that they aren't.

Everything I've said is 100% true.

Most people don't care about health in relation to lifting weights -- check
being able to bench press 240 isn't going to affect your ability to fight off a cold in any way that simply eating well won't -- check
most people who weight lift are insecure about their looks -- check

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seem to be relying solely on your own offhand knowledge.

Uhh, yeah. That's exactly what I'm doing. This is a conversation about my opinion. I don't know a better place to get empirical data regarding my opinion besides MYSELF.

Like, if you wanna make the argument that weightlifting is healthy, fine. I'm not going to contest that. But I'm arguing that
a) no one weight lifts to be healthy
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b) caring about health is stupid


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How the hell are you people arguing about this LOL

Exercise is good and important. Bodybuilding is stupid. End of discussion.

I don't think anyone argues against this. Just the concept that weights is like, the only way you can do exercise. I mean, I just do a lot of walking and don't eat crap and I'm neither over or under weight. I'm at a happy medium where I don't change.
have you been reading prehistorics posts?

So that's who ra is. Huh.


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How the hell are you people arguing about this LOL

Exercise is good and important. Bodybuilding is stupid. End of discussion.

I don't think anyone argues against this. Just the concept that weights is like, the only way you can do exercise. I mean, I just do a lot of walking and don't eat crap and I'm neither over or under weight. I'm at a happy medium where I don't change.
I couldn't care less about being healthy as long as I'm not obese or so out of shape that I can't run up some stairs without gasping for breath.

There's really no need to be in the gym everyday pushing your body to its limits if you aren't an athlete. You're wasting time. Put that effort into something that can get you real results that will improve your life.

That's pretty much my stance. As long as I can walk to where I need to go, I don't really care much beyond that.



 
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How the hell are you people arguing about this LOL

Exercise is good and important. Bodybuilding is stupid. End of discussion.

I don't think anyone argues against this. Just the concept that weights is like, the only way you can do exercise. I mean, I just do a lot of walking and don't eat crap and I'm neither over or under weight. I'm at a happy medium where I don't change.
have you been reading prehistorics posts?

So that's who ra is. Huh.

You could just check my username, lol.