Why does the US think 9/11 is the worst crime to humanity

Girl of Mystery · April 27, 2015, 10:12:07 AM

Quote from: Sylvie on April 27, 2015, 10:03:56 AM

Quote from: Lemön | Blowjob Master on April 27, 2015, 10:03:23 AM
So is Sylvie the new LonePaul?
Who's that?

Someone who has a raging hate boner for everything American and gets off over the thought of the UK being the best nation.
His porn folder contains the map of the British Empire.

Mat Cauthon · April 27, 2015, 10:12:57 AM

Quote from: Lemön | Blowjob Master on April 27, 2015, 10:12:07 AM

His porn folder contains the map of the British Empire.

And some 14 year old girls.

Girl of Mystery · April 27, 2015, 10:14:39 AM

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His porn folder contains the map of the British Empire.
And some 14 year old girls.

it's okay if cavemen did it

challengerX · April 27, 2015, 10:18:35 AM

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Naru · April 27, 2015, 10:22:50 AM

Oh my gOD you niggers

FatherlyNick - fuck putin · April 27, 2015, 10:59:08 AM

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World logic

US takes part in about 3 wars and various conflicts

Wins Nobel peace award

kek
Well, who gave out the awards? The winning side?

*sips tea*

Yes, which completely destroyed the award's credibility in my eyes.

Sandtrap · April 27, 2015, 11:01:30 AM

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I've never heard any Americans say that.

Why do all other countries insist on circpejerking their hate for America?

Because there's a lot to hate. It's a country founded on war and violence. War to form the country. War on the native, original poplulation. Violence towards blacks via slavery. Vietnam. The conflicts in the east.

The government is, without even arguing, retarded. The companies and corporations that originate from are oppressive string pullers over there that nikel and dime you and others.

And some of the people, although I'm not saying they're bad, are riding a very old hype train of "we're the best" based off old events in history when the world is leaving them behind right now in advancements.

And lastly, the population itself is so divided and against itself.

The proof is in the numbers. More speficially, I'm not saying it's the people. But the american government, its sociatal values, its blind patriotisim and practical propaganda, make the country a place to dislike and a place to hate, and an easy target.
Russia fits this little stereotype of yours far better than America.

Do we see people hating on Russia they way they hate on America? Nope. Because nobody's jealous of Russia. Russia isn't anywhere near as relevant in anything as America is.

There are very valid criticisms to make on America. The ones you just made can be applied to every single country on the planet.

You know, part of the reason stereotypes exist is because they play a hand in reality. They do, have a founding. A stereotype is just too broad of a generalization and yet at the same time it still has a vague sense of merit.

Anyway.

A true point to dislike about America. It's an expansive, smothering and consuming culture. Case and and point.

Mcdonalds. Walmart. Target. Best Buy.

These stores are all across the world. These places push into other cultures and erode them over time. Japan. Japan's youth are having problems because they're moving away from their countries traditional way of eating and going to Mcdonalds.

This is what you'd call passive aggressive culture smothering. Set up shop in a country, and sell them your shit, and you gain control. You influence the culture passively by selling them your shit until all that's left is another western-esque clone and a shell of a country, its people, and its culutre.

This, is undeniable. And it's America that pushes this across the entire world.
Nobody's forced to go to McDonalds.

There's no "cultural smothering" going on. People like going to McDonald's, so they go eat there. If the Japanese youth is fucked up, that's Japan's problem. McDonald's doesn't make young Japanese people not have sex and become obsessed with anime. That's traditional Japanese culture, funnily enough, being too strict and forcing kids to go to extremes.

These American stores wouldn't stay open for years and years in there countries if the locals didn't buy things from them. Don't like it? Don't buy it.

But don't dare act like America itself has this agenda of destroying every other culture when

1. These are companies expanding to make more money and become more successful.

2. America is the most culturally diverse place on the planet.

3. Neither the American government or people have any say in the matter of McDonald's setting up shop in Tokyo.

There's nothing "undeniable" about any of what you said. It's just more foreigner hatred for America from yet another foreigner who hasn't set foot in America.

I wouldn't say hatred. That's too strong of a word. "Mild unenthusiasm" would be better.

"It's japan's problem." That's a fair point. Because it is the country itself that sanctioned and allowed it. But that's where it starts. Remember. You roll up shop in a country. Sell them your shit. And over time, all the old stuff native to the country is forgotten.

Where people would eat stuff from their country, their styles of food, they'd eat mcdonalds because it's cheap, and quick. Where they'd buy styles of clothing, furniture, whatever really, native to their country, they'd buy from walmart and target. That's how you fundamentally and passively wipe out a country.

Get the younger generations hooked on the new shit. As discussed elsewhere on this site, don't like it don't buy it only works on those who care or can even realize the point in the first place. AKA we come down to the shit industry with gamers. Don't like it don't by it is fine and dandy but it won't shut anything down when the less educated folks fill your empty spot.

And, I never said america has the agenda. The corporations founded there, the government. That's not america. That's a rather ugly aspect.

And lastly.

"Culturally diverse."

A melting pot. Every culture rolled up into one so that all old values, and traditions, dissappear, with only the prominent ones that see usage left surviving.

It's like trying to make rainbow putty as a kid by smushing all the colours together and getting a grey blob instead.

Don't get me wrong, being culturally diverse is fine and dandy. Staying, diverse as a culture should be a concern to other countries round the world.

America, Canada, and the UK don't encourage diversity in the good way. They do it the grey play-doh way.

So yes, it is passive culture smothering.

You can say, "Oh but if they like mcdonalds than they can eat there."

Yes, they can. In America. Remember our talk on the muslim population in the UK? Why go to live in a country if you're not going to adopt it's values and culture? Reverse it. Why stay in yours if you enjoy all the stuff you get from american companies?

That's what I'm trying to say here. It's not exactly "America." But America is an origin point to some pretty shitty things. America has some deep roots in the companies founded there. Those companies don't make America what it is, but at the same time, they do in some respects.

It's a heavy conumer based culture and it's centered around business. To which I come to your last point.

It's fine, to expand and grow more successful.

But at what fucking point, is your business enough? At what point will corporations be satisfied that they're successful and churning in hundreds of millions a day? Not when they've planted a store on every block in their home country. Not when they've done it to the neighboring country next door. Only when everybody has one. Every last population center has one round the world.

This comes down to my original, starting point.

America makes itself quite a target to focus on negative aspects. Crime rates, obesity, rampant consumerism and a harborer of shitty corporations. Mainly, because people have a tendancy to focus on the negative first and because it's advertised so heavily.

As I said. Hate's a strong word. I'm sure if I jumped the border without getting shot and visited around I'd enjoy myself.

PSU · April 27, 2015, 11:10:54 AM

The edgiest topic I've ever seen

challengerX · April 27, 2015, 11:33:59 AM

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Girl of Mystery · April 27, 2015, 11:47:59 AM

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London has double the crime rate of NY city.

I'd just like to chime in here and point out that America and the UK have differences on what constitutes as a crime.

Naru · April 27, 2015, 12:14:12 PM

Quote from: PSU on April 27, 2015, 11:10:54 AM

The edgiest topic I've ever seen

I got bored, ok?

Sandtrap · April 27, 2015, 12:55:46 PM

Quote from: challengerX on April 27, 2015, 11:33:59 AM

1. And I'm generalizing

2. Here's a list of where walmart has set up shop on the world.
-Canada
-United States
-Brazil
-Argentina
-Chile
-Mexico
-United Kingdom
-Nigeria
-Ghana
-The lower portion of South Africa
-China
-India
-Japan
Here's the source info. From Walmart itself. http://corporate.walmart.com/our-story/our-business/locations/

Target:
-United States
-Canada
-India
Source: https://corporate.target.com/careers/global-locations Target homepage and wikipedia respectively.

Best Buy:
-United States
-Canada
-Puerto Reco
-Mexico
-China
Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_Buy

Mcdonalds: Every fucking country except Africa
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_McDonald%27s_restaurants

4. If you're eating, and buying stuff from those stores? You're a little less focused on your own country's standards. Standards of quality, standards of production, and standards of tradition. There is no, "American" way to dress. But there is a westernized way to dress because you're buying western style stuff from western style companies.

5. A country's culture, and habits, can be pushed out by industry. Take the east, and india. Their standards of fabric are different from ours. It's not cheap nylon and mass produced to such an extent. Start selling westernized apparel there en masse and you will, snuff out the countrie's original values and standards in those regards.

6. I'm writing on the run. Not calling out the american people. Just the societal values.

7. No it isn't a racist way. Picture every colour as a culture, a spectrum. Smush them into one and they'll start to blend into a mass that's the same colour. That's not racist, that's called the melting pot, and it is inherently a negative thing.

8.Out of the three America is largely the best at remaining and keeping everybody seperate.

9.That's a discussion held in your very thread about the islamic culture in Britain. Discussion of tight cultural borders and countries establishing them and keeping them intact. Why move to a country and not adopt it's standards and culture if you're going to be a citizen? The same could be said and reversed. Why emmulate another culture and instead, just move to the heart of said culture?

10. I own a family business. I could break away, move somewhere else, and open up a store under the same name, sell the same stuff, and then start opening them up everywhere. A business chain. But I don't because this pays the bills and I don't want anymore money then what I already have.

Doing so, spreading so far, is the very definition of being greedy. There's a point where you stop and say, "Okay, I'm making enough now, time to put my foot down." Most corporations, don't ever do that.

11. As lemon said, different meanings and standards.

Being in second place obesity wise still isn't something to be proud about.

The UK is so fat because they're westernized. The same of Mexico. The same of Canada.

12. Rampant consumerism is a problem in westernized countries.

13. Yes. America is Number Uno. #1. The big champ.

So you know what that means? You can't be number one without being the heart of the problems. What do all the countries I listed have similar things to them? Overweight, overconsumption, corporate greed. Those countries are all westernized, or in the process of being westernized.

It's not so much the American culture as it is the Western Culture. That's what I missed. Wrong terms. And as we all know, Western Culture, it's traits and its habits, originated in America.

14. I just gave you 13, well, 12 or 11 valid points. You and I are both aware that society has issues. Problems and fuck ups. Everybody, every country, has them. But the Western Culture, is an amplifyer to problems. And the Western Culture, is expansive and passively agressive.

Your proof is in other westernized countries. Your proof is in how all of their problems seem to be similiar and closely linked.

You are, absolutely right. America is, Number 1. As such, it is impossible to be Number 1, without also being the Number 1 source of problems in the world, and in society as it exists today.

So there you go. I'm not calling the american people shitty. There's nice people, and nice places wherever you go. But the culture that's pushed, the trends, and societal norms, are not peachy. And the culture, westernized culture, is like a cancer. It spreads. Overwrites, and very slowly, and subtly erodes other cultures over time.

You want the reason why America is a target?

It's number 1 for both the good, and bad. I mean, you can't deny the good things about america. Because there are good things. But if you're number 1, then you're going to be the proprieter of the bad as well. And it's patriotism, that blinds people to that.

I'll leave it at that Challenger. I'm not out to spew hate garbage or hate in general. But, I was, answering a question that was asked. It just takes time for me to make things coherent these days. Hopefully, what I put up there shows the picture and my point, which was never to bash or hate.

FatherlyNick - fuck putin · April 27, 2015, 01:24:30 PM

Quote from: Lemön | Blowjob Master on April 27, 2015, 10:12:07 AM

Quote from: Sylvie on April 27, 2015, 10:03:56 AM
Quote from: Lemön | Blowjob Master on April 27, 2015, 10:03:23 AM
So is Sylvie the new LonePaul?
Who's that?
Someone who has a raging hate boner for everything American and gets off over the thought of the UK being the best nation.
His porn folder contains the map of the British Empire.

Do people actually have porn folders nowadays?

DAS B00T x2 · April 27, 2015, 01:26:30 PM

Quote from: FatherlyNick on April 27, 2015, 01:24:30 PM

Quote from: Lemön | Blowjob Master on April 27, 2015, 10:12:07 AM
Quote from: Sylvie on April 27, 2015, 10:03:56 AM
Quote from: Lemön | Blowjob Master on April 27, 2015, 10:03:23 AM
So is Sylvie the new LonePaul?
Who's that?
Someone who has a raging hate boner for everything American and gets off over the thought of the UK being the best nation.
His porn folder contains the map of the British Empire.

Do people actually have porn folders nowadays?

Yes.
The internet is always changing. Some things are worth saving.

big sponge · April 27, 2015, 01:28:34 PM

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Mcdonalds: Every fucking country except Africa

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Every fucking country except Africa

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country except Africa

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country

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Sandtrap · April 27, 2015, 01:37:34 PM

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Mcdonalds: Every fucking country except Africa

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Every fucking country except Africa

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country except Africa

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Yes yes I know. Africa the country. That doesn't sound right.

But the point stands. There's only 1 or 2 countries on the continent of Africa with mcdonalds. Which is, essentially nothing if we're taking into account the entire continent.

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Luciana · April 27, 2015, 02:32:21 PM

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I'll die before I let some inbred royal dictate my future.
I just want to let people know he doesn't speak for all of us Americunts. This post hurt to read.
>unironically not shitting on monarchy, objectively the worst form of government in history.
>not knowing what a Constitutional Monarchy is
This is part of the reason we think Americans are dumb. They understand very little about what they hate.
Great way to generalize.
It is every non-American's duty to generalise you strange lot a lot; yet still somehow a lot less than you do to everyone else.
*generalize

We strange lot? Quite an ignorant assertion.
Says the person correcting my CORRECT SPELLING.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences#-ise.2C_-ize_.28-isation.2C_-ization.29
Correct? Learn cultural differences. You might suffering from superiority complex which is sad since an American has less arrogance than you at this moment.

Don't mind him, he fucks dogs. His words don't really have much ground due to that :^)

Girl of Mystery · April 27, 2015, 02:33:59 PM

Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on April 27, 2015, 02:31:16 PM

All these generalizations and US bashings are making me sad. Especially since it seems it's mostly based off of incorrect assumptions and hating the country for the sake of hating it.

Know what you're actually talking about, at least.

shut up americano pig

Mr. Psychologist · April 27, 2015, 02:36:11 PM

>tfw yanks still take banter seriously

Round 1: 1812 - DC
UK 1 : USA 0

Round 2: 2015 - Sep7agon forums
UK 2: USA 0

Luciana · April 27, 2015, 02:37:46 PM

I'm not kidding about that dog fucking thing. Literally everyone on bungle hates him for it. I just happened to hear about it.

Mat Cauthon · April 27, 2015, 02:40:11 PM

Is this still going on?
lol

Girl of Mystery · April 27, 2015, 02:41:31 PM

Quote from: Luciana on April 27, 2015, 02:37:46 PM

I'm not kidding about that dog fucking thing. Literally everyone on bungle hates him for it. I just happened to hear about it.

who fucks dogs?

Naru · April 27, 2015, 02:41:49 PM

Quote from: Luciana on April 27, 2015, 02:37:46 PM

I'm not kidding about that dog fucking thing. Literally everyone on bungle hates him for it. I just happened to hear about it.

what the fuck is this about now

Cindy · April 27, 2015, 02:45:48 PM

Lol this thread is so damn dumb

Girl of Mystery · April 27, 2015, 02:49:17 PM

This just gets better and better

Mat Cauthon · April 27, 2015, 02:56:49 PM

Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on April 27, 2015, 02:55:35 PM

This forum I fucking swear.

We need air raid sirens.
Or vuvuzelas.

Naru · April 27, 2015, 02:56:59 PM

I love this thread.

I'd like to thank Cheat for creating this site and Ryle for giving us dank memes, along with Comms.