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But we're not talking about your position or about whether you think it's a benefit. We're talking about me and whether I should consider these things (any more) beneficial than what I'm currently doing.

You also didn't really respond to what I asked for. Of course there's other things you can do that give similar benefits. But is there something as quick, effortless, cost-efficient and fun that does the same thing? Everything you've listed takes more money, time or effort than sex all while being much less enjoyable. I also don't see why you couldn't combine them. It's possible to eat fruit, exercise and have a sex life, and in doing so reap more benefits than you could ever get just from doing the first two alone. You haven't really made the case that any of these are better, more efficient or give more benefits than something as simple as having a sex life, and some are just wrong (the urination one to get rid of these toxins, for example, because the whole research underlying this points out how ejaculation does this in a way nothing else can). It's not an or question. It's a "I already eat healthy and exercise, why would doing any more of these things be more efficient than having sex as well" question?

You say it yourself in your final paragraph. It's about cost efficiency. You can eat tons of fruit, exercise, switch to a plant-based diet and all of that, but they'll take more time and effort than just having sex, which also has the added benefit of being entertaining. I exercise, I eat fruit, I do plenty of things that are stress relieving and intellectually stimulating. But making time for sex gives additional health benefits, brings me closer to my partner, supports the relationship and helps me relieve stress in a way that nothing else has ever done. To me, it's far from pointless and nothing in your post has really substantiated that these alternatives are better, more cost/effort efficient or would do me any good in comparison to what I'm already doing. You obviously disagree, but I don't think it's pointless and haven't seen you make a convincing argument that these other things are more cost efficient or better alternatives that would give me the same result.


 
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Flee, imagine if every time you had sex there was a 1 in 100 chance the Quake would be erased from history


 
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Does that include sex or what?
It's up to you, but I think having sex is sort of going against the spirit of the idea.
Eh, if sex is included I already failed anyways. Seems kind of pointless too.
i'm sitting here cracking up at the idea that it is pointless to avoid doing pointless things
But there's notable health and relational benefits to it, hardly making it pointless anymore. It also seems inconsistent with your whole philosophy to be so against suffering but then reject pleasure.
benefits that can surely be achieved elsewhere and in higher quantities

masturbation = 10-30 minutes of time wasted for 3-5 seconds of pleasure; that doesn't seem very efficient

and i don't need to talk about the risks associated with intercourse
I know the risks about intercourse but realistically speaking relationships generally require some level of sexual activity to survive. It's pretty essential.
The risks are also pretty minimal in many relationships. Don't have STDs and use some form of protection, and the risks are almost completely gone.
the safest sex possible is 98.8% successful (over the course of a year of sex)

if every time you had sex, there was a 1 in 100 chance for your head to explode (or something equally horrific), would you still do it
That's not how that statistic works. "For example, when used correctly the male condom is 98% effective, but that's not to say there is a 2% chance of becoming pregnant every time you use one. A 2% failure rate actually means that for every 100 woman using the contraceptive method for an entire year, two will experience an unintended pregnancy."


 
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But we're not talking about your position or about whether you think it's a benefit. We're talking about me and whether I should consider these things (any more) beneficial than what I'm currently doing.
i'm speaking objectively, not what i think

if i were talking about what i think, then i would be 100% on your side

the stupid parts of my brain are agreeing with you, but the smart parts of my brain aren't, and that's what i'm trying to utilize in this discussion

i am biologically hardwired to enjoy sexual activity, but i choose not to be owned by biological impulses
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You also didn't really respond to what I asked for. Of course there's other things you can do that give similar benefits. But is there something as quick, effortless, cost-efficient and fun that does the same thing? Everything you've listed takes more money, time or effort than sex all while being much less enjoyable.
this is just false

it's not something that i can easily prove

i think there's a degree of closed-mindedness and willful ignorance that i think you personally need to get over in order to see my point here
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Does that include sex or what?
It's up to you, but I think having sex is sort of going against the spirit of the idea.
Eh, if sex is included I already failed anyways. Seems kind of pointless too.
i'm sitting here cracking up at the idea that it is pointless to avoid doing pointless things
But there's notable health and relational benefits to it, hardly making it pointless anymore. It also seems inconsistent with your whole philosophy to be so against suffering but then reject pleasure.
benefits that can surely be achieved elsewhere and in higher quantities

masturbation = 10-30 minutes of time wasted for 3-5 seconds of pleasure; that doesn't seem very efficient

and i don't need to talk about the risks associated with intercourse
I know the risks about intercourse but realistically speaking relationships generally require some level of sexual activity to survive. It's pretty essential.
The risks are also pretty minimal in many relationships. Don't have STDs and use some form of protection, and the risks are almost completely gone.
the safest sex possible is 98.8% successful (over the course of a year of sex)

if every time you had sex, there was a 1 in 100 chance for your head to explode (or something equally horrific), would you still do it
That's not how that statistic works. "For example, when used correctly the male condom is 98% effective, but that's not to say there is a 2% chance of becoming pregnant every time you use one. A 2% failure rate actually means that for every 100 woman using the contraceptive method for an entire year, two will experience an unintended pregnancy."
this was specifically noted in the post

not entirely sure how you missed that when it's two lines long


 
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Flee, imagine if every time you had sex there was a 1 in 100 chance the Quake would be erased from history
More like "if a 100 people had frequent sex for a year, 1 one of them would have Quake erased for them at the end". If you'd go by people having sex twice a week, that'd be one unlucky fuck out of 10,000 - with the possibility of lowering that further by doings things like pulling out or being aware of when the woman is most fertile. I'll take those odds.


 
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Flee, imagine if every time you had sex there was a 1 in 100 chance the Quake would be erased from history
More like "if a 100 people had frequent sex for a year, 1 one of them would have Quake erased for them at the end". If you'd go by people having sex twice a week, that'd be one unlucky fuck out of 10,000 - with the possibility of lowering that further by doings things like pulling out or being aware of when the woman is most fertile. I'll take those odds.
then you're a silly person


 
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Does that include sex or what?
It's up to you, but I think having sex is sort of going against the spirit of the idea.
Eh, if sex is included I already failed anyways. Seems kind of pointless too.
i'm sitting here cracking up at the idea that it is pointless to avoid doing pointless things
But there's notable health and relational benefits to it, hardly making it pointless anymore. It also seems inconsistent with your whole philosophy to be so against suffering but then reject pleasure.
benefits that can surely be achieved elsewhere and in higher quantities

masturbation = 10-30 minutes of time wasted for 3-5 seconds of pleasure; that doesn't seem very efficient

and i don't need to talk about the risks associated with intercourse
I know the risks about intercourse but realistically speaking relationships generally require some level of sexual activity to survive. It's pretty essential.
The risks are also pretty minimal in many relationships. Don't have STDs and use some form of protection, and the risks are almost completely gone.
the safest sex possible is 98.8% successful (over the course of a year of sex)

if every time you had sex, there was a 1 in 100 chance for your head to explode (or something equally horrific), would you still do it
That's not how that statistic works. "For example, when used correctly the male condom is 98% effective, but that's not to say there is a 2% chance of becoming pregnant every time you use one. A 2% failure rate actually means that for every 100 woman using the contraceptive method for an entire year, two will experience an unintended pregnancy."
this was specifically noted in the post

not entirely sure how you missed that when it's two lines long
Because you then went on to say "if every time you had sex, there was a 1 in 100 chance for your head to explode (or something equally horrific), would you still do it", which is a wrong interpretation of that statistic. And as I pointed out in that other comment, that'd be more like 1 in 10,000 depending on how often these people had sex.


 
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Flee, imagine if every time you had sex there was a 1 in 100 chance the Quake would be erased from history
More like "if a 100 people had frequent sex for a year, 1 one of them would have Quake erased for them at the end". If you'd go by people having sex twice a week, that'd be one unlucky fuck out of 10,000 - with the possibility of lowering that further by doings things like pulling out or being aware of when the woman is most fertile. I'll take those odds.
then you're a silly person
For having a single video game erased for me? Verb, I would gladly have Quake erased with 100% certainty just to have a healthy sex life with my girlfriend.


 
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Does that include sex or what?
It's up to you, but I think having sex is sort of going against the spirit of the idea.
Eh, if sex is included I already failed anyways. Seems kind of pointless too.
i'm sitting here cracking up at the idea that it is pointless to avoid doing pointless things
But there's notable health and relational benefits to it, hardly making it pointless anymore. It also seems inconsistent with your whole philosophy to be so against suffering but then reject pleasure.
benefits that can surely be achieved elsewhere and in higher quantities

masturbation = 10-30 minutes of time wasted for 3-5 seconds of pleasure; that doesn't seem very efficient

and i don't need to talk about the risks associated with intercourse
I know the risks about intercourse but realistically speaking relationships generally require some level of sexual activity to survive. It's pretty essential.
The risks are also pretty minimal in many relationships. Don't have STDs and use some form of protection, and the risks are almost completely gone.
the safest sex possible is 98.8% successful (over the course of a year of sex)

if every time you had sex, there was a 1 in 100 chance for your head to explode (or something equally horrific), would you still do it
That's not how that statistic works. "For example, when used correctly the male condom is 98% effective, but that's not to say there is a 2% chance of becoming pregnant every time you use one. A 2% failure rate actually means that for every 100 woman using the contraceptive method for an entire year, two will experience an unintended pregnancy."
this was specifically noted in the post

not entirely sure how you missed that when it's two lines long
Because you then went on to say "if every time you had sex, there was a 1 in 100 chance for your head to explode (or something equally horrific), would you still do it", which is a wrong interpretation of that statistic. And as I pointed out in that other comment, that'd be more like 1 in 10,000 depending on how often these people had sex.
given that it was the second line, you should've taken that as a mistake rather than a misinterpretation—i don't think most people would've been confused by that

the point is, 1 in 10K = unacceptably high odds


 
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Flee, imagine if every time you had sex there was a 1 in 100 chance the Quake would be erased from history
More like "if a 100 people had frequent sex for a year, 1 one of them would have Quake erased for them at the end". If you'd go by people having sex twice a week, that'd be one unlucky fuck out of 10,000 - with the possibility of lowering that further by doings things like pulling out or being aware of when the woman is most fertile. I'll take those odds.
then you're a silly person
For having a single video game erased for me? Verb, I would gladly have Quake erased with 100% certainty just to have a healthy sex life with my girlfriend.
i repeat my assertion


 
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Flee, imagine if every time you had sex there was a 1 in 100 chance the Quake would be erased from history
More like "if a 100 people had frequent sex for a year, 1 one of them would have Quake erased for them at the end". If you'd go by people having sex twice a week, that'd be one unlucky fuck out of 10,000 - with the possibility of lowering that further by doings things like pulling out or being aware of when the woman is most fertile. I'll take those odds.
then you're a silly person
For having a single video game erased for me? Verb, I would gladly have Quake erased with 100% certainty just to have a healthy sex life with my girlfriend.
i repeat my assertion
Lol. Don't ever change.


 
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Flee imagine if every time you had sex there was a 1 in 100 chance that mayonaise would cease to exist
Fuck mayonese, I already have other white stuff


 
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Flee imagine if every time you had sex there was a 1 in 100 chance that mayonaise would cease to exist
Celibacy here I come.


 
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Tfw pull out method has worked for me going on ten years.

No one cares about your sad sexual exploits with women well beyond their expiration date.


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Guys, just get on male birth control, have a vasectomy, wear a condom, and pull out and finish yourself off. Problem solved.


 
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Older women who lack the youthful beauty they had before their "Best before" date, usually mid-20s.


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No one cares about your sad sexual exploits with women well beyond their expiration date.

Confused by that second bit

Older women who lack the youthful beauty they had before their "Best before" date, usually mid-20s.

You think I was banging thirty year olds when I was 15?


 
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Tfw pull out method has worked for me going on ten years.

No one cares about your sad sexual exploits with women well beyond their expiration date.

Confused by that second bit

Older women who lack the youthful beauty they had before their "Best before" date, usually mid-20s.

You think I was banging thirty year olds when I was 15?

No, but that's what it's amounted to in recent years. From what I can tell, anyway.


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No one cares about your sad sexual exploits with women well beyond their expiration date.

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Older women who lack the youthful beauty they had before their "Best before" date, usually mid-20s.

You think I was banging thirty year olds when I was 15?

No, but that's what it's amounted to in recent years. From what I can tell, anyway.

My last ex was 23 when we broke up


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