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*Sigh*

Let me guess... you don't understand why people like firearms?

Yea.

Why do you like hockey?

I started playing it when I was 3 and have grown up watching it and playing it.
It's a sport that I both enjoy watching and participating in.
And best of all I'm not shooting a lethal weapon. :^)

And shooting a lethal weapons is bad how? Not like gun ranges have people tied up and you fire at them. Just like with every hobby, it's about enjoyment, making friends, developing a skill, and just having fun

While having weapons that could kill dozens of people in seconds at your fingertips.
There's a difference between a hobby that you try to get an object in a net and a hobby where you could kill many people with any inclination to do so.

I would be surprised if you could kill dozens of people in seconds with a semi automatic rife.

With enough people lined up I'm sure it could be done.

They would have to be standing still and in a straight line I suppose, but the same thing can be said about cars or planes.

Not literally line up. But having a lot of people in one area.

Quote from: Kernel Kraut on January 11, 2015, 01:16:19 PM

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Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 11, 2015, 12:40:10 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 12:36:09 PM

*Sigh*

Let me guess... you don't understand why people like firearms?

Yea.

Why do you like hockey?

I started playing it when I was 3 and have grown up watching it and playing it.
It's a sport that I both enjoy watching and participating in.
And best of all I'm not shooting a lethal weapon. :^)

And shooting a lethal weapons is bad how? Not like gun ranges have people tied up and you fire at them. Just like with every hobby, it's about enjoyment, making friends, developing a skill, and just having fun

While having weapons that could kill dozens of people in seconds at your fingertips.
There's a difference between a hobby that you try to get an object in a net and a hobby where you could kill many people with any inclination to do so.

I would be surprised if you could kill dozens of people in seconds with a semi automatic rife.

With enough people lined up I'm sure it could be done.

"Excuse me, I intend to mass murder the lot of you. Can you all line up orderly so I can shoot you down like dominoes?"

Being in a town square.
Bank
Grocery store

Lets take into consideration that you'd have a semi automatic rifle
The rpm is not enough to accurately hit and kill dozens within seconds
The people would immediently scatter making them difficult to school
Police or other people with guns would kill you in seconds
You're not a super shot, you won't be shooting everyone in the head

Quote from: Septy on January 11, 2015, 01:20:03 PM

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Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 11, 2015, 12:49:56 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 12:41:05 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 11, 2015, 12:40:10 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 12:36:09 PM

*Sigh*

Let me guess... you don't understand why people like firearms?

Yea.

Why do you like hockey?

I started playing it when I was 3 and have grown up watching it and playing it.
It's a sport that I both enjoy watching and participating in.
And best of all I'm not shooting a lethal weapon. :^)

And shooting a lethal weapons is bad how? Not like gun ranges have people tied up and you fire at them. Just like with every hobby, it's about enjoyment, making friends, developing a skill, and just having fun

While having weapons that could kill dozens of people in seconds at your fingertips.
There's a difference between a hobby that you try to get an object in a net and a hobby where you could kill many people with any inclination to do so.

I would be surprised if you could kill dozens of people in seconds with a semi automatic rife.

With enough people lined up I'm sure it could be done.

"Excuse me, I intend to mass murder the lot of you. Can you all line up orderly so I can shoot you down like dominoes?"

Being in a town square.
Bank
Grocery store

Lets take into consideration that you'd have a semi automatic rifle
The rpm is not enough to accurately hit and kill dozens within seconds
The people would immediently scatter making them difficult to school
Police or other people with guns would kill you in seconds
You're not a super shot, you won't be shooting everyone in the head

technicalities bro.

It can't be done. I could take my car to Times Square and kill a bunch of people too by running them over. Or fly a plane into a building.

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 01:20:50 PM

Quote from: Septy on January 11, 2015, 01:20:03 PM

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Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 01:15:12 PM

Quote from: Septy on January 11, 2015, 01:12:33 PM

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Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 11, 2015, 12:55:17 PM

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Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 11, 2015, 12:49:56 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 12:41:05 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 11, 2015, 12:40:10 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 12:36:09 PM

*Sigh*

Let me guess... you don't understand why people like firearms?

Yea.

Why do you like hockey?

I started playing it when I was 3 and have grown up watching it and playing it.
It's a sport that I both enjoy watching and participating in.
And best of all I'm not shooting a lethal weapon. :^)

And shooting a lethal weapons is bad how? Not like gun ranges have people tied up and you fire at them. Just like with every hobby, it's about enjoyment, making friends, developing a skill, and just having fun

While having weapons that could kill dozens of people in seconds at your fingertips.
There's a difference between a hobby that you try to get an object in a net and a hobby where you could kill many people with any inclination to do so.

I would be surprised if you could kill dozens of people in seconds with a semi automatic rife.

With enough people lined up I'm sure it could be done.

"Excuse me, I intend to mass murder the lot of you. Can you all line up orderly so I can shoot you down like dominoes?"

Being in a town square.
Bank
Grocery store

Lets take into consideration that you'd have a semi automatic rifle
The rpm is not enough to accurately hit and kill dozens within seconds
The people would immediently scatter making them difficult to school
Police or other people with guns would kill you in seconds
You're not a super shot, you won't be shooting everyone in the head

technicalities bro.

It can't be done. I could take my car to Times Square and kill a bunch of people too by running them over. Or fly a plane into a building.

Allahu ackbar

Quote from: Kernel Kraut on January 11, 2015, 01:16:19 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 01:15:12 PM

Quote from: Septy on January 11, 2015, 01:12:33 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 12:57:44 PM

Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 11, 2015, 12:55:17 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 12:53:31 PM

Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 11, 2015, 12:49:56 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 12:41:05 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 11, 2015, 12:40:10 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 12:36:09 PM

*Sigh*

Let me guess... you don't understand why people like firearms?

Yea.

Why do you like hockey?

I started playing it when I was 3 and have grown up watching it and playing it.
It's a sport that I both enjoy watching and participating in.
And best of all I'm not shooting a lethal weapon. :^)

And shooting a lethal weapons is bad how? Not like gun ranges have people tied up and you fire at them. Just like with every hobby, it's about enjoyment, making friends, developing a skill, and just having fun

While having weapons that could kill dozens of people in seconds at your fingertips.
There's a difference between a hobby that you try to get an object in a net and a hobby where you could kill many people with any inclination to do so.

I would be surprised if you could kill dozens of people in seconds with a semi automatic rife.

With enough people lined up I'm sure it could be done.

"Excuse me, I intend to mass murder the lot of you. Can you all line up orderly so I can shoot you down like dominoes?"

Being in a town square.
Bank
Grocery store

You greatly over estimate shooter ability and the power of a chosen bullet. 5.56, the round everyone was panicked about, is a .22 caliber projectile that weighs about 55 grains. 5.56 is incredibly light. It's parent cartridge, .223 Remington is considered barely adequate for deer and is generally used for varmint hunting. Animals such as Prairie dogs, rabbits, and Coyotes. The reason the military adopted it was for it's ballistic properties in holding a reasonable trajectory at 300 yards as well as how light of a cartridge it is.

Now in a perfect storm where a shooter has a bunch of people in easy shot, you still probably could not kill the dozens in seconds you claimed. Considering non-lethal wounds and misses, also considering that standard capacity magazines are 30 rounds, dozens killed without a reload would be difficult to your average sperglord mass murderer. This is all assuming of course that the people have not fled at the first sound of a gunshot, and there isn't anyone carrying their own in the crowd. 

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 01:17:22 PM

Quote from: Kernel Kraut on January 11, 2015, 01:16:19 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 01:15:12 PM

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Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 12:57:44 PM

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Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 12:41:05 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 11, 2015, 12:40:10 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 12:36:09 PM

*Sigh*

Let me guess... you don't understand why people like firearms?

Yea.

Why do you like hockey?

I started playing it when I was 3 and have grown up watching it and playing it.
It's a sport that I both enjoy watching and participating in.
And best of all I'm not shooting a lethal weapon. :^)

And shooting a lethal weapons is bad how? Not like gun ranges have people tied up and you fire at them. Just like with every hobby, it's about enjoyment, making friends, developing a skill, and just having fun

While having weapons that could kill dozens of people in seconds at your fingertips.
There's a difference between a hobby that you try to get an object in a net and a hobby where you could kill many people with any inclination to do so.

I would be surprised if you could kill dozens of people in seconds with a semi automatic rife.

With enough people lined up I'm sure it could be done.

"Excuse me, I intend to mass murder the lot of you. Can you all line up orderly so I can shoot you down like dominoes?"

Being in a town square.
Bank
Grocery store

You greatly over estimate shooter ability and the power of a chosen bullet. 5.56, the round everyone was panicked about, is a .22 caliber projectile that weighs about 55 grains. 5.56 is incredibly light. It's parent cartridge, .223 Remington is considered barely adequate for deer and is generally used for varmint hunting. Animals such as Prairie dogs, rabbits, and Coyotes. The reason the military adopted it was for it's ballistic properties in holding a reasonable trajectory at 300 yards as well as how light of a cartridge it is.

Now in a perfect storm where a shooter has a bunch of people in easy shot, you still probably could not kill the dozens in seconds you claimed. Considering non-lethal wounds and misses, also considering that standard capacity magazines are 30 rounds, dozens killed without a reload would be difficult to your average sperglord mass murderer. This is all assuming of course that the people have not fled at the first sound of a gunshot, and there isn't anyone carrying their own in the crowd.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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I believe it has to do with the fact that if you give your gun decent care, it will outlast you and your child's life.

My oldest Mosin was built in 1925 and still fires just right so yeah >.>

There's some 19th century breech lock that I don't know a whole lot about hanging on my grandfather's wall. I do know it's still fireable though.

Sharps? Is it a Sharps? How about a Sharps? Maybe a Sharps? I bet it's a Sharps. Is it a Sharps?

God, I want a 45-70 Sharps Carbine.

Too long to be a carbine I think.
I do believe he's said it's a .50 though.

May or may not be some kind of trapdoor Springfield model.

Trapdoor was specifically 45-70.

Sharps made a rifle length as well as a carbine length in .52

Huh, didn't know that.
Tell yeah what, man, I'll try and remember to find a picture for ya when I get home tonight.

I look forward to it.

Turn of the century cartridge based rifles make my peepee hard.

Quote from: TBlocks on January 11, 2015, 12:57:44 PM

While having weapons that could kill dozens of people in seconds at your fingertips.
There's a difference between a hobby that you try to get an object in a net and a hobby where you could kill many people with any inclination to do so.

holy shit nigga these are guns, not bombs

You'd need to be a fucking Terminator to kill a dozen people that fast.

Then a Terminator they shall be!

Quote from: Tyger on January 11, 2015, 07:55:19 AM

Because of all the taxes and regulations placed on the companies that make them

The right answer. They have to charge a bunch to compensate for all the government bullshit they have to go though.

It really pales in comparison to what the government puts aviation manufactures under though.

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Quote from: Tyger on January 11, 2015, 07:55:19 AM

Because of all the taxes and regulations placed on the companies that make them

The right answer. They have to charge a bunch to compensate for all the government bullshit they have to go though.

It really pales in comparison to what the government puts aviation manufactures under though.

Gee I wonder why

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 11, 2015, 04:22:45 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 11, 2015, 04:19:51 PM

Quote from: Tyger on January 11, 2015, 07:55:19 AM

Because of all the taxes and regulations placed on the companies that make them

The right answer. They have to charge a bunch to compensate for all the government bullshit they have to go though.

It really pales in comparison to what the government puts aviation manufactures under though.

As it should. 90% of people who buy guns use them either to hunt, or to tuck under their pillow for safety and never actually use them.

Aviation manufacturers put thousands of lives at risk with every unit they make. It only makes sense that they should be under greater scrunity.

What if the FAA didn't exist? How many aircraft companies or airlines would be in operation with shit-tacular safety standards? Probably not many if any at all.

Remember, people tend to vote with wallets. I sure as shit would not get on a disreputable airline.

The FAA is pretty shitty when it comes to stifling innovation. They literally just fucked over companies who were producing 'drones' for the consumer market.

Come to think of it, I don't think there is an Alphabet soup agency I actually like.
FAA shits on aviation innovation
CIA are spoopy scary skelingtons (though SAD is pretty operator)
FBI is pretty incompetent
ATF is incredibly incompetent and shoots dogs
IRS takes muh monies

Maybe the Secret Service? I mean, they deal with Counterfeit shit, and I like my money not being devalued. But at the same time, South American hookers...

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Quote from: SecondClass on January 11, 2015, 04:25:24 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 11, 2015, 04:22:45 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 11, 2015, 04:19:51 PM

Quote from: Tyger on January 11, 2015, 07:55:19 AM

Because of all the taxes and regulations placed on the companies that make them

The right answer. They have to charge a bunch to compensate for all the government bullshit they have to go though.

It really pales in comparison to what the government puts aviation manufactures under though.

As it should. 90% of people who buy guns use them either to hunt, or to tuck under their pillow for safety and never actually use them.

Aviation manufacturers put thousands of lives at risk with every unit they make. It only makes sense that they should be under greater scrunity.

What if the FAA didn't exist? How many aircraft companies or airlines would be in operation with shit-tacular safety standards? Probably not many if any at all.

Remember, people tend to vote with wallets. I sure as shit would not get on a disreputable airline.

The FAA is pretty shitty when it comes to stifling innovation. They literally just fucked over companies who were producing 'drones' for the consumer market.

Come to think of it, I don't think there is an Alphabet soup agency I actually like.
FAA shits on aviation innovation
CIA are spoopy scary skelingtons (though SAD is pretty operator)
FBI is pretty incompetent
ATF is incredibly incompetent and shoots dogs
IRS takes muh monies

Maybe the Secret Service? I mean, they deal with Counterfeit shit, and I like my money not being devalued. But at the same time, South American hookers...

There is a good side to the FAA though. Our ATP's have to have shitloads of hours before they can fly left seat, unlike some Asian nations....

Every agency does some good, well except maybe the BATFE. They can do only evil.

I am currently looking at a Henry Golden Boy .22cal for $550 and a Lee Enfield for $465

Id you're going to get a Lee Enfield, get an Ishapore variant chambered in .308. That way you won't have to pour all your money into ammo for it or reload your own shell.s