Why can't we just spell phonetically?

 
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Quote from: Meta Cognition on August 05, 2014, 09:40:25 AM
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or use onomatopoeia for everything

 
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letters and words have been divorced from spoken sounds since middle English (thank you Normans) if we decided to fix our language we'd have to create an entirely new alphabet and spelling/grammar rules. Essentially we'd have to build a new language from the ground up.

 
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They say you are what you eat, but I don't remember eating mYsELF
Then everyone would have the same accent.

 
 
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Quote from: Trojanlord on August 05, 2014, 11:17:00 AM
letters and words have been divorced from spoken sounds since middle English (thank you Normans) if we decided to fix our language we'd have to create an entirely new alphabet and spelling/grammar rules. Essentially we'd have to build a new language from the ground up.

If J.R. Tolkien could make up the entire elven language for his books, I'm sure a bunch of labcoats could as well. However, the real problem would be teaching everybody.

 
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Quote from: Sandtrap on August 05, 2014, 12:14:19 PM
Quote from: Trojanlord on August 05, 2014, 11:17:00 AM
letters and words have been divorced from spoken sounds since middle English (thank you Normans) if we decided to fix our language we'd have to create an entirely new alphabet and spelling/grammar rules. Essentially we'd have to build a new language from the ground up.

If J.R. Tolkien could make up the entire elven language for his books, I'm sure a bunch of labcoats could as well. However, the real problem would be teaching everybody.

If people can learn Russian they can learn elvish

 
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Blame the French for fucking up the English language.

 
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Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 05, 2014, 12:17:25 PM
Blame the French for fucking up the English language.



Sure thing pal.

 
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They say you are what you eat, but I don't remember eating mYsELF
Quote from: Sandtrap on August 05, 2014, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 05, 2014, 12:17:25 PM
Blame the French for fucking up the English language.



Sure thing pal.
Also, "anann" in Irish.

 
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Quote from: Sandtrap on August 05, 2014, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 05, 2014, 12:17:25 PM
Blame the French for fucking up the English language.



Sure thing pal.

He's right though. When the Normans took power in England they divorced the spoken and written English. English being fucked is a direct result of the French.

 
 
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Quote from: Sandtrap on August 05, 2014, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 05, 2014, 12:17:25 PM
Blame the French for fucking up the English language.



Sure thing pal.
Everyone else is dumb. That's totally a fucking apple that looks like a pine cone, so it's a pineapple!

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Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 05, 2014, 01:24:47 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on August 05, 2014, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 05, 2014, 12:17:25 PM
Blame the French for fucking up the English language.



Sure thing pal.
Everyone else is dumb. That's totally a fucking apple that looks like a pine cone, so it's a pineapple!

holy fucking shit, you're right

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Quote from: Zizzy on August 05, 2014, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on August 05, 2014, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 05, 2014, 12:17:25 PM
Blame the French for fucking up the English language.



Sure thing pal.
Also, "anann" in Irish.

*Gaelic

It's like saying Israelis speak Israeli, rather than Hebrew   

 
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Quote from: SoporificSlash on August 05, 2014, 04:18:52 PM
Quote from: Sprungli on August 05, 2014, 03:46:39 PM

Quote from: Zizzy on August 05, 2014, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on August 05, 2014, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 05, 2014, 12:17:25 PM
Blame the French for fucking up the English language.



Sure thing pal.
Also, "anann" in Irish.

*Gaelic

It's like saying Israelis speak Israeli, rather than Hebrew
I've always heard it referred to as Irish, even by Irish people. It's the same thing, there's no wrong terminology.

True, but it is Gaelic, a lot of Irish people just refer to it as Irish to save confusion, especially as areas of Scotland speak Gaelic as well

 
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They say you are what you eat, but I don't remember eating mYsELF
Quote from: Sprungli on August 05, 2014, 03:46:39 PM


Sure thing pal.
Also, "anann" in Irish.


*Gaelic

It's like saying Israelis speak Israeli, rather than Hebrew
I live in Ireland, I speak Irish, and literally no one I know refers to it as "Gaelic". Sure, if someone said " I speak Gaelic", you'd know what they're talking about, but it's not used in that context often. Everyone uses "Irish" or "Gaeilge" when referring to it, "Gaelic" is almost always used to denote the sport of Gaelic Football.

 
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Quote from: Sprungli on August 05, 2014, 04:29:43 PM
True, but it is Gaelic, a lot of Irish people just refer to it as Irish to save confusion, especially as areas of Scotland speak Gaelic as well
Two different languages.

 
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Quote from: Zizzy on August 05, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
I live in Ireland, I speak Irish, and literally no one I know refers to it as "Gaelic". Sure, if someone said " I speak Gaelic", you'd know what they're talking about, but it's not used in that context often. Everyone uses "Irish" or "Gaeilge" when referring to it, "Gaelic" is almost always used to denote the sport of Gaelic Football.


I do know, and I was just saying that the official name is Gaelic, whilst I am English I spend a lot of time in Ireland. In fact, i'm heading over Tuesday for two weeks

 
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Quote from: Sprungli on August 05, 2014, 06:01:08 PM

I do know, and I was just saying that the official name is Gaelic, whilst I am English I spend a lot of time in Ireland. In fact, i'm heading over Tuesday for two weeks
Both are correct, the main difference being that "Irish" is far more commonly used in conversation (and that it is more accurate, given that Gaelic isn't specific to the Irish language). Your correction was kinda pointless.

 
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Quote from: Zizzy on August 05, 2014, 06:06:17 PM
Both are correct, the main difference being that "Irish" is far more commonly used in conversation (and that it is more accurate, given that Gaelic isn't specific to the Irish language). Your correction was kinda pointless.

That was my point, calling Gaelic Irish is a little off as Gaelic is spoken in parts of Scotland and even places in the West of Wales

 
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Quote from: Sprungli on August 05, 2014, 06:28:44 PM
That was my point, calling Gaelic Irish is a little off as Gaelic is spoken in parts of Scotland and even places in the West of Wales
This is the exact opposite of what I was saying. Gaelic that is spoken in Scotland and Wales is a different language.
Gaelic in Ireland is Irish Gaelic.
Gaelic in Scotland is Scottish Gaelic.
Referring to Irish Gaelic as the broad term "Gaelic" is less accurate, as the word "Gaelic" pertains to any one of the languages (including a third one, Manx Gaelic).
There's no confusion with the word "Irish".

 
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