Fast food for $9 an hour isn't worth it
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Hard work always pays off.
Quote from: Eli on April 15, 2018, 10:27:36 AMHard work always pays off.nah
Quote from: Shhhhhh on April 15, 2018, 10:31:46 AMQuote from: Eli on April 15, 2018, 10:27:36 AMHard work always pays off.nahYeah, even if you're just building a habit of working hard.
would like to point you to the slave trade
there's also no shortage of hardworking people who died never having amounted to anything, unless "amounting to anything" isn't your idea of hard work paid offhow about the military, does that ever pay off for the average person
The pay-off is discipline and self-worth.
This is something verbatim can never understand in his current mindset, there's no use arguing. He has thoroughly convinced himself that life is unfair but should be fair, otherwise life doesn't deserve to exist. Until he moves on from this childish idea that he (or anybody else) is entitled to anything, there's no benefit to discussing anything seriously with him.
Quote from: Eli on April 15, 2018, 11:01:21 AMThe pay-off is discipline and self-worth.the payoff is also exhaustion, misery, and ageโoftentimes in greater amounts
How do you figure? Exhaustion? Because your body adapts over time. Any job you have now is nothing compared to hunting and gathering so your body has a long way to go before it could be considered "exhausted." Maybe you mean mental exhaustion, in which case you need to work off the cortisol released in your body through exercise or a proper diet. Luckily you're pretty close to the ideal diet, anyway.
Misery? Humans are wired to feel good after completing something that needs to be done especially if you don't want to do it.
And age comes for everyone
Quote from: Eli on April 15, 2018, 11:47:43 AMHow do you figure? Exhaustion? Because your body adapts over time. Any job you have now is nothing compared to hunting and gathering so your body has a long way to go before it could be considered "exhausted." Maybe you mean mental exhaustion, in which case you need to work off the cortisol released in your body through exercise or a proper diet. Luckily you're pretty close to the ideal diet, anyway.emotionalnobody hates doing work more than i do, because i enjoy hating work, and i will die on that hilli would prefer to enjoy work, but i can't force myself to do that, and even if i could, i wouldn't, because forcing yourself to enjoy things that you viscerally do not sounds completely insane to meQuoteMisery? Humans are wired to feel good after completing something that needs to be done especially if you don't want to do it.you just described the exact opposite of how reality works, especially for mei finish something i've been working on and the next thing i want to do is kill myselfi feel nothing but sheer emptiness QuoteAnd age comes for everyonebut i don't feel myself getting older unless i'm working
QuoteMisery? Humans are wired to feel good after completing something that needs to be done especially if you don't want to do it.you just described the exact opposite of how reality works, especially for mei finish something i've been working on and the next thing i want to do is kill myself
That's fine if you're like that but it's a bit silly to assume that's how it works for everyone, and furthermore, that's how it should work for everyone.
This is actually concerning. Does this apply to all work for you?
Quote from: TBlocks on April 15, 2018, 11:59:52 AMThis is actually concerning. Does this apply to all work for you?just the biggest projectsyou get yourself into the groove of chipping away at this big passion project you've had, and when you finally finish it, there's this feeling of "what the fuck do i even do now" combined with "why the fuck did i spend so much time and effort on this"it's never a good feeling
Quote from: Shhhhhh on April 15, 2018, 11:11:29 AMQuote from: Eli on April 15, 2018, 11:01:21 AMThe pay-off is discipline and self-worth.the payoff is also exhaustion, misery, and ageโoftentimes in greater amountsHard work doesn't make a person inherently miserable. There are many people that are miserable when they aren't working hard.
Quote from: Eli on April 15, 2018, 11:58:04 AMThat's fine if you're like that but it's a bit silly to assume that's how it works for everyone, and furthermore, that's how it should work for everyone.you're the one who said "hard work ALWAYS pays off"when it clearly, clearly doesn'tyou can't fuck around with words like "always" or "never" when it comes to human behavior, because there's always going to be people like me out there
No sense of accomplishment or pride? Maybe even relief that the work is over?
Who says hard work doesn't pay off?
